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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Krusher on July 13, 2005, 12:50:32 PM
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Bernie Ebbars just went down for 25 years.
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Hope he likes Yazoo City.
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Maybe he should not have stolen a few hundred million dollars?
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Deleted
Rule 7
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LOL.. such an excellent visual there, Sandy. ;)
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and lots of it too.
hurrah.
a thief is a thief is a thief.
;)
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YUP couldnt agree more. :aok
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He was also forced to forfeit his big house and most of his fortune. His wife is left with 50K and a modest home.
I honestly didn't think Justice worked like that anymore. to the judge. Nice to see at least one of them gets what's coming to them.
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Our sentencing guidelines are hosed. If he'd just killed someone he could be out in 7 years.
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"Our sentencing guidelines are hosed...."
You bet it is. IMO it was a travesty he wasn't dragged right off to prison the moment the sentence was handed down.
It was bad enough he was found guilty back in March and they said come back in a few months for sentencing. Now he is told to go home, enjoy the summer and we'll see you in the fall?
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Originally posted by Westy
"Our sentencing guidelines are hosed...."
You bet it is. IMO it was a travesty he wasn't dragged right off to prison the moment the sentence was handed down.
It was bad enough he was found guilty back in March and they said come back in a few months for sentencing. Now he is told to go home, enjoy the summer and we'll see you in the fall?
That's pretty standard for non violent crimes.
It wasn't my point, though, but you knew that and chose to ignore it.
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That's right. Cause your point is another discussion altogether. But you knew that.
There is no need to try and hijack this one.
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Originally posted by Westy
That's right. Cause your point is another discussion altogther and no need to hijack this one.
But you knew that.
This is a discussion? He made a statement.
But you knew that. I don't blame you for avioding having to admit the obvious when it shows the liberal beliefe system to be flawed.
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I'm not avoiding anything at all other than your usual attempt to turn the discussion towards another subject. Then again. You know that and choose to ignore it.
(and it truly would have been a suckers bet to see when you would toss the word "liberal" into the discussion)
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Nice spin. I'll allow you to salvage your pride and avoid the discussion. You seem to have a hard time doing that from your repeated replies to a discussion you claim to be avoiding.
The fact remains, a system that puts a thief behind bars for 25 years and a murderer can be out in 7 is flawed.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Our sentencing guidelines are hosed. If he'd just killed someone he could be out in 7 years.
Given the choice between seven years in a "federal pound me in the bellybutton prison" or twenty-five in a white collar resort, which would you pick? ;)
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Originally posted by Sandman
Given the choice between seven years in a "federal pound me in the bellybutton prison" or twenty-five in a white collar resort, which would you pick? ;)
4 walls are 4 walls.
I'd probably prefer to bend over for 7 years than spend 25 in a cell.
That question doesn't have anything to do with my sentencing guidelines comment, though.
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Let's review Martlet. Turn down 96.9 and stow the "I wanna be like Jay Sever_tard_son" booklet.
We have:
Ebbers
Jail
25 years
I do not see anywhere there or after, until your post, any discussion or statement about liberal courts or sentences for murder.
I would wager if you did not try to hijack (yet another) topic for you own agenda (trashing anything "liberal") but instead created your own topic about liberal courts and the sentencing of murderers you may actually get a discussion on liberal courts and the sentences of murderers.
You remind me of a guy here at work who will invariably interject some unrelated personal story or experience into an on going discussion. All it takes is one key word and he'll butt in and go off on his own tangent. It's a true conversation killer and soon anyone involved in the original talk quickly find an excuse to escap and go away. Where upon this dork gets smug thinking he had a superior tale to tell or point to make. When in all actuality the guy is a loser and no one wants to listen to him.
I wonder?
Nah.
Arg. I have to. I got to go walk by him to see if he's logged on to this webboard
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25 years is appropriate IMHO. How many lives did this guy ruin?
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Did you have something to add to the discussion? I didn't read much after the blah blah blah. You should have taken my offer to leave before you embarrassed yourself.
I'll help you follow the sequence of the discussion:
Bernie 25 years.
YaY!
He's going to get bum humped.
Yay!
YaY!
That's justice!
Martlet: It isn't justice.
Westy: waaaaah, you're off topic!
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Originally posted by Sandman
25 years is appropriate IMHO. How many lives did this guy ruin?
I'm not sure.
Do you think it's appropriate that murderers, rapists, and child molestors are eligible for parole but he isn't?
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I think mandatory sentencing is crap. :)
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Originally posted by Sandman
I think mandatory sentencing is crap. :)
I agree. The point of my post wasn't as much to say his sentence wasn't fair, but to say it certainly wasn't on par with the sentences in place for other crimes.
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if justice was based off this guys sentence, the libs would be crying how cruel it is to the criminals who commit violent crimes and the sentences they are given...as no one who commits a murder, rape or child perv would ever get anything less than life w/o parole....
... which I have no problem with
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Originally posted by Martlet
Our sentencing guidelines are hosed. If he'd just killed someone he could be out in 7 years.
Ture..guidelines are hosed..he deserved more...and a murderer should never get out.
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"25 years is appropriate IMHO. How many lives did this guy ruin?"
25yrs? Very appropriate as long as he serves his time until he cannot. Meaning he receives early release by way of a pine box out the prison gates. And at his age it is literally a "life" sentence.
Considering the extent of the fraud which has had such a serious impact on the lives of tens of thousands (and the repercussions will be felt by a hundred thousand or two at least) I'd say he got that sentence the old fashioned way. He earned it.
That the guy isn't in an orange jumpsuit cleaning the stalls in the prison mens room right is, IMO, wrong.
Realizing that the sentence (for him) is literally "life" if it were me I'd be thinking about plans for an open ended vacation to a country with no extradition obligations to the US. What would he have to lose trying? Nothing.
Martlet: ""
Westy: "Uh Oh. Gotta go. Think I left the car lights on!"