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Title: gunsight
Post by: Pooface on July 12, 2005, 05:11:01 PM: i made a killer gunsight a few minutes ago, and just tried it in ah. for some reason it wouldnt show up. at first, it was a white sight onthe purple, but it didnt work. then i went back and changed the colour to slightly off white, and it still doesnt work:mad:

anyone know what im doing wrong?
Title: gunsight
Post by: Pooface on July 12, 2005, 05:33:15 PM: anyone know anything about gunsights???
Title: gunsight
Post by: Waffle on July 12, 2005, 06:11:12 PM: try it on an all blak background (rgb 0,0,0). No need for alpha index either.
Title: gunsight
Post by: Pooface on July 12, 2005, 06:26:47 PM: tried it but no effect. here is sight, and what happened:

(http://www.thesproge.com/uploads/ahss3.bmp)

(http://www.thesproge.com/uploads/poossight1.bmp)

btw, great job on those 51's mate :aok
Title: gunsight
Post by: Waffle on July 12, 2005, 06:46:11 PM: try this: (right click, save as)

(http://www.dangreve.com/poossight1.bmp)

You need to save them as idexed files, 8-bit vs the 24bit which it was saved as.
Title: gunsight
Post by: zmeg on July 12, 2005, 06:47:33 PM: The sample you posted is in 24 bit color, chang it to 8 bit and make sure the 1st color on the color table is black. If you don't know how to do that just past it over a working gunsight.
Title: gunsight
Post by: Pooface on July 12, 2005, 06:50:32 PM: ty waffle, it works well now. i likw what you did with it btw, looks like a real reflector sight:aok how did you do that, u know, fade it and tint the colour. was it something like photoshop with colour temperature?

thanks again mate
Title: gunsight
Post by: Mustaine on July 12, 2005, 08:37:42 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Waffle BAS
try this: (right click, save as)

(http://www.dangreve.com/poossight1.bmp)

You need to save them as idexed files, 8-bit vs the 24bit which it was saved as.
dude waffle ..

if i give you a sight to work from, can you make it a blue thing like you did there?

AND do you have any IM prog, where i can discuss and learn how you did that?
Title: gunsight
Post by: Waffle on July 12, 2005, 08:39:39 PM: neg on the IM

post the sight and i'll mess with it.
Title: gunsight
Post by: Mustaine on July 12, 2005, 08:44:35 PM: cc :( i'd love to learn how to do that... but anyway... here's the jpg, cant hose bmp's at picturehangar

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1121218983_c205.jpg)

i used that with mucho success in the past....

if you can make it blueish i'll love you long time ;)

BTW i was hoping for a 256 version of it, but never got around to it
Title: gunsight
Post by: Pooface on July 12, 2005, 09:30:46 PM: ok, i figured it out. waffle, what program did you use. i went with mine, but in red, and blurred it a little more with photoshop, and it looks really good. thought you did such a great job with mine so i downloaded yours. theyre great man, they look very real:aok

thanks a lot for the help:D
Title: gunsight
Post by: Pooface on July 12, 2005, 09:34:46 PM: mustaine, go over your sight with a slightly light blue (best done in paint using the fill tool). once youve done that, fill the background with black. then, use an advanced program (one that has an image effect tool, and smoothen the image. just do it enough to make it a little blurry. then use it in game. it looks like a real reflector sight :)
Title: gunsight
Post by: Mustaine on July 12, 2005, 09:43:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Pooface
mustaine, go over your sight with a slightly light blue (best done in paint using the fill tool). once youve done that, fill the background with black. then, use an advanced program (one that has an image effect tool, and smoothen the image. just do it enough to make it a little blurry. then use it in game. it looks like a real reflector sight :)
i have tried... no luck, im using the wrong parameters i guess lol

in photoshop (which i dont have) i saw someone use the "neon" tool to make what i am talking about.....

i will try again in paint shop, but it does not come out even close.
:mad:
Title: gunsight
Post by: Pooface on July 12, 2005, 09:49:30 PM: ok mate, im working on it now for ya

guaranteed waffle will do a better job, but hey, im having fun :)
Title: gunsight
Post by: Pooface on July 12, 2005, 10:09:30 PM: ok, here you go mustaine. sorry, it had to be turqoise, because blue was very weak. im using the free trail of paint shop pro, whch aint so good, but im sure waffles will look a bit better. hows this for now?

(http://www.thesproge.com/uploads/mustang.bmp)

here's what i did with my one

(http://www.thesproge.com/uploads/ultimate.bmp)
Title: gunsight
Post by: Mustaine on July 13, 2005, 12:28:00 AM: see how nice and smooth the rim line is on yours?

thats what i was hoping for, like i mentioned, all i gave was the raw file, i have no clue how to get the "halo" effect of the edges.

how do yuo do it, noone has even bothered to explain :(
Title: gunsight
Post by: SteffK on July 13, 2005, 12:43:34 AM: Is this the sort of thing you were looking for?

(http://www.71sqn.co.uk/180_1121218983_c205.bmp)

Needs testing in AH, not had chance to test it :)
Title: gunsight
Post by: Pooface on July 13, 2005, 05:39:26 AM: ok mustaine, i went over the lines with blue, and then filled everything in with black. saved, and put it in paint shop pro, but any image editor will do. then try and find the blur or smoothen edges tool, ans just smooth it out a bit. confusing i know, but you'll get the hang of it. then, open the sight with paint, and save as, selecting 256 colour, rather than 24 bit, and your good to go:aok
Title: gunsight
Post by: Waffle on July 13, 2005, 09:27:40 AM: here ya go 73:

(http://www.dangreve.com/jb73.bmp)
Title: gunsight
Post by: Mustaine on July 13, 2005, 09:32:08 AM: dude.. you the man! gonna try it tonight. TY

now how did you do that and get it so smooth LOL

im guessing some type of gaugassion blur or whatever the spelling is lol....

that's the kind of effects i can never figure out how to get right.
Title: gunsight
Post by: Pooface on July 13, 2005, 09:57:28 AM: yeah, i dont know how he got it smooth but kept the colour!

waffle, what image editor did you use for that, and what effect was it?

also, can the sight be in any size?
Title: gunsight
Post by: United on July 13, 2005, 09:58:02 AM: Yep, Im thinking a little gaussian blur myself.

Looks perty.
Title: gunsight
Post by: Mustaine on July 13, 2005, 10:03:45 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Pooface
also, can the sight be in any size?
sights can be 64x 128x 256x or 512x from what i have tried
Title: gunsight
Post by: SteffK on July 13, 2005, 02:06:39 PM: Thats what I tried United... Gausian blur set to 1.0...Might try something a bit bigger :), Nice Job Waffle
Title: gunsight
Post by: Waffle on July 13, 2005, 05:28:00 PM: I use the gaussian blur as well as radial, some times the lens blur.

I usually make the sight first in white using paths, then make a merged copy of the just the white - then duplicate that several times. then you can use the opaciaty on the layers and blur a layer or 2 and blend them, then you can bring out the unblurred layer a bit for the clarity. then merge that with a black layer. Now create a new layer and do your color on it. now take the blacklayer/with sight on it and move it on top of the color layer - Use multiply / luminosity as the layer property and you have your sight -

index it, save it.

I havent tried the 512x512 yet, and I dont think it would be a big issue on performance since its only seen on your FE. Just eats up more texture memory

I'm interested in trying it, and see if I can add in a "ghost" image succesfully that would give the gunsight glass depth.
Title: gunsight
Post by: Mustaine on July 13, 2005, 05:32:54 PM: i tried 512 back in the AH1 days ... didn't have a performance git, but it looked... well... funny

then again all that work was dont in ms paint lol you could count the pixels.

TY for the tips waffle will try myself next time sir!!!!
Title: gunsight
Post by: wrag on July 14, 2005, 01:51:12 PM: Hey nice work!

Grabbed em all