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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JB73 on July 06, 2005, 09:43:25 AM
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article (http://www.themilwaukeechannel.com/health/4684906/detail.html)
The ban has some exceptions -- private homes, outdoor patios and tobacco stores -- but it would prohibit smoking areas that are right next to public entrances.
There would be penalties for smoking in public places.
they basically want to ban smoking in any building other than your home, AND you can not smoke outside those buildings.
this nazi anit-smoking stuff is reaching prohibition levels. it is sickening.
as a local columinist said today in the paper:
if we're ever going to be a world-class city, we can't have people running around sucking on burning leaves.
more:
And after all outdoor smoking is abolished, we need to look to the future and outlaw smoking in outer space, too, even though blowing smoke rings in zero gravity could be kinda cool.
Anyone smoking at home should be prohibited from having company over. Under the "Addicts in Attics" program, cash rewards could be offered to people who turn in their neighbors for smoking in secret.
The final frontier will be the vehicles driven by smokers. I'm thinking if we frame it as a distraction issue like cell phones that we can ban smoking in personal vehicles. Or we'll require anyone who wants to smoke in the car to keep their windows up at all times and to dispose of the butts at a toxic waste site.
Oh, and kissing any smoker should be illegal because of its storied comparison to licking an ashtray.
that pretty much sums up my view on that.
where / when does it stop???
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yanno whats just as scary?
Go back to that sight and look at the poll results.
Think those folk been drinking too much of their own product
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Originally posted by JB73
[Bwhere / when does it stop??? [/B]
It doesn't. You will be required by law to exercise, eat right, and get enough sleep.
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Originally posted by Sandman
It doesn't. You will be required by law to exercise, eat right, and get enough sleep.
Yes and Big Brother will be watching from the camera right abouve the TV screen.
This will be a reality with the current politics of the Republicans and Democrats of our day.
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Yes and Big Brother will be watching from the camera right abouve the TV screen.
This will be a reality with the current politics of the Republicans and Democrats of our day.
You're a bit tense ASTAC. You collecting guns and camping gear for the move to Montana?
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Originally posted by Sandman
You're a bit tense ASTAC. You collecting guns and camping gear for the move to Montana?
No, but I feel that people need to wake up to what is happening to our country, and take it back. Just about every bill passed these days is slowly chipping away at our personal liberties.
Maybe shake things up by electing some "3rd party" canidates. Wake up the two old parties and make them bend to our will as they should have been doing all along.
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Filthy smokers! ;) ;)
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See Rule #4
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Bwahahah filthy smokers... too right!
I wonder how the smokers that hang around our building entrance creating billowing clouds of crap of I have to walk through would feel if on a nice still morning I wandered out and dropped one of my stinkier farts amongst them?
Smokers have had it coming for decades... their rudeness and inconsiderate behaviour is why this is being done.
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Originally posted by Sandman
You're a bit tense ASTAC. You collecting guns and camping gear for the move to Montana?
HEY, HEY, HEY, you say that like its almost bad. :D
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Originally posted by Vulcan
I wonder how the smokers that hang around our building entrance creating billowing clouds
Billowing clouds? Outside? ..yea right:rolleyes:
I have never seen "Billowing clouds" of smoke from smokers outside or anything even remotely close to it
and that would include a group of about 10 cigar smokers I used to work with that all lit up the same time after lunch.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
I wonder how the smokers that hang around our building entrance creating billowing clouds
Billowing clouds? Outside? ..yea right:rolleyes:
I have never seen "Billowing clouds" of smoke from smokers outside or anything even remotely close to it
and that would include a group of about 10 cigar smokers I used to work with that all lit up the same time after lunch.
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Originally posted by JB73
where / when does it stop???
Why you so suprised? smoking cose cancer for those who are around too.
You are not allowed to beat your kids only beucose they are your own. LAw enforce you to not beat them to death.
We have law to prewent speeding to protect our citizens, we ban guns to protect them against other crazy people who like to use them for crime.
Sex acts on the street is banned too, to protect innocent from this liberal influenze
and you agree to this law
Why its should be no law which prewent killing non-smokers by smokers?
just keep your addiction at your home, as you keep your sexual activity, your transexual personality, your perversions.
Kill yourself not others, who cant defend yourself.
Also there should be more restricted law, at list smokers act against our own citizens, by them we have to spend more money for health insurance.
And that hit financial all citizens.
Not mention, cancer can kill valuable citizens, and thats crime not only aganst people but threat to national security.
if you dont like it, maybe you have to move to europe?
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Bwahahah filthy smokers... too right!
I wonder how the smokers that hang around our building entrance creating billowing clouds of crap of I have to walk through would feel if on a nice still morning I wandered out and dropped one of my stinkier farts amongst them?
Smokers have had it coming for decades... their rudeness and inconsiderate behaviour is why this is being done.
Someone needs Xanax this AM.
Karaya
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Originally posted by ramzey
if you dont like it, maybe you have to move to europe?
why europe?
a few month ago our company put a full smoking ban, smoking is now only allowed
out of the building at a special place made for smoker.
I'm honest, i'm REALLY happy now as a non smoker. No more blue stinking smoke at work!
R
Gh0stFT
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lol damn cigazis!!
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Bwahahah filthy smokers... too right!
I wonder how the smokers that hang around our building entrance creating billowing clouds of crap of I have to walk through would feel if on a nice still morning I wandered out and dropped one of my stinkier farts amongst them?
Smokers have had it coming for decades... their rudeness and inconsiderate behaviour is why this is being done.
Hear hear:)
Turn about is fair play...
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
why europe?
a few month ago our company put a full smoking ban, smoking is now only allowed
out of the building at a special place made for smoker.
I'm honest, i'm REALLY happy now as a non smoker. No more blue stinking smoke at work!
R
Gh0stFT
See now that seems fair to me.
I can understand how a company might not want smoking inside their building. or for that matter not want their employees crowding up their entrances.
So they did the smart thing and provided a place that smokers can go.
what I dont like is when government tells a company it cant allow smoking anymore. I know here in jersey there is a push on to ban smoking from all public places including Bars and resturants.
Now there are already a bunch of resturants who on their own do not allow smoking. and there are others who offer a smoke free section.
Why we need or want government interference here is beyond me. Seems to me THAT should be up to the buisness owner.
He can allow smoking or not. his buisness his choice.
And emplyees can choose to work there or not. their choice
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Sounds like you have the same problem there as we do here. Its just that here its Eurocrats in Brussels telling us what to do.
Its gone too far I agree.
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Please refrain from breathing while I smoke.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
See now that seems fair to me.
I can understand how a company might not want smoking inside their building. or for that matter not want their employees crowding up their entrances.
So they did the smart thing and provided a place that smokers can go.
what I dont like is when government tells a company it cant allow smoking anymore. I know here in jersey there is a push on to ban smoking from all public places including Bars and resturants.
Now there are already a bunch of resturants who on their own do not allow smoking. and there are others who offer a smoke free section.
Why we need or want government interference here is beyond me. Seems to me THAT should be up to the buisness owner.
He can allow smoking or not. his buisness his choice.
And emplyees can choose to work there or not. their choice
Many a time I have come across smokers who ignore "smoke free" areas, in so far as to move signs, get ash trays, etc.
Smokers had it coming, no sympathy here, you're a minority now, like all minorities you need to go through a period of persecution :)
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Many a time I have come across smokers who ignore "smoke free" areas, in so far as to move signs, get ash trays, etc.
Smokers had it coming, no sympathy here, you're a minority now, like all minorities you need to go through a period of persecution :)
Well then there should be penalties for those that do.
Just as many times I see people parking in spots marked for handicapped that arent handicapped. There are penalties for that also.
Dont expect your sympothy just as I give no sympothy to those that come to a smoking allowed area and complain about the smoke.
If you dont like smoke or where smoking is allowed dont go there.
And if you do insist on going there. Dont complain about my arrogence. You chose to go there.
As for smoking outside. You probably stand a far greater chance of getting sick from the air pollution caused by that megasized SUV you may drive or the industrial plant you may work at then if I lit up an entire pack and smoked them all at the same time.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Many a time I have come across smokers who ignore "smoke free" areas, in so far as to move signs, get ash trays, etc.
Smokers had it coming, no sympathy here, you're a minority now, like all minorities you need to go through a period of persecution :)
it's attitudes like that which make me want to come to your house and chain smoke a pack in your living room, putting the butts out on the carpet. ; P
as a smoker, i do not recall intentionally smoking in a "smoke free" area, nor have i gone to "get an ashtray"
YET
i have encountered rude, snooty, complaining non-smokers who have gone as far as to try and make me put out a cig at a public park in the open, because their child was within 100 feet of me. the jerk even got in my face, all red-faced, veins a poppin, telling me i am "killing his daughter" who is so far away, i can not make out what weird little animal was on her dress.
it goes both way's Vulcan. you wanna say "all smokers are jerks, and deserve it" then i say all non-smokers are liberal crybabies, and are so selfish, they want the whole world to change to the way they think.
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Originally posted by JB73
i have encountered rude, snooty, complaining non-smokers who have gone as far as to try and make me put out a cig at a public park in the open, because their child was within 100 feet of me. the jerk even got in my face, all red-faced, veins a poppin, telling me i am "killing his daughter" who is so far away, i can not make out what weird little animal was on her dress.
Had a similar situation once.
Guy comes to where Im at minding my own buisness and starts getting in my face telling me to put it out in a smoking allowed area.
Told him if he didnt get out of my face I was gonna put it out on his forehead.
Normally I'll try my best to accomodate anyone when its reasonable and if they are being reasonable.
But the best way to assure that not only wont I accomadate you but will outright refuse in no uncertain terms and often end up doing it more just to piss you off is to get in my face about something.
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Originally posted by Sandman
You're a bit tense ASTAC. You collecting guns and camping gear for the move to Montana?
heeeey
that survey that was posted here awhile back suggested that one of the best states for me to move to was.... Montana.
wonder were that survey went.. would be nice to retake the test and see were i landed today
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Do you drive a car? Then shut the hell up about cigarette smokers, you put 1000 times more nasty crap it the atmosphere than even the most dedicated smoker ever will.
Most anti-smokers are NOT truly interested in creating a better environment, they simply want to be right, to be better than you.
If a vegan, non-smoking, non-car driving, holistic, child of the earth type asks me to not smoke around them, fine, they walk the talk and I can respect that. The rest of you can blow it out your rear.
g00b
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Used to smoke, quit and am glad I did.
Personally I think if you want to smoke, then fine, have at it, but you forfeit you're right to any government healthcare in your old age for smoking related illness.
As for banning smoking, I think that is bogus too. People have the right to smoke all they want, but the counter is people have the right to designate their restaurants and the like as non smoking.
Personally, I would be happy if they would just keep the damn smokers away from the exit / entrance to the airport so when I exit the building I do not have too run the 100 yd gauntlet of smokers.
As for people threatening smokers in areas not designated as non smoking, I say enjoy putting the butt out on their forehead.
:D
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i dont care what people smoke in the privacy of their own homes or back yards.
i dont like walking through a cloud of stink when i wanna eat out tho... i used to be one of the stinkers and even then i didnt much care for people doing it in my face in when i ate.
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Most smokers are vile, lazy, smelly jerks. (most)
I love liberal, green smokers tossing their buts everywhere they go. Like their litter is ok.
Were I work the building manager paid to have the whole area around the building cleaned because the dirt ball smokers tossed their buts on the ground instead of the company supplied ashtrays.
Two days later he had to send out an email that in effect said "SMOKERS, go out and clean your buts, do it today, by the end of the work day, I already cleaned over 150 buts up, TWO days after we had the area cleaned. If you fail to clean you mess, smoking WILL BE banned on the property."
I got to laugh at the smokers as they cleaned their litter.
Not to mention smokers taking 10, ten minute brakes a day to feed their pathetic addiction.
Still I am against the anti smoking in public places laws. Your outdoors, as long as you don’t litter I don’t care if you smoke. Heck I don’t even care if you do it in a bar or food joint, that should be up to the owner.
I just wish you all didn’t smell(you really do), have bad breath, take to many breaks when their is work to do and litter! :D
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Two days later he had to send out an email that in effect said "SMOKERS, go out and clean your buts, do it today, by the end of the work day, I already cleaned over 150 buts up, TWO days after we had the area cleaned. If you fail to clean you mess, smoking WILL BE banned on the property."
I got to laugh at the smokers as they cleaned their litter.
Not to mention smokers taking 10, ten minute brakes a day to feed their pathetic addiction.
LOL similar happened here, and our company is watching this
daily 10 x ten minutes brake carefully. Thats is lets say aprox
1/2 to 1 hours less work on a daily base. That makes how much
in a wekk? month? year? how fair is that to a non smoker?
someone said:"And emplyees can choose to work there or not. their choice"
how true, their choice to still have the job or to be the ultimate free smoker without a job hehe ;)
i dont knwo why i found discussions about smoking thats funny,
maybe because i'm a former smoker and today such a discussion
or the new price for a zig-pack doesent affect me at all. Its funn
to read & watch smokers addicted to this blue smoke they can't escape ;)
Gh0stFT
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I was a manager at a call center at the time, and it sucked having to go outside and round up the lazy bastages to come in and take calls.
Durring the xmas season with long hold times and unhappy people, they were not fazed. 40 minute hold, all the smokers had to go on more then their alloted breaks.
Their numbers were always lower too.
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Originally posted by g00b
Do you drive a car? Then shut the hell up about cigarette smokers, you put 1000 times more nasty crap it the atmosphere than even the most dedicated smoker ever will.
Most anti-smokers are NOT truly interested in creating a better environment, they simply want to be right, to be better than you.
If a vegan, non-smoking, non-car driving, holistic, child of the earth type asks me to not smoke around them, fine, they walk the talk and I can respect that. The rest of you can blow it out your rear.
g00b
Right that does I'm coming to FART in your house goob!