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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Pooface on July 09, 2005, 05:29:45 PM
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now we all compained about the height of trees and the depth and whatever, and skuzzy explained the reasons that they need to be kept that way. this being said, i came up with an idea last night, thatll save a lot of wing tips :)
can we make the trees darker???
a little more visibilty will make such a difference. the trees as they are are far too light-greeney coloured, which isnt how they are in real life. darker trees would be easier to navigate through, and would make the scenery look so much better, and all that needs done is a quick 10 minute change to the tree template (i might be wrong here though)
any thoughts?
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Agreed. The trees blend in too much.
And those pesky lil buggers in extended runway vectors.......... :mad:
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yeah, its a quick fix, but it should work. might make the terrain look better too:aok
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I agree. Trees and some of the ground have a very ugly puke green color to them.
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make em bigger , that will make em easier to see. :lol
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The only problem with the trees I have is that I think they should be moved farther away from the fields. Since the trees have been implemented I have lost at least 3-5 262s and many other planes and many kills. Trying to take off in the 262 with the trees so close is hard especially in front of hills and landing can be hard with 262s trying to make over the trees and being able to land with what runway is left after touching the runway.
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Screw losing 262's, my precious 109's lose their wings on the descent. Now I have to resort to either doing a split-S and bellying it on the runway or coming in on a high angle to miss the trees and hopefully come to a stop.
I can see that trees are effective for GVs, but I say clear them out at least a K or two.
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Im okay with trees IM NOT OKAY with 30 FOOT bushes blow up airplanes. SHURBS can not do that.
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I see it this way:
at least on medium and large airfields there should be no trees/scrub at all in the extensions of runways. Logic dictates that those would have been cut down to ensure safe passage for medium and heavy bombers on take off and landing, or jets for that matter.
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i actually believe this will be hard to do. skuzzy said that the trees are designed to cover a specific area, and i think they may actually have it as a random thing, with like 15% of land covered randomly. removing single trees may be harder than it looks
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Hmmm but when you plant an airfield, there is a void created for it. Wouldnt it be relatively esay to make a half mile extension of the runway invisible/grass/ground colored? So to speak a flattened lane of grass preceeding and extending the runway...
just thinking out loud... That way the terrain engine wouldnt be able to create trees there.
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Wouldnt it be relatively esay to make a half mile
No it would not.
HiTech
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ht has such a way of explaining something with very few words:lol
i remember talking to skuzzy about it, and IIRC, they dont place the trees, they are random. the only place you will not get a tree is ON the field. it is only by coinicidence that there is always a lone pesky tree in the way:D
if it wasnt done this way, they'd have to place the trees manually, which would replace the 2 weeks tod joke with a 2 years tod joke:rolleyes:
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:D leaves no room for discussion!
Dammit and I thought I had a smart idea..
Originally posted by hitech
No it would not.
HiTech
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The terrain builder is the one controlling if there is a forest or a mountain at the end of the runway. This is something I took into consideration when making the frac3 map.
As far as making half-mile extensions it is possible. Two new object tiles (one for north/south, east/west runways and one for ne/sw, nw/se runways) could be made that don't allow the terrain to show through. This is the same principle that the fields are currently using. You don't see trees in the middle of an airfield that is sitting on a forest tile. The terrain builder can place these new object tiles adjacent to the field tiles and rotate them so they clear the trees from the ends of the runways. This may or may not be easy, but it is doable.
Of course that is a little off topic from changing the color of the trees.
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WOuld this be a solution?
Could the size of the airfield "package" be expanded so the tile includes aset amount of surrounding, apparently uninvolved terrain? That way FOR THAT SPECIFIC zone, teh tree placement is nonrandom and the runway extensions would be clear.
Just a thought. The only coding I do depends on a ring I found in a cereal box....
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The only way it could be done with the current system is to put custom squares in the 8 surronding 1 mile tiles of the airport. This also has the effect of making the the ground flat for 9 square miles.
Most can be aliveated by just changing the tile type of the terrains cells surronding the air port.
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I say just make tree killing a stat......I would be a friggin ace if that was the case.
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settles that.....
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(http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/mounties.jpg)
http://www.mwscomp.com/sounds/mp3/lumberjk.mp3
Lumberjack Song
I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night. I work all day.
Mounties : He's a lumberjack, and he's okay.
He sleeps all night and he works all day.
I cut down trees. I eat my lunch.
I go to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea.
Mounties: He cuts down trees. He eats his lunch.
He goes to the lavatory.
On Wednesdays he goes shopping
And has buttered scones for tea.
Chorus : I'm (He's) a lumberjack, and I'm (he's) okay.
I (He) sleep(s) all night and I (he) work(s) all day.
I cut down trees. I skip and jump.
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars.
Mounties : He cuts down trees. He skips and jumps.
He likes to press wild flowers.
He puts on women's clothing
And hangs around in bars?!
Chorus : I'm (He's) a lumberjack, and I'm (he's) okay.
I (He) sleep(s) all night and I (he) work(s) all day.
I cut down trees. I wear high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie,
Just like my dear Mama
Mounties : He cuts down trees. He wears high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra?!
Chorus : I'm (He's) a lumberjack, and I'm (he's) okay.
I (He) sleep(s) all night and I (he) work(s) all day.
Yes, I'm (He's) a lumberjack, and I'm (he's) ok-a-y.
I (He) sleep(s) all night and I (he) work(s) all day.
Sorry, with all the tree talk lately I just could not resist.:lol
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well this is what i was talking about. it will be time consuming and a little weird lookin to edit the terrain, so just make the trees more visible by darkening them, problem solved. i will give £10 to anyone who goes and flies in the ta low. you WIL knock a wing off, and you will realise that it wasnt the tree placement, but the visiblity that breaks ya wing off. easy and fast, darken the trees:aok
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Am I the only one that never has problems with the trees?
I sometimes crash into em but at no more feequency then I do the ground from time to time. and when I do I usually see its about to happen just too late or too far out of control to do anything about it just as what happens form time to time when I auger into the ground or water.
I never not once have had problems taking off. If I see trees at the end of the runway and I dont think I can clear em. I take a different runway. Just as I would if a mountain was in the way and just the way they would have done in RL.
I fly between em around em and practically in em and have yet to have crashed into one while intentionally weaving in and out of them.
you folks really need to stop whining about the trees and just learn how to deal with em. Just asI have.
and its not like I have a hotrod system either cause I dont.
Its probably lower end middle of the pack by todays standards
No complaints about the trees here
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this isnt a whine, it was a serious request to htc, just to darken the tree template. the scenery will look better, and the trees will be easier to see(stops people whining, and also helps, because at the moment, the trees are very similar in colour to the ground)
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Originally posted by Pooface
this isnt a whine, it was a serious request to htc, just to darken the tree template. the scenery will look better, and the trees will be easier to see(stops people whining, and also helps, because at the moment, the trees are very similar in colour to the ground)
Yea. wanted to edit the whine part this morning but cant cause of this new 60 min rule.
Wrote it when I was tired & cranky LOL
My apologies.
Wasnt ment to be directed to the request for the color change
but to those that do whine about it on just about every other front
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Am I the only one that never has problems with the trees?
No you are not.
Never been clipped on takoff .
Never been clipped on landing unless I was damaged.
Many a time those friendly tree have cleared my 6 in a tight situation.