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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CyranoAH on July 07, 2005, 04:32:51 AM
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Everyone ok? Londoners please check in.
This smells real bad :(
Daniel
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Hrmmm multiple explosions in underground...london buses...
Chaos as blasts rock London tube (http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200507/s1409463.htm)
Tronsky
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Oh crap!
Everyone here ok? ?
Just saw the news now!
And the day after London got the olympics.. wonder if there is a connection :(
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BBC world reporter just said 5 or 6 explosions around London and maybe even a traincrash at Kings Cross.
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Al-Queda nutters without a doubt. Not the IRA's style.
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:(
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My condolences. :(
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:( some accounts (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4659237.stm)
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very sad to hear this
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I wonder if any coincidence with Olympic announcement?
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I see NBC gear being deployed, one of the stations has a "tent" sealing it, dirty bombs?
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A Cowardly Act Beyond Doubt
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NBC is probably an SOP in these circumstances.
This a G8 disruptor. Communique is to be issued today.
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just been watchin news. police believe there have been 7 blasts, over 20 dead, 100's of severely injured. i only just got up, so im ok. bbc have a source in al queda that says this is almost 100% certainly an al queda attack.
theyve shut ALL transport in london down, including all the national rail services around the city. apparently a very cowardly cell, who couldnt even stick the thought of suicide bombing, and just set timers. i hope they humiliate the people responsible, prison isnt enough for what theyve done.
as dowding said, this is obviously meant to disrupt the g8, and possibly to do with the london olympics
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humiliate? who the **** cares about humiliation?
Let's just get rid of these ****ers and move on.
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I have just heard that it is pretty chaotic in London right now. My father and step mother are supposed to be on their way back home today on a flight from London. They aren't bus or subway travellers usually but I am a bit nervous.
We have a number of directors arriving tonight from London on the same flight as my parents...I have already received notice of one cancellation. I'm sure there will be more to come.
Hope everyone in London from these boards are okay.
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I'm in London, booked today as a holiday about a month ago so first I heard was work phoning to see if I was ok.
Whoever did this are worse than animals.
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Originally posted by Pooface
just been watchin news. police believe there have been 7 blasts, over 20 dead, 100's of severely injured. i only just got up, so im ok. bbc have a source in al queda that says this is almost 100% certainly an al queda attack.
theyve shut ALL transport in london down, including all the national rail services around the city. apparently a very cowardly cell, who couldnt even stick the thought of suicide bombing, and just set timers. i hope they humiliate the people responsible, prison isnt enough for what theyve done.
as dowding said, this is obviously meant to disrupt the g8, and possibly to do with the london olympics
From what ive seen just now, they say that it was suicide bombings.. atleast some of them were.
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Heart felt prayers to you Londoners today.
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I didn't watch the news before I came to work and I just now read about this.
Our best thoughts go out to the people of Great Britton.
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"The Secret Organization of al Quaeda in Europe" has claimed responsibility. No statements on the validity of those claims have been issued.
I woke up to this news this morning, and I'm deeply saddened for our friends in Great Britain. Our British friends will be on my mind today.
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Originally posted by thrila
:( some accounts (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/4659237.stm)
Thank God you're ok, thrila. Condolences to those innocents that were hurt, lost, and made afraid.
These bastards must be destroyed.
shubie
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Horrible news. :(
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"The Secret Organization of al Quaeda in Europe" announced: "London is burning from North to South and from East to West, and cowering in fear and terror".
I guess the bastards forgot what happened the last time "London is burning" happened. I think they seriously underestimate the courage and resolve of the British people.
They claim this was a "military" action.:rolleyes: Yeah, against unarmed civilians. I think everyone knows who is really cowering in fear and terror. It sure as Hell ain't the British, that's for damned sure.
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Sorry guys.
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Karaya
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
I guess the bastards forgot what happened the last time "London is burning" happened. I think they seriously underestimate the courage and resolve of the British people.
An independent part of Ireland?
Tho, they at least usually made a call first.
Well.. these Al Qaedas surely aren't going to achieve anything by blowing up innocent people.
It's funny how the religious terror leaders never offer themselves to be martyres, because they do usually negotiate to save their heads.
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Thoughts and prayers to all in London.
Did you guys hear what the mayor of London had to say about this? That guy just gave the terrorists a good scolding.
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Originally posted by Fishu
An independent part of Ireland?
Tho, they at least usually made a call first.
Well.. these Al Qaedas surely aren't going to achieve anything by blowing up innocent people.
It's funny how the religious terror leaders never offer themselves to be martyres, because they do usually negotiate to save their heads.
Yeah the IRA 'won'. What bollocks. After their splinter cell managed to alienate even the most steadfast by blowing up children and mothers in Omagh they seemed to think talking was the best option, or get lynched on the streets.
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Originally posted by Fishu
An independent part of Ireland?
Tho, they at least usually made a call first.
Well.. these Al Qaedas surely aren't going to achieve anything by blowing up innocent people.
It's funny how the religious terror leaders never offer themselves to be martyres, because they do usually negotiate to save their heads.
I think that VH was referring to the London Blitz.
My heart goes to the victims and their families and friends today.
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My thoughts to those caught up in this act of cowardice.:(
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My thoughts and prayers are will the citizens of London and all of Great Britian.
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Condolences.
And much in the way we reacted here to 9/11 I would like to offer my support to you all over there.
God save our gracious Queen!
Long live our noble Queen!
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,
God save the Queen
Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour,
Long may she reign.
May she defend our laws,
And give us ever cause,
To sing with heart and voice,
God save the Queen.
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Prayers to all in London.
So sad and cowardly.
:(
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I doubt this was timed to coincide with the Olympic announcement. The planning must have started long before the announcement, and there was no way of knowing which city would be named. This is all about the G8.
Prayers go out to our British friends and allies.
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Moscow underground (subway) already took special security measures because of London bombings...
My condolences to British people.
I hope that you'll be able to catch the bastards, not like our loosers after Moscow underground bombings last years.
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yup same here guys condolences to our friends accros the pond. :(
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My thoughts to the londeners.
Screw them low scum they will never win coz they have to kill us all.
They call them self a religious army
But them totally tubular cowards never show em self.
Heroic ? cowards they are like a grown up man beating up a blind man with no arms and legs. Nothing more they hit people who are not soldiers who have nothing to do with them Are not aware and not able to defend.
terrorist definitly have the lowest form of violence.
And they think it is heroic.
:( :( :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Rule #7.
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Really sad news indeed... :(
Only "good thing" is that it didnt happen yesterday during the celebration of the olympics...
But its not related to that... its the fact that the G8 meeting is beeing held in Edinburg that has drawn the attention of these arseh0les to london at this time...
Hope everyone in london is ok..
Tex
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I dont think AlQaeda gives a damn about the G8 summit... That's more the sort of thing leftist socialist types would get worried about.
This was pure and simple good old islamic freedom fighting...
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I dont think AlQaeda gives a damn about the G8 summit... That's more the sort of thing leftist socialist types would get worried about.
This was pure and simple good old islamic freedom fighting...
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They're trying to pit us against one another(in regards to Afghanistan and Iraq). It won't work.
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The more I think about it the more PO'ed Im getting.
These people want a Holy war. I think we should give it to them.
We know what these people are about and we know where they come from.
I think the world needs to stop using MA tactics of defending our own land and take the fight to theirs once and for all before they manage to get their hands on some real weapons.
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"I can tell you now that you will fail in your long-term objectives to destroy our free society."
"In the days that follow, look at our airports and seaports, and even after your cowardly attacks, you will still see people from around the world coming to London to achieve their dreams."
This from Ken Livingstone Mayor of London
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Well I wonder if the *******s realize this has all been tried before -
1) Germans tried bombing London - didn't work.
2) IRA bombed London for many years - didn't work.
All it did was piss us Brits off. These guys better sleep with BOTH eyes open, because someone will come along and pop them.
Bob149 - He missed one part out, "Watch your backs".
Time to let the SAS loose again.
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I think that the terrorists have made a grave error..
I kid about the brits a lot but I have no worries about their courage and resolve. I have no doubt that they will react as we would react here in the states.
lazs
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My thoughts are with those in London.
It wasn't the first time London has been hit and it sure won't be the last.
I understand that they're still clearing Kings Cross tube tunnels with rumours of fatalities in the tunnels.
:(
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and my heartfealt thoughts go out to everyone in London, and all of GB
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Terrorists dont care about the content of the G8 meeting.. but terrorists DO care about media exposiur...
The G8 has drawn the attention of almost all of the worlds medias to the UK and all the leaders are in the UK. Its right next door to where all the leaders are, its damn close, and its in a media exposed area of the world. So yeah the terrorist would care about the G8 in that aspect.
Though UK beeing the "next target" really isnt a suprice given the political history the UK has over the last 10s of years, beeing brothers in arms with the US.
Tex.
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My best wishes to everyone there and elsewhere who has been affected by this.
Justice will be served, these guys will be caught.
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Originally posted by lazs2
I think that the terrorists have made a grave error..
I kid about the brits a lot but I have no worries about their courage and resolve. I have no doubt that they will react as we would react here in the states.
lazs
Agreed,
Londoners in particular much to their credit have shown a certain..knack for lack of a better word of taking this sort of thing in stride.
From the blitz in WWII to the IRA and other assorted terror attacks since.
These people have alot of heart
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Condolences to the families of those killed by these barbarians. Best wishes for the full and quick recovery of those injured.
I fully agree that this is a G8 related situation. The Olympic announcement couldn't be the target as no one knew that London would get the nod on it and France was the front runner.
This IS a wakeup call regarding the Olympics however. They have shown the ability to set up multiple attacks in a Western Country and do not think they will ignore the Olympics. Where else will you get the collection of world population but the Olympics.
Unfortunately you cannot simply carpet bomb the muslim countries as that would place us at the same level as they. There is another situation as they ones most likely to commit attrocities like this would simply scurry away from the front like cockroaches and go somewhere else to hide unitl safe to come out.
Until the muslim clerics come out in a united denunciation of this type of barbarism as an afront to islam, the terrorists will continue to claim support of the "faithful" and of course God as their justification for this type of action.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
These people want a Holy war. I think we should give it to them.
We know what these people are about and we know where they come from.
In general I do agree with you... but be carefull about your definition of "These people"... its not the people... its an extreamly small group of people...
Generalization is one of the worst mistakes one can make...
Tex
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Bad news indeed. Thank god my wife moved out of there a year a go and came to lovely Birmingham. Got a few freinds down there who we haven't heard from yet so a bit worried.
Somehow I don't think the bombers have made a wise move. We are a bit stubborn us Brits and have put up with this kind of thing many times before. One thing we do have a fair bit of experience with is fighting terrorists!
Sad day.:(
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Originally posted by Maverick
Unfortunately you cannot simply carpet bomb the muslim countries as that would place us at the same level as they.
This has another aspect to it.
The terrorists dont have the support of the population in the mid east. Though if their countries get agressed by western world countries then the public opinion against the western world counties will get worse, this in turn rendering more support for millitant groups.
The single worst thing that can happen is terrorist groups or organizations tied to terrorist groups gaining support amongst the population.
Tex
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
My thoughts to the londeners.
Screw them low scum they will never win coz they have to kill us all.
They call them self a religious army
But them totally tubular cowards never show em self.
Heroic ? cowards they are like a grown up man beating up a blind man with no arms and legs. Nothing more they hit people who are not soldiers who have nothing to do with them Are not aware and not able to defend.
terrorist definitly have the lowest form of violence.
And they think it is heroic.
:( :( :mad: :mad: :mad:
Damn, BUG is sounding like a real pissed off redneck. Take that as a serious compliment BUG, that is how it is intended.
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If people and politics really want to get rid of terrorists then they have to go down to roots of terrorism; what makes teenagers to join terrorist groups and blow up busses etc.
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Agreed but right now I'm worried about our freinds. Perhaps a debate on the whys hows and wherefores should wait a little?
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I think its due to being spineless bananas, but then again it could be some psychotic mental condition.
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Originally posted by TexMurphy
In general I do agree with you... but be carefull about your definition of "These people"... its not the people... its an extreamly small group of people...
Generalization is one of the worst mistakes one can make...
Tex
I used to agree with that line of thinking but in not generalising these people and in picking and choosing has gotten us this so far.
Im bout ready to say screw it and as the saying goes "let god sort em out"
I've bout had it with all the P-footing around we do with these people. Time for them to prove to US they want to live in peace and kill or turn over the extremists or they all pay the consequences.
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Agreed but right now I'm worried about our freinds. Perhaps a debate on the whys hows and wherefores should wait a little?
Ok, Agreed.
Will shelve my feelings on this for the moment
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I think there is little need to worry about the "West" (Blair, Bush, etc) going off on a tear and indiscriminately bombing nations in the Middle East in a "Holy War" in response. The "West" has proven itself better than that.
However, I would imagine both overt and covert operations against "insurgents":rolleyes: and terrorists will likely step up at least a couple of levels.
There will likely be "something to see" like the large scale open operations aimed at "al Queada in Iraq" and their cohorts.
It will be what you DO NOT see that will be what is really stepped up. The SAS and other British units, and US special forces, along with other nations quietly sending their elite forces into mostly covert operations in places you've likely never heard, and may never hear of. You won't hear much about it unless they happen to take out a well known major terrorist asset.
I don't think any of the nations truly united against terror can afford to take this lying down, and I doubt any of them will.
I would not be surprised to see al Queada et al attack soon in the UAE, since the UAE has been hitting them hard. They'll HAVE to hit back soon, and hard, for their own image and gratification.
With the announcement moments ago of the execution of an Egyptian official in Iraq, I look to see the terrorists further damaging support for their "cause" in even the most devout Muslim countries in the Middle East. They have become more and more indiscriminate in who they target, and openly target other Muslims with ever increasing frequency. If they continue, I think any support they have in the general population will shrink in direct proportion to their attacks on Muslims and Arabs.
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Why isn't the top group of AQ making sure this isn't getting out of their hands?
Actions used to be strictly against the US and co., either the increasing number of Arab casualties isn't a problem (which I don't see how it couldn't be), or they're really that dumb or out of touch (not likely either).
Am I missing something? Seems like a big blunder or their part. Singling out the US, and its closest afiliates before moving on to the next is a safer tactic.
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Originally posted by Staga
If people and politics really want to get rid of terrorists then they have to go down to roots of terrorism; what makes teenagers to join terrorist groups and blow up busses etc.
The only reason to try to "understand" these people and seek the "roots of terrorism" is to better learn how to eliminate them from the planet without mercy.
Terrorists are no different than Hitler or any other of his ilk, other than the fact they do not have control of a nation and its assets.
These are not civilized human beings to be "negotiated" with. They do not want to co exist, they want to dominate, and rule with absolute power. They are not sane rational people who want to be understood.
I'll not debate this further in this thread, this thread is dedicated to our British friends who have suffered an attack on their innocent civilian population. I'll no longer participate in the hijacking of this thread, out of respect and support for them. I have friends in Britain that go back to my early days in Air Warrior, my concern right now is their safety and well being.
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Originally posted by Maverick
Unfortunately you cannot simply carpet bomb the muslim countries as that would place us at the same level as they.
Not exactly at the same level. They would be dead.
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See rule #4
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I hope all "our" people from this community are safe.
Our thoughts are with you.
These kind of cowardly acts, I beleive, have the exact reverse of the effect they are seeking. Instead of scaring people into submission, etc, they usualy unite people in their resolve to put an end to those groups responsible.
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Originally posted by SirLoin
See Rule #4
This has to be the STUPIDEST post in the history of this BBS.
Prayers to all Londoners !!!
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sirloin seems to be the current gschulz. :rolleyes:
I would think that today we are all Londoners.
Or at least those that mean anything would be.
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Prayers and well-wishes going out to all Londoners this day.:(
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Originally posted by SirLoin
See Rule #4
Sad, SirLoin....
Meanwhile, in the real world, here is a short quote from the terrorists claiming responsibilty.
"Rejoice, Islamic nation. Rejoice, Arab world. The time has come for vengeance against the Zionist crusader government of Britain in response to the massacres Britain committed in Iraq and Afghanistan," said the statement, which was translated by The Associated Press in Cairo.
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In fact i have some relatives in london im glad they allright.
Yes today im a londoner.
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
In fact i have some relatives in london im glad they allright.
Yes today im a londoner.
Glad to hear your relatives are safe BUG, that's good news to all of us.
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Originally posted by SlapShot
This has to be the STUPIDEST post in the history of this BBS.
Would that it were. One thing we are never short of around here is stupidity. It might be a top ten though.
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Keep focused about what this thread is about. There will be little tolerance for those who wish to use this for any other purpose than what it should be for.
My condolences to the people of London and Great Britain. This act of cowardice is pathetic.
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Terrible, terrible news :(.
My deepest condolences to all British, but most especially to those who've lost people to this unspeakably inhuman act.
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asw
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Londoners!
I am truely sorry about this.
to the terrorsit scum. Worthless animals the whole lot of them.
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The time has come for vengeance against the Zionist crusader government of Britain
So now the Brits are zionists too?!
My condolences to the Londoners.
Bozon
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Rule #4, #7.
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sorry london...
damn terrorists.... :mad: :mad: :mad:
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I'm sure that hitting London will prove to be exactly as winning a strategy now as it has proven to be in the past. "London can take it."
I hope that the British law enforcement and special forces have great success in eliminating those responsible for this act of barbarism.
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If I were in same situation as londoners now, I know exactly what I would do.
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Thanks shubie.
I've been trying to contact some friends in London but most networks are down.
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for those of you who feel that we should understand the terrorists and that we are "creating" them..
I would say that to understand them would not be enough... if they got what they wanted it would be the end of any form of human rights and the killing would get worse not better.
for those who say... it is not all of "them".... I would say... if a terrorist group does these attrocities in the name of a religion then that religion and all of it's people and leaders need to speak with one voice and condem the terrorists... anything else is condoning.... no... willfully supporting, the acts of the terrorists... they are doing the bombing themselves in my opinion and deserve no better than the terrorists that they support.
if the religion and it's people and leaders will not condem these terrorists then the entire religion and all those who practice it need to be wiped off the face of the earth.
lazs
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My heart is heavy this day for Londoners and all the people in the UK.:( Glad you can still keep the chin up. :aok
A radio talk show host received an e-mail from a listener claiming that these bombings, as well as 911, was staged by the secret services of the respective countries.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
It is all well and good that some Moslems condem these terrorist acts but this terrorism will continue as long as the Moslem countries continue to sit on their tushes and don't take action to eliminate these sickos.
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
It is all well and good that some Moslems condem these terrorist acts but this terrorism will continue as long as the Moslem countries continue to sit on their tushes and don't take action to eliminate these sickos.
I have heard that the UAE has been hitting Al Quaeda pretty hard in their country. But obviously places like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan leave much to be desired.
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...if the religion and it's people and leaders will not condem these terrorists then the entire religion and all those who practice it need to be wiped off the face of the earth...
Apply that to Catholicism and there would be no catholics. I cast my mind back to the Catholic priest who was an active member of an IRA cell in the seventies.
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Just heard all my wife and I's freinds Ok and safe though one had a close call on the way to work.
Sadly thats not true for some people tonight who will have lost loved ones or have loved ones in hospital.
Brutality is brutalty and the world is a poorer place for it wherever it comes from.
One thing I do agree with is that it won't work. Someone on here said that the nazis failed and the IRA failed. They were quite right, I don't think these guys will have achieved anything other than to make us dig our heels a little deeper.
Bush and Blair had it right when they drew a comparison between leaders meeting to try and sort out Africa's desperate plight, saving lives and building a better world, and people who's intention is to derail that by maiming and killing innocent people.
( blimey a trip to the docs is in order I agreed with Bush again! )
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Originally posted by lazs2
for those of you who feel that we should understand the terrorists and that we are "creating" them..
I would say that to understand them would not be enough... if they got what they wanted it would be the end of any form of human rights and the killing would get worse not better.
for those who say... it is not all of "them".... I would say... if a terrorist group does these attrocities in the name of a religion then that religion and all of it's people and leaders need to speak with one voice and condem the terrorists... anything else is condoning.... no... willfully supporting, the acts of the terrorists... they are doing the bombing themselves in my opinion and deserve no better than the terrorists that they support.
if the religion and it's people and leaders will not condem these terrorists then the entire religion and all those who practice it need to be wiped off the face of the earth.
lazs
I agree... Also remember what Bush said back in 2001. "You are either with us or against us." I can only state, that other Muslims that say and do nothing about this must be in support of it and should be treated as enemy.
Condolences to all of London. I was there a few times and thought it was a wonderful city. I wish you all a speedy recovery from this tragic event.
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i felt sick when i heard about this whilst at work today.
rang my mate straight away as he lives and works in london,
he was ok thank god as the underground was shut by the time he went to work so he went home.
im shocked and sickend by this gutless attack and my thoughts go out to those caught up in it.
where will it all end:(
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I used to agree with that line of thinking but in not generalising these people and in picking and choosing has gotten us this so far.
Im bout ready to say screw it and as the saying goes "let god sort em out"
I've bout had it with all the P-footing around we do with these people. Time for them to prove to US they want to live in peace and kill or turn over the extremists or they all pay the consequences.
I don't think we have to take the war to them...as Tex said, that will cause even more problems. By far I think the best course of action is making getting into our country harder than getting a doctor's appointment or insurance re-imbursement. The attacks are on our soil--take care of them here. Let them wallow in famine and disease in their own countries...that kills more people than bombs and bullets.
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Originally posted by thrila
Thanks shubie.
I've been trying to contact some friends in London but most networks are down.
Fox News was reporting that most cell phone networks in Greater London are overloaded--mostly by family members trying to reach their loved ones, no doubt. That will go on for several hours.
As time goes on over here, we're finding that the initial news was (as expected in this type of situation) confused and exaggerated. As the London Police Chief said, "The situation is coming under control."
I hope they catch these cowards soon. Maybe a good, old-fashioned trip to the Tower?
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I thought that would be the case before i tried so i sent a text msg rather than constantly ringing.
Luckily the bus exploded outside the British Medical Association Headquarters which was filled with doctors. I've no doubt this has saved many lives.
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Further to my reply to the Anbone heard from the Kraits message, all OK here. I live and work in London but was working at home today, thank god.
The Latest reports I heard (frankly, I turned off the TV a while back) were at least 33 dead, about 44 in a critical condition in hospital, about a couple of hundred being treated for other wounds. These were all just innocent folks going about their daily business.
As others have said, we're used to this kind of thing in the UK, and in London especially (sad to say), so life and business will go on as normal tomorrow. I'll be going in to the office in the morning myself.
Nils illegitimi carborundum (Don't let the bastards grind you down)
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Over 30 people in London died to day at the hands of Al Qaedi terrorists.........
Great Britain will of course resolutely carry on its daily business tomorrow..........
a little sadder and a great deal more determined..............
by comparison
Over 30,000 children died in Africa today due to poverty................
Over 30,000 children will die in Africa tomorrow due to poverty....
and the day after that
and the day after that
and the day after that
and on
and on
and on
and on
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My condolences.
I wonder if Blair (and Bush) might be getting more approval and support now concerning terrorist actions from GBR and France.
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See Rule #4
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
The more I think about it the more PO'ed Im getting.
These people want a Holy war. I think we should give it to them.
We know what these people are about and we know where they come from.
I think the world needs to stop using MA tactics of defending our own land and take the fight to theirs once and for all before they manage to get their hands on some real weapons.
We have taken the fight to them in Iraq, Afganistan, and other places and we are critisized for doing it. By saying "we" I'm including England with the United States. Thats why they were hit today. Our soldiers are out there in plain sight, willing to fight on even terms, and these cowards hide in caves and plan "military" attacks against civilians.
Well we (the US) stood with England in WWI and WWII and we won!! We stand together now and we WILL win this one.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families. Stand strong
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Condolences to those who lost loved ones today. Those of you in the UK, take care of each other and stay safe. May your "rough men" bring doom upon the cowards who did this.
mauser
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Long Live England
I'm stunned by the response of some Air America Listeners to this terrorist act:
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/randirhodes/messageboards/index.php?showtopic=57720&st=0&#entry494943
I hope viewpoints like these are confined to a few on the lunatic fringe...
excerpt: "The Inbreds are already calling Washington Journal calling for us to annihilate "them" I think he meant Iraqi's. Others are calling lamenting how total innocents are being attacked. How can anyone who supports the war say they are innocent? We illegally attack and kill Iraqi's by the Hundred Thousand, and then we are surprised when there are reprisals here or in London ? I guess now Bush's approval ratings will shoot up, more hate will be directed at the muslim religion, investigations into corruption and scandal will stop and once again americans will stick their collectives heads in the sand and do nothing about it. "
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Originally posted by Tilt
Over 30 people in London died to day at the hands of Al Qaedi terrorists.........
Great Britain will of course resolutely carry on its daily business tomorrow..........
a little sadder and a great deal more determined..............
by comparison
Over 30,000 children died in Africa today due to poverty................
Over 30,000 children will die in Africa tomorrow due to poverty....
and the day after that
and the day after that
and the day after that
and on
and on
and on
and on
Tilt, I haven't taken the time to verify your figures concerning the African children dying of hunger everyday, but I get the gist of your statement. But, what, exactly, is yer point? What are you inferring, if anything? Sometimes I'm a little slow, forgive me.
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my cousin Mark Navarre died in a glider accident on sunday down in So Cal..
I loved him..we talked many hours of flying
When soemone dies traumatically Its a real shock. The only comfort I feel is he was doing what he really loved. He was 43
The pain really hurts..I feel very sad...and at the same tiem I feel very angry...I look at poeple..IF they say stmthn crappy to me or act like a jerk..I really want to kik there skull...I dont like this feeling.
I can understand how the families feel out in London..They have had there loved ones stolen form them...Not doing what they loved..but doing what they needed to do to support ther families and loved ones.
I got to Marks funeral on Sat. I havent been to a funeral since my dad died when i was 14. Im not sure how to act
I hope God and there families help them all deal with this
I wasnt going to say anyting about my cosuin on here..because 1) it hurts..2) its personal. But after I see thsi attack in London..Im going thru the same thing..a sudden loss of soemone who loved. I can see the londoners being even more angry then me,...and that sucks
Love your family and friends...Dont take all this life as just another day
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/842_1120759237_marknav.jpg)
http://www.martialartsacademy.org/zr_tour.htm
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My heart goes out to all British citizens, and to Londoners especially. Our prayers are with you.
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Greencloud, my sympathies to you on the tragic and untimely loss of your cousine Mark
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About the events in London today: I have always felt a strong bond, a kinship with the fathers of my countries fathers in England. The English and the Americans are more than cousines, we are family and what you endure, we endure, always have and I hope and believe strongly, always will.
Be strong today and stand fast.
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Glad to hear your relatives are safe BUG, that's good news to all of us.
thanx virgil
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GreenCloud/ BigB...prayers to you and your cousin's family.
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We were all expecting it. It happened.
Time to move on ... business as usual.
Ravs
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dowding.... I was raised a catholic.. why don't you ask me how I feel about terrorist attacks on civilians? I don't know any catholics who condone IRA attacks against civilians.
The head of the catholic church... the pope... said years ago that attacks against civilians was murder.
lazs
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I am sorry Brits.
Glad to know that you guys are gonna stick it out and not pull a Spain. You can always tell a strong country from a weak country when something like this occurs.
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I am a little disturbed by the "30,000 african children died of poverty today" thing tho..
first off... how do you die of poverty?
second... that is like..... 300,000 in 10 days... about a million a month... 12 millon a year... how many children they got over there? they should be running out anytime soon I would think.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
I am a little disturbed by the "30,000 african children died of poverty today" thing tho..
first off... how do you die of poverty?
second... that is like..... 300,000 in 10 days... about a million a month... 12 millon a year... how many children they got over there? they should be running out anytime soon I would think.
lazs
that's what I was thinkin, but......:rolleyes: you know how emotional them liberuls get with their figgers an' all.;)
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Funny thing about children, people can make more.
While us libruls are doing our ciphers we figger on birth rates too.
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this thread is not about Africa...
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I have that same sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that I did on 09/11....
The nihilistic madmen behind this atrocity disgust me beyond words...all I can think of is:
"We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old." WC 06/06/40
Hitler couldn't do it, the IRA couldn't, I trust these fanatics won't be able to break your will either.
Vaya Con Dios, Mi Amigos
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Originally posted by midnight Target
While us libruls are doing our ciphers we figger on birth rates too.
Sooo....you 'uns figger >30,000 babies born each day in africa? Hold on while I Google that.
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You are saying that they are losing 12 million children a year but they have a high enough birth rate to not only sustain that but to increase their population? And that does not even count all the adults killed by... what? poverty? how bout accidents and aids and all the rest? How many kids are born a year there?
While this is all very sad no matter what the real number is...
It has nothing to do with a cowardly attack... no one in england is attacking these children in africa.
lazs
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To comment on what Tilt said...
A part of human nature is the ability to relate to things that happen close to one self and inability to relate to things that happen far away...
20 people killed in a car accident in ones home town is always viewed as a bigger disaster then a train crash killing 30.000 in India. Same way a terror attack in a town that one knows people in and has visited is always gonna feel more horrible then a cvil war in Rowanda killing 100.000s of people.
It shouldnt be that way I agree... but it is.. and to be honest Im quite glad it is or one would be depressed and sad every single day one turns on the news channel.
Tex
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So as not to hijack this thread, see my new post "African Birth Rate".
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My condolences to any who were affected by these cowardly acts. I heard it on the radio driving into work this morning, around 4 hours ago now. Felt like someone punched me in the gut. I mean, I've gotten used to our terror alerts going up and down, always wondering when the next one will happen, not if. I never really expected them to hit London. I mean, its always been a possibility, I've just gotten used to the idea of them hating Americans. Sure the British are there, and have been from the start, but its us they focus on. I've accepted that, and I guess gotten a bit numb to it. Hearing the reports this morning though kinda makes it all new again. It's like 9/11 hit again. All morning we've been discussing how to adjust security here, and if it's necessary, and figuring out labor costs and such.
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Originally posted by lazs2
While this is all very sad no matter what the real number is...
It has nothing to do with a cowardly attack... no one in england is attacking these children in africa.
lazs
One of the key issues under discussion at G8 was Africa both interms of debt relief and aid...but really these are mechanisms (effective or not as some would debate) to address the overall problem of poverty derived death rate in Africa. Infact the overal death rate approaches 50,000 per day this includes normal mortality so the 30,000 children estimated to die per day focuses stuff more as this is certainly not a natural mortality figure.
The terrorist attack on London has effectively "stalled" G8 for a day...the very day that Africa was under discussion.
If the terrorists attack allows focus to drift off the (normally ignored) African situation which is uniquely under focus in this G8 then the tragedy in London will be nothing to the continual tragedy perpetuated in Africa.
The G8 was never going to solve Africas problems but it was poised to properly recognise them on a world scale.......I hope that the G8 will not permit terrorists to undermine this.........
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Brits
Thread Hijackers
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Brits
Thread Hijackers
Ditto.
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15miles away from me..... very close
someone from next door works next to one of the effect stations. took her 2 hours to manage to phone home.
everyone i know is ok
someone from work son was on/near the bus exploison however he only has slight grazes from glass etc, nothing too bad.
so far im supprised its only 37 dead. i expect it to be just under 100 in the end as those trains often have 80 or so per carrage and the buses can carry 30 odd upstairs (which is totaly gone) and 45-55 downstairs.
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Originally posted by Gunthr
Long Live England
I'm stunned by the response of some Air America Listeners to this terrorist act:
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/randirhodes/messageboards/index.php?showtopic=57720&st=0&#entry494943
I hope viewpoints like these are confined to a few on the lunatic fringe...
excerpt:
Just like the rightwing blogs and such only the lunatics post badly. Most of the posts from your link are as they should be.
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and a big hearty F.U. from Blair.
"There will of course now be the most intense police and security service action to make sure that we bring those responsible to justice."
"It is through terrorism that the people that have committed these terrible acts express their values and it is right at this moment that we demonstrate ours.
"I think we all know what they are trying to do.
"They are trying to use the slaughter of innocent people to cow us, to frighten us out of doing the things that we want to do, trying to stop us from going about our business as normal, as we are entitled to do and they should not and they must not succeed.
"When they try to intimidate us, we will not be intimidated. When they seek to change our country or our way of life by these methods, we will not be changed.
"I would also pay tribute to the stoicism and resilience of the people of London who have responded in a way typical of them."
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> Brits :(
America stands with you.
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Prayers and Condolences Great Britain and London England. Stand strong.
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Swoop's turn.
I don't see what was supposed to have been accomplished today.
Ken Livingstone (Mayor of London) muttered something about trying to turn us against each other but I don't get that statement either. Brits don't turn against each other (or our allies), we just get pissed off.
All today is really going to accomplish is that anyone who looks the slightest bit Arabic is going to get a kicking on general principle. That's what your average British peasant does when he's pissed off, put the boot in and ask questions later.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
(proud to fly the flag)
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Anyone heard from Swoop?
(swoops post was not there when I started typing. )
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:D
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
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My sympathy goes out to all citizens of the UK, This war on terror has inflicted its casualties on you many times before. Taking losses, particularly losses of civilians is disheartening and tragic. Let's all renew our resolve to ridding the planet of as many of these Al-Queda criminals, their supporters, their families and anything they may have of any value or use to them.
I believe in being tougher than most by a long shot, I would stop using laser guided bombs and switch to nepalm en masse!
God Bless, London - Hang in there and thanks for being one of our few true friends. VERY sorry for your losses.
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Swoop's turn.
I don't see what was supposed to have been accomplished today.
Ken Livingstone (Mayor of London) muttered something about trying to turn us against each other but I don't get that statement either. Brits don't turn against each other (or our allies), we just get pissed off.
All today is really going to accomplish is that anyone who looks the slightest bit Arabic is going to get a kicking on general principle. That's what your average British peasant does when he's pissed off, put the boot in and ask questions later.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
(proud to fly the flag)
aye... we had some arabic person parked outside our store for almost an hour today, constantly on the phone, constantly getting out of the car and walking around, before coming into the store at which point our security had every possible camera on him making sure he wasnt planting anything.... and all because he was of middle eastern orign. Sad really.
Thats what the terrorists just dont get. They ruin there OWN lifes, and mess up other peace loving muslims lifes as well. I just dont understand there objective at all.
But then we are at war, we have been at war for many years. It may not be a war like WWII was like but its still a war, and probably a endless one as well...
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Originally posted by Swoop
:D
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
Hey look thats not swoop... those teeth look to good to be British!
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Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner,
That I love London so.
Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner
That I think of her wherever I go.
I get a funny feeling inside of me
Just walking up and down.
Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner
That I love London Town.
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I just hope all the Brits from here and their families are alright.
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My Mum called to say no one from our extended family was injured or killed this AM. I think today was one of the first times in history that the Webb clan is glad that for the most part, we are all blue collar factory workers.
My sincere condolences to anyone directly affected by this. Take heart that the suicide bombers are now receiving a reward very different from the one they expected.
While there are a few posts here I'd love to respond to, I agree that hijacking this thread is not the way. Start a new one and I'll set spleen to vent mode.
- SEAGOON
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Psalm 102:4...
My heart is smitten, and withered like grass...
Proverbs 3:31-33:
Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways...
The curse of the Lord is in the house of the wicked; but he blesseth the habitation of the just.
My condolences to our British friends.
Regards, Shuckins
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Hey Bat, I know you got bigger fish to fry right now but I wanted to make sure you and yours were all ok. Check in and let us know whats up.
<> And sincerest condolences to all your countrymen.
Geary
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End of a sad day.
Tilt is quite right, to put things in a little perspective. It has nothing to do with politics or liberals or whatever. It has everything to do with humanity and doing something for your fellow man.
The terrorists will have scored a bigger victory if the focus is taken off helping the plight of Africa and once again placed on the ME and this shadowy Al quaeda. Don't give em the airtime. Lets get back to business as soon as possible and lets continue leading the world in trying to solve its pressing problems that will show them. Moral victorys are the best ones.
Say a little prayer for those who won't be coming home tonight but save some of those prayers for the thousands of equaly innocent people dying in Africa and other poverty blighted places all over this world. Then those bastards won't win the victory and we'll show them who owns the moral high ground!( just a thought )
Glad that all you who were closer than I to todays events are OK and well.
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Thinking of Ya'll,
Londoners.
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Originally posted by Seagoon
. Take heart that the suicide bombers are now receiving a reward very different from the one they expected.
- SEAGOON
That's actually the best thing I've heard all day. But, I did hear not all or maybe any were suicide bombs. They found several "timeing" devices as well as other unexploded bombs on other buses and trains.
Glad to hear the Webb's are OK though :aok
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There were the Kaisers Zeppelins!
Then Old Goering tried to Bomb us into submission
then this lot
"February 1974: A coach carrying soldiers and families in northern England is bombed by the Irish Republican Army (IRA). Twelve killed and 14 hurt.
October-November 1974: Wave of IRA bombs in British pubs kills 28 people and wounds more than 200. (Birmingham will never forget that night!)
July 1982: Two IRA bomb attacks on soldiers in London's royal parks kill 11 people and wound 50.
December 1983: IRA bomb at London's Harrods department store kills six.
October 1984: Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's cabinet narrowly escapes IRA bomb which kills five people at hotel in English resort of Brighton during the Conservative Party's annual conference.
December 1988: A Pan Am Boeing 747 crashes on the town of Lockerbie, Scotland, killing all 259 aboard after a bomb on board explodes. Eleven people in Lockerbie are also killed.
September 1989: Bomb at Royal Marines Music School in Deal, in the South East kills 11 and wounds 22.
February 1991: The IRA fires mortar bomb at Prime Minister John Major's London office. No-one is injured.
April 1992: Huge car bomb outside Baltic Exchange in London's financial district kills three people and wounds 91.
March 1993: Bombs in two litter bins in Warrington, northern England, kill two boys aged three and 12.
April 1993: IRA truck bomb devastates Bishopsgate area of London's financial district, killing one and wounding 44.
February 1996: Two people die when the IRA detonate a large bomb in London's Docklands area.
March 2001: A powerful car bomb explodes outside the BBC's London headquarters. Police say the Real IRA, a republican splinter group opposed to the IRA's ceasefire, was behind the blast. One man was wounded. Devices also went off in Hendon and Ealing during the same campaign. "
(source BBC website)
Still going strong after all that so I don't think todays attacks will change things, the terrorists lost before they started!
Goodnight.
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london..such a horrible thing to happen..im sure alot of people are walking around with blank looks on there faces or worse...i know when we got hit on 9-11..you could see it in everyones faces.even know i live 3,000 miles from new york...you could tell everyone was in shock and it was so quite in the local mall..you could hear a pin drop ....takes time to get over it..then anger takes over..the word terrorist sickens me anymore...my prayers go out to the family and freinds who died today
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A prayer for Londoners.
There's not much more to say.
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I wish to extend my sympathies to all who perished or were wounded in this terrible attack, including the family and loved ones of those killed and injured. Sadly such random cowardly acts effect so many, including the children who have their innocence and childhoods stolen.
dago
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Heard a sayin somewhere,went something like
'All it takes for evil to succeed,is for good men to do nothing'
Never stop fiting this rabble,stand together
praying for the injured and bereaved
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Originally posted by Joc
Heard a sayin somewhere,went something like
'All it takes for evil to succeed,is for good men to do nothing'
Never stop fiting this rabble,stand together
praying for the injured and bereaved
I totaly agree with that.
Ignoring a problem and trying to wish it away will only bring it to your doorstep over and over again. It must be dealt with and dealt with continuously.
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Really sad news....
But I believe, that now, Ahmed Zakaev, the chechen terrorists lider, will be returned to Russia form GB. Now you know who are these "peaceful chechen rebels".
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Interesting day at work today. I work about 1,000 yards away from Aldgate tube.
The train into work was about 50% full.
About a 70% attendance at the office (the rest called in to say that they were not coming in - whether out of fear or the police advisory request, or just wanting an extended weekend, I'm not sure). It was a pretty normal day, all in all, after the inevitable question of, 'where were you when it happened?' the conversation moved onto more mundane subjects.
I was quite sneakily proud of the fact that nobody was emotionally overwrought about the events at all.
Ravs
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We may like to razz the Brits, but they invented the stiff upper lip.
to our courageous British allies.
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It's not courage, it's common sense.
Anyone whose beliefs deprive me of having a pint at the pub next door to my office are in serious trouble if they think they're going to stop me.
Ravs
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Agreed. Courage COMES from common sense.
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No...it's just my love for alcohol!
Ravs
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Originally posted by ravells
No...it's just my love for alcohol!
Ravs
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by ravells
Interesting day at work today. I work about 1,000 yards away from Aldgate tube.
The train into work was about 50% full.
About a 70% attendance at the office (the rest called in to say that they were not coming in - whether out of fear or the police advisory request, or just wanting an extended weekend, I'm not sure). It was a pretty normal day, all in all, after the inevitable question of, 'where were you when it happened?' the conversation moved onto more mundane subjects.
I was quite sneakily proud of the fact that nobody was emotionally overwrought about the events at all.
Ravs
That's awesome. Way to be. No stupid bumper stickers or "patriotic" country songs. I wish my countrymen were half as sensible.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
That's awesome. Way to be. No stupid bumper stickers or "patriotic" country songs. I wish my countrymen were half as sensible.
I still have the same little flag on a stick inside my car that I've had since 9/11/01 :eek:
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Originally posted by ravells
Interesting day at work today. I work about 1,000 yards away from Aldgate tube.
The train into work was about 50% full.
About a 70% attendance at the office (the rest called in to say that they were not coming in - whether out of fear or the police advisory request, or just wanting an extended weekend, I'm not sure). It was a pretty normal day, all in all, after the inevitable question of, 'where were you when it happened?' the conversation moved onto more mundane subjects.
I was quite sneakily proud of the fact that nobody was emotionally overwrought about the events at all.
Ravs
:aok
Also, state-side, Americans rush to buy British flags as show of support (http://www.komotv.com/stories/37849.htm)
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If you really, really wanted to show your support, you would all lobby your government to sign the Kyoto treaty on climate change ;)
Ravs
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Americans rush to buy British flags as show of support
Made in China
:lol
Gatso
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Ravells - I may have asked you before - do you work near Leadenhall Market? Was that area affected?
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Originally posted by ravells
If you really, really wanted to show your support, you would all lobby your government to sign the Kyoto treaty on climate change ;)
Ravs
No doubt tourism in London is going to take a major hit by this. People could help by not being afraid to visit Britain/London.
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Originally posted by ravells
If you really, really wanted to show your support, you would all lobby your government to sign the Kyoto treaty on climate change ;)
Ravs
LMAO Ravs! :rofl
Bro!
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Originally posted by Furball
No doubt tourism in London is going to take a major hit by this. People could help by not being afraid to visit Britain/London.
Possibly...NYC's tourism skyrocketed after 9/11. Either way, the worlds markets have been very strong, and I have to believe that alot of it has to do with the tenacity of the typical englishman. Stiff upper lip, etc.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
:aok
Also, state-side, Americans rush to buy British flags as show of support (http://www.komotv.com/stories/37849.htm)
I'm impressed, they've actually got the Union flag the right way round! (50/50 chance of getting it wrong way round and even many Brit's get it wrong way round too!)
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Originally posted by Gixer
See Rule #5, #2
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:rolleyes:
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Beetle asked:
Ravells - I may have asked you before - do you work near Leadenhall Market? Was that area affected?
I work about 10 mins walk away from Leadenhall which was unaffected. The bombs in the city went off at Aldgate and Moorgate.
Ravs
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I tried to post something sensible but I'm not a great writer.
Mes condoléances I cannot add something else.
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My condolances to all those affected by these absolutely cowardly events. The Brits have continually shown their resolve and I don't think these "people" will break that strength. Terrorism is a show of cowardice and I am proud that the US and the UK are taking the lead in dealing with it. Selector, how did you fare through all of this? Please check in
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Obviously, what I said in my post is being ignored.
If you want to act like children, go someplace else. If you are unable to show a modicum of respect, then stop and leave this thread. Second and last warning.
Bannings from here on out if you cannot control yourself. Make the choice. I grow tired of wasting my time with people who cannot get a clue.
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well just got back from my cousins funeral
uhgg
Sudden unexpected deaths are really crappy
My dad died when i was 14-15..It took him a year to rot. He had a brain tumor and he just got progresivly worse.
It was horrible..But at a certain point we knew he was going to pass away.
We were able to prepare..as much as you can for it
My cousin Mark..well hewas into everything fast..raced cars..raced gliders..RC glider world records..ect...
There were about 20 pilots at the funeral...about 15 of them flew with him in there gliders and at races on a regular basis. He was know to be very good..but a very agressive pilot. He loved flying fast..Hi and lo
His wreck was found near the peak at about 11, 500. What was strange is the sherrifs copter that found the wreck ..first found a hangglider ..somewhat wreked about 500 yds away.with about 20% snow covering it..No reports of missing persons..but they said there going to wait to recovoer that till after more snow thaws out..its very steep up there.
His family started to go thru soem of his stuff...wow..I didnt like it. His van that he towed his glider in ..we used to transport flowers and funeral stuff in..My unlce Jim and I drove it home. Going thru backpacks and stuff hurts. Its so strange to be here on eday..goen the next..all his stuff in the same place. He defnl,ty was not ready to leave.
Its defnlty diffent going thru your dead grandparents stuff years after..then going thru your cousins stuff days after
I cannot imagine his wife doing thsi stuff alone.
I cant imagine enuff how the families in London are doing this.
It makes me very sad and heavy hearted with a lump in my throat..and then I get very angry at the people with no regard to human life who will leave a bomb on a subway .
I can see the soldiers becoming even more agressive in the pursit of these scum.
The priest during the funeral ..like i said earlier..God wants you to live your life and enjoy it..Cause if you dont..that is not living.
So..Hug your family..go play..and pray for those who have lost there family members in trajic situations
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/842_1121041675_mark.jpg)
xoxo
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Greencloud,
That is very sad indeed. My condolences.
Hopefully it gives some comfort he passed away while doing something what he loved to do.
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Skuzzy,
No disrespect for those lost in London was intended. My apologies to all involved in the thread if any were offended.
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The word on the street is that there's likely to be another attack on London - perhaps even a carbon copy of the last. I wouldn't mind betting that it happens before the end of the summer.
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Originally posted by beet1e
The word on the street is that there's likely to be another attack on London - perhaps even a carbon copy of the last. I wouldn't mind betting that it happens before the end of the summer.
That isn't very credible source.
It is called hysteria.
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London has always been a tgt for someone or other! Yes of course its likely that there may be another attack. By who, why, when? Who knows. No point worrying about it. Be a bit carefull keep an eye out but just get on with it.
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Originally posted by Fishu
That isn't very credible source.
It is called hysteria.
ahem - you were saying? (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4703777.stm) Police sources say the blasts may have been near simultaneous and that they are being linked with the 7 July bombs.
They say a number of fugitives are being sought. Two people have been arrested in Whitehall.
Detectives are recovering a lot of evidence from the sites, and believe the latest events may either be a repetition of the 7 July attacks or may help with a breakthrough in the investigation.
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Sheesh Beet, way to try to play Nostradamus after the fact. Your initial post is one hour after the story you quoted.
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Originally posted by Stang
Sheesh Beet, way to try to play Nostradamus after the fact. Your initial post is one hour after the story you quoted.
No, my initial post in this thread was on 07/07/05, shortly after explosions on that day but two weeks before the latest explosions.
Then, on 07-15-2005 I posted again to suggest that there might well be another attack on London, perhaps even a carbon copy of the last. Fishu expressed some doubt about this, and dismissed the suggestion as "hysteria".
And look what happened - only two weeks after the last London explosions. Had Fishu been around a bit longer, he would know that I am never wrong on this board. ;)
Don't be misled by the time/date on the BBC web page - I think the BBC update it all the time.
And next time, read the whole thread before you slag me off.
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I'm starting to suspect you have rather too much knowledge of the timing of these attacks! :eek: How did you know this Beetle. Should M.I.(whatever) be informed!):lol
Keep laughing it makes us who we are!
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Originally posted by beet1e
Had Fishu been around a bit longer, he would know that I am never wrong on this board. ;)
Check the date Fishu registered here against yours.
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Originally posted by Mr. Toad
Check the date Fishu registered here against yours.
Yes, I see that fishu signed up before I did. My choice of words could have been better. I perhaps should have said been around the board "more" rather than "longer". Initial board registration is no indicator of one's level of participation. Do a profile search on a guy called --sd-- - he registered Sept 1999, and has made a total of only 4 posts in that time! Incidentally, --sd-- was an excellent WB trainer and one of my best friends in that game.
Back on topic... The UK Yahoo home page carries a story about the failed bomb attack: The devices triggered only small blasts on three underground trains and a bus in what appeared to be a failed attempt at a carbon-copy of attacks, blamed on al Qaeda-style Islamist militants, that killed 56 people on July 7.
Source: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050721/325/fnwmv.html
Note the wording in that report. The attacks are being described as a "carbon copy" of July 7 - the exact words I used on July 15 ^ when predicting a repetition of the awful events of July 7.
Skydancer - good job I'm going on hols for 2 weeks. (I expect TOD to be ready when I get back - lol) Because when I predict something on this board, it happens. I just can't help being right! ;) So best I make myself scarce for a while.