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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Bodhi on July 18, 2005, 09:36:10 PM
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/18/nra.ban.ap/index.html
Looks like the city of Columbus doesn't give a rats patuee about it's citizens rights as Americans. Yet again, they try t violate rights, and like the last two times they will be beaten again for violating the constitution.
It seems to me that something needs to be done about states violating federal rights. Enough is enough.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
[url]It seems to me that something needs to be done about states violating federal rights. Enough is enough.
1861 called, it wants its mandate back.
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The convention was expected to generate $15 million to $20 million for city businesses, but other groups have shown interest in meeting in the city the week the NRA was to have its meeting, said Paul Astleford, president of the city's convention and visitors bureau.
BS.
I've been dying to see the first violent reaction to someone banning guns.
As a matter of fact, it's almost a wet dream of mine.
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^^
enh?
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Revolution, man. I'm talking about a revolution.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
Almost everyone goes running to the second ammendment. This is the ammendment though, that says that the states CAN NOT **** WITH THE CONSTITUTION.
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The latest law attempts to avoid that by spelling out a distinction between legal sporting weapons and military-style assault weapons.
here's what I don't understand. There's nothing in the second amendment that mention's hunting.....it's not about sport weapons its about protection from tyrany and oppression.
I guess it would be ok if this city council just wittled away a bit at the 4th amendment for the sake of "crime"?
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Crime.. I'll tell yah what a crime is.. drivin round town with a warm beer in an unarmed half-a-brake-job jeep.. that's a damn crime!
There oughta be an amendment..
henh.
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See Rule #7
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Crime.. I'll tell yah what a crime is.. drivin round town with a warm beer in an unarmed half-a-brake-job jeep.. that's a damn crime!
There oughta be an amendment..
henh.
are we gonna do this in every thread? :rolleyes: :lol
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honestly! what the hell would you use an assault rifle for? you cant use it for self defence on the street because it is too bulky. you cant use it for home defence because it is not good for confined spaces. FOR ONCE!! JUST ****ING ADMIT THAT THE ONLY REASON YOU WANT ASSAULT RIFLES IS BECASE THEY ARE COOL!!!!!
Revolution, dude. Revolution.
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indeed bodhi. indeed. i prefer a short FAL, preferable the jungle carbine, shoots a bigger bullit, more accurate. but M4s are a heck of alota fun.:aok
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See Rule #2
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Originally posted by Bodhi
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While the M-4 traverses like a charm, the area BEHIND the intruder leaves ALOT of room for others to get hurt.
Karaya
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
See Rule #7
They are cool. You choose NOT to own one. Fine, you made your choice, now what you need to do is sit back down in the back of the class.
Self Defense? The human knee need only 8 lbs of pressure to break. However, giving the perp a rifle butt is effective as well.
Karaya
PS - SMIDSY is all bark and no bite. Feed the TROLLS!
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
honestly! what the hell would you use an assault rifle for? you cant use it for self defence on the street because it is too bulky. you cant use it for home defence because it is not good for confined spaces. FOR ONCE!! JUST ****ING ADMIT THAT THE ONLY REASON YOU WANT ASSAULT RIFLES IS BECASE THEY ARE COOL!!!!!:mad: Golly-geen malitia retards should just join the national gaurd.
Dont you just love that liberal California tolerance?
This is the typical 2nd amendment hating attitude down here in the Bay Area. I will do my best to fight it by firing off several hundered rounds at the range shortly after work tommorow!
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Revolution indeed. Were do we define how much self defense we need? Who defines it, the govt? The state? The city council? Is that freedom having somone else define the limits of your constitutional rights.
What about other rights. Can the city council say that search and seizure rights do not apply in their city. They must stem the tide of illegal trafficing so police need the ability to search any house any car any time for any reason?
on that same note let's say those perversions of rights do happen and you now find yourself pitted against an unjust police state.......how do you stop them? You gave them the only guns along time ago.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
honestly! what the hell would you use an assault rifle for? B]
TO locate, close with, and destroy my enemy by fire and manuver and to repell the enemy's assault by fire and close combat.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Dont you just love that liberal California tolerance?
This is the typical 2nd amendment hating attitude down here in the Bay Area. I will do my best to fight it by firing off several hundered rounds at the range shortly after work tommorow!
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hey, im all for owning assault rifles. but ADMIT WHY YOU WANT THEM!! i admit that the only reason i would own a gun is so that i could take it down to the range and shoot it.
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Not true at all, I want to use mine to commit violent street crimes, just like everyone else!
I had the same thought about the
Barett M82 in 50BMG but thankfully the CA govt stepped in saved us all from the ongoing rampages of $5,000 25lbs rifles being used in crimes. Phew!
Oh and by the way, why are you lefists so stuck up on the cosmetics of the thing? In function a civil AR15 is no different than any other semi auto magazine fed centerfire rifle. Full auto has been illegal for decades now.
Does the pistol grip make it more deadly, or just more deadly looking to ignorant californian women voters?
So its really your side thats wat too much over the top pointlesly obessed with the look of these firearms. :)
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anything below state level doesn't obey those rights. Hell even riverside county has tried/is trying to pass laws staying that i can't ride my dirt bike in my back yard. (1/2 acre)
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ah beautiful norco. how the place has changed. lived at 1066 hamner ave until i got drafted in 1970. cowstuff and hay. lol i dont miss that stuff. is the naval warfare station still there?
JT
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
See Rule #7
Please define what a real "assault" rifle is?
Is it cosmetics or function that make up a real "assault" rifle?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Not true at all, I want to use mine to commit violent street crimes, just like everyone else!
I had the same thought about the
Barett M82 in 50BMG but thankfully the CA govt stepped in saved us all from the ongoing rampages of $5,000 25lbs rifles being used in crimes. Phew!
Oh and by the way, why are you lefists so stuck up on the cosmetics of the thing? In function a civil AR15 is no different than any other semi auto magazine fed centerfire rifle. Full auto has been illegal for decades now.
Does the pistol grip make it more deadly, or just more deadly looking to ignorant californian women voters?
So its really your side thats wat too much over the top pointlesly obessed with the look of these firearms. :)
Don't forget the all important "deadly" bayonet lug and flash suppressor.
Dern ignorant, self-serving politicians (both Democrat and Republicans, men and women).
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BTW, I bought mine awhile ago because of the pending ban. Made sure any and all mods done were both Federal AND California approved. Why? Because I like it. It's different and fun to shoot at the range. I don't plan to shoot it outside of the firing range.
Kind of why I drive the cars that I do.
Why, 'cause I like it.
Chances are I will be killed or one will be killed by an accident that I'm involved with driving the car than would happen with a firearm. Heck if someone smokes tobacco, much higher probability of dying.
Look at the stats.
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I'll be picking up my 1944 Inland M1 Carbine today. Living in Crook County, I had to spend a day or two just trying to figure out if I'm allowed to own the thing. Appears so. It's generally somewhat immune from the last round of features-style based bans, in that it has the detachable magazine but no pistol grip and no bayone lug (early features).
hey, im all for owning assault rifles. but ADMIT WHY YOU WANT THEM!! i admit that the only reason i would own a gun is so that i could take it down to the range and shoot it.
The funny ones are the guys in cammo, about 60 soft pounds past tactical ops shape, with so much crap on the rails that you can't tell if there is a rifle underneath :)
Never had much desire for an evil black gun. Shooting the M-16 was about like using a pneumatic nail gun... chinck, chinck, chinck... and if you take away the pop up targets the fun factor drops by about 100 percent (YMMV). Plan on going out to the range next weekend and sending my very first battle rifle rounds downrange with the k98k and one of the MNs. Probably the Finn M39. Take the Carbine along for some old school plinking :)
Charon
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I have a very small battle rifle collection. I have to say one of the most fun guns to shoot is the M-1. I don't know why as it is pretty heavy but I get more enjoyment out of shooting it than the M-1 Carbine with back to back 30 rd bananas or my AR 16 National Match. The enfield is a nice shooting weapon as well and has a milder recoil than I expected. The SKS is just a "fun" gun that is good to use for shorter folks and women for whom a short stock fits well. For a regular sized American male it's cut too short for comfort. It shoots accurately enough and is cheap to "feed".
I don't worry about "justifying" my collection. It's my collection purchased for my reasons all of which were and are perfectly legal. Not one of my weapons has been responsible, either on its own or in my hands, for causing any pain death or fear to anyone.
Frankly I see this as a watershed situation regarding personal freedom and responsibility for members of thios "society". If the members of the society cannot be trusted to behave themselves then incarcerate them. If the members at large who DO behave themselves cannot be trusted to do so, then who is qualified to be the caretaker? It cannot be a member of that "society" as they, by definition, cannot be trusted. It must be done by someone outside to the "society" that has the expertise and lack of human failings that would qualify them as proper caretakers of the "pets" they own in that "society".
I myself am not a pet. I will not be treated as one by someone who has appointed themselves as my caretaker and therefore, knows better than I how I should live my life.
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http://www.assaultweaponwatch.com/
wow how dangerous
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I have a very small battle rifle collection. I have to say one of the most fun guns to shoot is the M-1. I don't know why as it is pretty heavy but I get more enjoyment out of shooting it than the M-1 Carbine with back to back 30 rd bananas or my AR 16 National Match. The enfield is a nice shooting weapon as well and has a milder recoil than I expected. The SKS is just a "fun" gun that is good to use for shorter folks and women for whom a short stock fits well. For a regular sized American male it's cut too short for comfort. It shoots accurately enough and is cheap to "feed".
Next on the list is a CMP Garand, and maybe a 1903. Currently have an Enfield No. 4 mk. 1 (1944); Enfield No 5 (1945); Russian capture K98k (1942); Mosin nagant M38 (1944); Finnish M39 (1942); and now the Carbine. Just picked it up. Appears to be original, non rearsenaled, early features mostly matching. Excellent shape. Going to be hard to get any work done today.
Great link Guns. My firearms are so dangerous I have to keep them locked up in a safe so they don't kill me in my sleep.
Charon
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Originally posted by JTs
ah beautiful norco. how the place has changed. lived at 1066 hamner ave until i got drafted in 1970. cowstuff and hay. lol i dont miss that stuff. is the naval warfare station still there?
JT
yes, but it will most likely be disbanded this year.
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Well,
This weekend here in the Detroit area, one of the local towns had a "Dream Cruz". All sorts of old and very cool cars (As some of you might have guessed, Detroit is a bit of a car town).
Well me and the kids are watching these cool cars go up and down main street and what comes past? An M3. That's right a M3. It had 3 50 cals on it and a bunch of kids riding in the back!
Talk about an assault rifle!
I have "Sporting Rifles (assault rifles)" some because they are fun to shoot. I do not hunt with them, just shoot paper targets. I also have 2 what would be called deer rifles (3030, and 3006). I do not deer hunt. I only hunt upland game birds. Does that meen I have to stop buying deer rifles and turn mine in?
Be carefull what you wish for, in America dreams can come true.
I am glad people don't like guns, I'm glad people like guns. I don't like people, that hate people, that have guns and I don't like people, that hate people, that don't like guns.
God Bless America!
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Please define what a real "assault" rifle is?
Is it cosmetics or function that make up a real "assault" rifle?
a weapon that fires shortened rifle cartrages and has the capability of firing them in a fully automatic setting.
but like i said: legalize em. hell! legalize light and heavy machine guns! i am willing to give up some personal safety to hear automatic weapons fired into the air again on the 4th.
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if you guys wanna make this a "lefty righty" thing i have plenty of apt aurguments. and dont you ever insult my state again, that is uncalled for.
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Smidsy,
Except in places like California, a heavy machine gun IS legal. A friend of mine has one, a M-2 Browning HMG (fully auto) with both a tripod mount and pedestal mount for his vintage jeep. I also know of some that have model 1919 Browning 30 cal. also fully auto.
As to insulting California, is that even possible?
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Next on the list is a CMP Garand, and maybe a 1903.
Charon, you better hurry. Last time I was at CMP I bought 2 garands and 1 1903. Their stock of decent Garands is running out and their stock of 1903's is running out also.
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Charon, you better hurry. Last time I was at CMP I bought 2 garands and 1 1903. Their stock of decent Garands is running out and their stock of 1903's is running out also.
That's what I hear. Missed out on the USGI service grades. Probably get a USGI field grade or one of the Greek service grades. Problem is I would like a WW2 era serial no. (which they may or may not pull). I would drive to Perry and get one at the N. Store but it's 5 hrs each way and from what I hear the selection can be hit or miss at the store just like the luck of the draw with the mail option. A nice 1903 with a finger-groove stock is a lot to ask right now, I expect :)
Charon
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I did the drive at 8 hours each way. It was great to actually go over there and pick out the guns we wanted.
The two garands we got were Danish issue. They were kept in fabulous shape.
I have heard just the opposited about the greek issue Garands. They are beaten to hell and have all sorts of crude things carved in the stocks.
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See Rule #6
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See Rule #6, #4
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See Rule #6
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It is becoming quite clear this topic cannot be discussed without posters taking it on themselves to be abusive and/or disrespectful towards others.
Exactly what lead up to the O'Club being shut down before.