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Title: Legal Question
Post by: midnight Target on July 05, 2005, 10:54:39 PM
Settle a bet...

Can a person receive a citation for running out of gas on the freeway? (Specifically in California).
Title: Legal Question
Post by: AdmRose on July 05, 2005, 11:01:52 PM
If they abandon their car for a long period, yes.

Otherwise I don't believe so.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: SaburoS on July 05, 2005, 11:59:43 PM
Without looking up the law, I think so, but it just isn't enforced that much.

In California, name the two things that can come from your vehicle and not be considered litter?
Title: Legal Question
Post by: Chairboy on July 06, 2005, 12:05:31 AM
Sure, especially if it causes a traffic obstruction.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: Leslie on July 06, 2005, 12:08:23 AM
Against my better judgement MT, The question burns.  Why do you ask?:)




Les
Title: Legal Question
Post by: airbumba on July 06, 2005, 12:19:40 AM
Up here, you need functioning four ways, and warning devices set 3 car lengths back. Flares, pylons or them triangles.

Oh, and that's only if it's not a contracted tow zone. Then u need none of the above, the towing bill will certainly remind u to top up.

But the only time I've seen tickets issued, up here anyway, is when u pass certain checkpoints where minimum fuel, chains, communication devices, etc, are mandated. Usually in the far north. That's probably due to the cost of retrieving your frozen carcass when u ran outta gas.

mmm, frozen carcass....what I wouldn't give for a taste of winter right now.....just a taste......mmm..
Title: Re: Legal Question
Post by: Gunslinger on July 06, 2005, 12:39:59 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Settle a bet...

Can a person receive a citation for running out of gas on the freeway? (Specifically in California).


Specifically in florida and specifically on 3 mile bridge going to gulf breeze pensacola it is Illegal to run out of gas or stop to fix a flat tire.

I know that might not settle your  bet or it might even create a few side bets but hey that's that.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: Leslie on July 06, 2005, 12:53:35 AM
That bridge brings back memories for me Guns.  Been there a few times in my life.  It's a beautiful place.

Never drove out on the old bridge though (fishing pier) cause I knew I wouldn't be able to turn around in the tank of a car I drove back rhen.

Always wondered if the fishing was good there.




Les
Title: Legal Question
Post by: Flatbar on July 06, 2005, 03:44:22 AM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Without looking up the law, I think so, but it just isn't enforced that much.

In California, name the two things that can come from your vehicle and not be considered litter?


Clear water and windshield washer fluid?
Title: Legal Question
Post by: SaburoS on July 06, 2005, 04:21:36 AM
1/2 right. Learned this in traffic school a long time ago. No one guessed it in class.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: Chairboy on July 06, 2005, 09:13:17 AM
Unwrapped food, eg, an apple core?
Title: Legal Question
Post by: jEEZY on July 06, 2005, 09:51:37 AM
Running out of gas, itself, is not a violation of the vehicle code (yet). However, be aware that:

§ 22456.  Ice cream vending truck safety

   (a) This section shall be known and may be cited as the Destiny Nicole Stout Memorial Act.
 
   (b) The Legislature finds and declares that motor vehicles engaged in vending ice cream and similar food items in residential neighborhoods can increase the danger to children, and it is necessary that these vehicles are clearly seen and noticed by motorists and pedestrians to protect public safety.
 
   (c) As used in this section, the term "ice cream truck" means a motor vehicle engaged in the curbside vending or sale of frozen or refrigerated desserts, confections, or novelties commonly known as ice cream, or prepackaged candies, prepackaged snack foods, or soft drinks, primarily intended for the sale to children under 12 years of age.
 
   (d) Any ice cream truck shall be equipped at all times, while engaged in vending in a residential area, with signs mounted on both the front and the rear and clearly legible from a distance of 100 feet under daylight conditions, incorporating the words "WARNING" and "CHILDREN CROSSING." Each sign shall be at least 12 inches high by 48 inches wide, with letters of a dark color and at least four inches in height, a one-inch wide solid border, and a sharply contrasting background.
 
   (e) A person may not vend from an ice cream truck that is stopped, parked, or standing on any public street, alley, or highway under any of the following conditions:
 
   (1) On a street, alley, or highway with a posted speed limit greater than 25 miles per hour.
 
   (2) If the street, alley, or highway is within 100 feet of an intersection with an opposing highway that has a posted speed limit greater than 25 miles per hour.
 
   (3) If the vendor does not have an unobstructed view for 200 feet in both directions along the highway and of any traffic on the highway.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: SaburoS on July 06, 2005, 12:23:07 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Unwrapped food, eg, an apple core?


Nope, classified as litter.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: JB73 on July 06, 2005, 12:27:09 PM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Without looking up the law, I think so, but it just isn't enforced that much.

In California, name the two things that can come from your vehicle and not be considered litter?
exhaust, and windsheild washer fluid?
Title: Legal Question
Post by: myelo on July 06, 2005, 12:43:31 PM
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Originally posted by Leslie
That bridge brings back memories for me Guns.  


Me too. I lived there in the late 1980s when some idiot barge driver crashed a barge into it and closed it for 6 months or so. Added almost 1 hour to the commute for some people.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: Urchin on July 06, 2005, 02:14:24 PM
I caught the ugliest little fish ever fishing off the pier there.  I have no idea what it was... it kind of looked like the fish equivlent of the dogs who look like they chase the parked cars.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: GreenCloud on July 06, 2005, 04:02:42 PM
chicken feathers
Title: Legal Question
Post by: AWMac on July 06, 2005, 04:19:30 PM
Spit and windshield washer fluid.
:D
Title: Legal Question
Post by: midnight Target on July 06, 2005, 04:24:33 PM
Hello!!!!!!... isn't hijacking verbotten???
Title: Legal Question
Post by: indy007 on July 06, 2005, 04:37:25 PM
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Originally posted by myelo
Me too. I lived there in the late 1980s when some idiot barge driver crashed a barge into it and closed it for 6 months or so. Added almost 1 hour to the commute for some people.


is this the bridge they replaced with the uh.. Sunshine Skyway? That's a cool looking bridge. Was neat to drive on it when it was first finished.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on July 06, 2005, 04:42:00 PM
(http://mahopa.de/bilder/lustige-forenbilder/thread-hijack.jpg)
Title: Legal Question
Post by: kevykev56 on July 06, 2005, 06:55:35 PM
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Originally posted by Leslie


Never drove out on the old bridge though (fishing pier) cause I knew I wouldn't be able to turn around in the tank of a car I drove back rhen.

Always wondered if the fishing was good there.




Les



Old bridge(Fishing Pier) is gone, Hurricane Ivan took it.


Now on with your regularly scheduled program.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: vorticon on July 06, 2005, 07:44:31 PM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
In California, name the two things that can come from your vehicle and not be considered litter?


washer fluid, and the driver.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: SaburoS on July 07, 2005, 12:27:19 AM
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Originally posted by JB73
exhaust, and windsheild washer fluid?


No and no.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: SaburoS on July 07, 2005, 12:29:51 AM
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
chicken feathers


Dingdingding!! Give the man a cupie doll!

Water and chicken feathers are not classified as litter if they come from a vehicle.
Water is the no-brainer, but guessing the chicken feathers ruling was to protect the chicken farmers transporting their birds.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: Furious on July 07, 2005, 12:03:50 PM
MT, I am sorry that your thread got hijacked, so I will just go ahead and answer your original question.

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Can a person receive a citation for running out of gas on the freeway? (Specifically in California).

I don't know.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: myelo on July 07, 2005, 03:34:54 PM
MT, since I was involved in the hijacking I will also apologize and answer your question.

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Can a person receive a citation for running out of gas on the freeway? (Specifically in California).


They should.

Because it's dangerous and anyone who can't read a gas gauge shouldn't be driving in the first place.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: midnight Target on July 07, 2005, 04:24:51 PM
So how about them Cubs huh?
Title: Legal Question
Post by: Ripsnort on July 07, 2005, 07:21:55 PM
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Originally posted by Leslie
Against my better judgement MT, The question burns.  Why do you ask?:)




Les


He hates to be wrong.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: Maverick on July 07, 2005, 07:42:23 PM
MT,

Simple solution to your original question. I'm sure the CHP has an information line. Why don't you call them and ask those who enforce the laws on the highways in California instead of the AH BBS?
Title: Legal Question
Post by: Ripsnort on July 07, 2005, 07:48:03 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
MT,

Simple solution to your original question. I'm sure the CHP has an information line. Why don't you call them and ask those who enforce the laws on the highways in California instead of the AH BBS?


A google search worked for me.
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There is no California law about running out of fuel on the roads. There is a law against abandoning a vehicle on the roadway and laws against pedestrian traffic on the freeways. In the San Francisco Bay area there is even a free service called RoadOne operated by the California Department of Transportation for people who run out of fuel or have problems on the freeways, due to these vehicles posing a hazard and obstruction to traffic.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: midnight Target on July 07, 2005, 08:10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
A google search worked for me.


And Ripsnort worked for me....

Thanks.
Title: Legal Question
Post by: SOB on July 07, 2005, 08:35:29 PM
LOL...you ever get the feeling you're being used? :D
Title: Legal Question
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on July 08, 2005, 01:14:53 AM
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Originally posted by myelo
MT, since I was involved in the hijacking I will also apologize and answer your question.

 

They should.

Because it's dangerous and anyone who can't read a gas gauge shouldn't be driving in the first place.


Oh come on!  E is for EXCITEMENT!