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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Soda on July 11, 2005, 11:50:58 PM
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Any suggestions for a router brand for home. I have two PC's to hook up through a cable modem connection, would like to have a wireless option (802.11g) for when I bring a laptop home. Something reliable and secure that won't cost me a bundle. I've seen DLinks, LinkSYS, SMC... lots of options out there I'm sure, any warnings/recommendations?
Wife is getting antsy and nudging me to hook up the other PC so she can MSN Messenger her sister.... you get the idea, it's not IF this will happen, it's WHEN.
Thanks,
-Soda
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Got the linksys, it works great.
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See if you can try the admin interface before you buy it, i have seen diffrences in the firewall admin functions from totally incomprehensive to verry logical.
See if you can find an test in a networking magazine or online.
I have one from the internet provider (made by zyxel) where the firewall is hard to set up, dont know the original type marking and the software is modified by arcor so might be better on the original.
The signal strength and quality is diffrent so if want your notebook to work at the end of the garden or on another floor look for a strong signal.
Other than that all i saw so far worked and i havent seen any diffrence in operating, given the choice i would take the most common most popular, the more produced the longer the service holds.
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At work I have tried LinkSys, DLink and Buffalo.
None has a "firewall" but all do NAT, that is kinda firewall in this case.
With DLink I had problems setting it up. Finding correct drivers was a mess also. I guess the support is better over there tho.
In the end, the bios had to be DOWN GRADED to get all funktions to work. The main problem was that my DLink WLAN card was not compatible with my DLink WLAN router. Both was "802.11g" standard, but of different "custom" type.
With LinkSys I did not personally play, but my collegue did. He had to down grade the BIOS also :confused: He was unable to hide the SID (Wlan) before that. The support in USA had no help for him, so I guess it was an issue only here in Finland?
I peronally am using Buffalo. It just works. Only problem is signal strenght, that is not the best. Well it has a connection for an extra antenna, that I never tried.
I guess my collegue would still use LinkSys, because it's signal strengt was better than Buffalo.
There are also models of WLAN routers that has DSL or other embended funktions. But I would keep the DSL seppareate. One reason for this is that if the ISP changes, and one needs a different kind of modem, one would probobly still be able to use the same WLAN router.
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One of th eplayers, who has multiple systems online (wife and husband play together) went through several different routers and finally got a Motorola model.
None of the Linksys or DLink models would properly support voice in the game while both of them were online. Linksys and DLink, apparently, do not support UDP over NAT translations, while the Motorola one does. I do not know the model number, but if you contact Motorola and ask them which model supports UDP over NAT, they will be able to tell you.
Linksys nor DLink support do not understand what 'UDP over NAT' is.
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That strange because I have a linksys router and my son and I play online at sametime and we both use vox. No problems. Actually there is but I think I narrowed it to my onboard nic. I get booted from game like every 1-2 hrs. My son's computer never does,lol. But as far as vox, We have no problems. In fact I haven't lost vox since my son started playing 2 weeks ago online. Seems strange,lol.
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The Linksys WRT54GS allows UDP/NAT traversal and has an easy to use Admin interface.
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Thanks for the info, Skuzzy, I've had to switch back to my nephew country when he is online. Otherwise, we hear each other's country vox transmissions... if we play on the same country, we rarely ever have a problem though.
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Originally posted by Vipermann
The Linksys WRT54GS allows UDP/NAT traversal and has an easy to use Admin interface.
That is the one I have.
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I have a Linksys 4 port router running a home network, vox has NEVER gone out on me. Sometimes I wish it would.
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Just another data point on the Linksys. I've literally installed a dozen lynksys routers in clients' homes. Not one of them have been unable to play games of any kind.
*I* have a Linksys router, and haven't ever had a problem playing any games, though for certain games I have had to open ports in the firewall. No big deal.
And finally, when running the WB Con in Pensacola, we had a T-1 running into the Con rool, and guess what we used to split the connection around? A linksys 8-port router. No special configuration was necessary. Yeah, it was WB and not AH, but you get the idea. That's the unit I have at my house now, BTW.
So, I guess I am saying that there is a pretty good body of evidence that a Linksys will work fine for gaming. ;-)
-Llama
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Great feedback, thanks guys. Sounds like the Linksys WRT54GS is the way to go. Might pick one up and see how it works.
-Soda
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If you require enhanced wireless range get the WRT54GX which is basically the same as the WRT54GS but has a more powerful wireless signal and support for 802.3 and 802.3u.
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I got the NETGEAR DG834 wired router, it overheats once a day & makes me loss my connection (pissed me right off when I had 8 victorys lol) but im not sure if mines faulty. But you can get right back on after a few secs.:aok
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I had the original LinkSys home grade router. It worked ok for a few years then Istarted getting bad connections.
Switched to NetGear a couple of years ago. At the time it had the lowest latency available in a home grade router. It works fine. I don't know the latency specs for current routers, but that's something you should check before you buy.
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I also have the linksys WRT54GS. Set up was no problem at all, and I don't know crap about networking. I'm very happy with it.
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Been using a Linksys router (an older BEFSR81) here with good results and no problems with voice or anything else.
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My son and I both play at the same time with 2 seperate accounts, and use VOX with no problems. I have a D-Link DI-614+ Router that works well for us. Got it at Costco IIRC.
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Never had any kind of problem with anything Linksys I've ever had.
On the other hand Everything Ive ever owned Belkin I've had a problem with.
Real happy with linksys. 3 machines and one game consoll hooked up to it and even when every one on at the same time I dont suffer so much as a hiccup playing the game
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Originally posted by Kazaa
I got the NETGEAR DG834 wired router, it overheats once a day & makes me loss my connection (pissed me right off when I had 8 victorys lol) but im not sure if mines faulty. But you can get right back on after a few secs.:aok
Mine is up since 6 months now without any trouble.
Check if it's not your ISP changing your IP adress (it can be DHCP related).
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got airlink (frys elect. cheapo brand), we have not probs at all and for 24.99 when its onsale and 12.99 for the wireless cards its a steal.
we been using them for bout 2 years now.
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I've been using a Linksys WRT54G with Aces High for more than a year. I use it with fine success for:
H2H client mode (5 computers simultaneously, VOX ok with all)
H2h hosting (5 computers simultaneously, no external VOX)
When HOSTING H2H, nobody outside of my local LAN can participate in VOX.
But when somebody ELSE is hosting the H2H session, all of my client machines can access their voice traffic.
When I host H2H, I use Teamspeak for voice, because the Teamspeak UDP system works well over NAT. I don't know why I don't have the same experience with AH2 UPD over NAT for voice.
All of the flight-related details work correctly in all modes. Only AH voice gives any problems, and then only when I am hosting, and the problems are only visible to people out on the Internet (external to my LAN).
You can see pictures and movies about my setup here:
http://snowplow.org/bobbosen/fslab/
And more network details are available here:
http://askmisterwizard.com/BoseNet
(click on "BoseNetCh14DiagramTourWmmMagi xWME.wmv")
Regards,
-Peabody-
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How did you get 5 hooked up at once?
thought most routers only support 4.
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4 wired ports + wireless. I have same router and it works fine.
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don't forget to change the default passwords. :D
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Quoting:
"How did you get 5 hooked up at once?
thought most routers only support 4."
Actually, most NAT routers support 253 hosts (255 in a typical class "C" subnet, minus the single broadcast address and minus the subnet address).
Once your router asserts routing intelligence to support a new IP subnet with up to 253 hosts over your local Ethernet LAN, you just have to add ethernet hubs or switches to add more and more hosts.
This is all explained here (13Megabyte wmv movie lasting 4.5 minutes):
http://askmisterwizard.com/NetworkBasics/Hubs/EthernetHubsExplained640x320At500Kbps.wmv
In practice, you probably don't want to avoid burdening a single router with more than a dozen hosts or so because having too many hosts can clog the available ISP or router bandwidth
-Peabody-
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Linksys, period.