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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Hawklore on July 19, 2005, 02:31:41 PM
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Would a soviet soldier be allowed to write an anti-hitler saying on his helmet?
Or was there a law/rule that didn't allow them to desecrate personal property...
I got a good, yet immature, slogan to put on my helmet in cyrllic letters..
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No. And this wasn't an official rule. Just your helmet with letters will be a good, far seen target for a sniper. Because of this, the slogans were on tanks, planes or missiles. But never on helmets.
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Soviet missiles said "Vodka-Inside"
well.... some of their nukular missiles did anyway
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Originally posted by Estel
No. And this wasn't an official rule. Just your helmet with letters will be a good, far seen target for a sniper. Because of this, the slogans were on tanks, planes or missiles. But never on helmets.
The place where I would put these is in the back left corner, thus a sniper wouldn't see it unless he was behind you or you were running away..
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Originally posted by Estel
No. And this wasn't an official rule. Just your helmet with letters will be a good, far seen target for a sniper. Because of this, the slogans were on tanks, planes or missiles. But never on helmets.
The place where I would put these is in the back left corner, thus a sniper wouldn't see it unless he was behind you or you were running away..
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what is the slogan and what is this helmet to be used for?
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
what is the slogan and what is this helmet to be used for?
Helmet will mainly be worn during rain or photos..
Slogan is in russian, let me get it real quick..
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Hawklore/hitler.jpg)
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Originally posted by Hawklore
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Hawklore/hitler.jpg)
"Ghitler Lyoobit noodle";)
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Well, maybe it's just me...
But isn't a slogan supposed to be readable and visible to those you are showing it to?
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Well, maybe it's just me...
But isn't a slogan supposed to be readable and visible to those you are showing it to?
learn rooskii!:D
im guessing that it says "Hitler, go suck a "sucker"
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:rofl
Hawklore, it's absolutely amazing!!! :D
Reminds me about a story that happened during the siege of Sevastopol'. Some sailors fightimg on the ground (marines) made a huge solgan like that (in German) on a hill-side with white stones, so German artillery destroyed it every day instead of shooting at Soviet targets, and every night Soviet "marines" repaired it :)
I suggest this slogan:
(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~uf/Hitler.jpg)
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what do these slogans say? im sorry, but cyrilic is not my strong point.
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I put on my robe and wizard hat
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The first one: "The Hitler loves noodle"
The second: "Hitler, drink the poison."
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Originally posted by Estel
The first one: "The Hitler loves noodle"
The second: "Hitler, drink the poison."
Go with second slogan, the first is too immature and Americanized. No Russian person in right mind would use something like that.
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Ага.... Я от второго чуть кофе по всей комнате не разлил. Там фрицы со смеху как мухи будут помирать.
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Well if your running away you would be shot anyway, so might as well put it on there.
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(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~uf/Hitler2.jpg)
(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~uf/Hitler3.jpg)
(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~uf/Hitler4.jpg)
(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~uf/Hitler5.jpg)
(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~uf/Hitler6.jpg)
:lol
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Originally posted by Hawklore
The place where I would put these is in the back left corner,
You wear a square helmet?:eek: Does it fit?:p
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Originally posted by Boroda
:rofl
Hawklore, it's absolutely amazing!!! :D
Reminds me about a story that happened during the siege of Sevastopol'. Some sailors fightimg on the ground (marines) made a huge solgan like that (in German) on a hill-side with white stones, so German artillery destroyed it every day instead of shooting at Soviet targets, and every night Soviet "marines" repaired it :)
I suggest this slogan:
(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~uf/Hitler.jpg)
that's late 1944 to 45 timeframe right?
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Hawklore, the your slogan can be translated only in medical terms, like "Hitler like make reprouction organ". It's too "intelligent" :) And writing something in "folk language" (mat) probably will make political officers and commanders unhappy. Using written "F-words" was common only on men's room walls. And it could be associated with prison argot.
Frankly speaking - I have never seen any photo or ever heard about soldiers writing slogans on helmets. Using F-words was impossible because of military discipline and associations with prison, and Party slogans like "Long Live CPSU!" could look absolutely insane, and could draw unnessesary attention from "special departments". At least it's how I see it.
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Originally posted by 1K3
that's late 1944 to 45 timeframe right?
Sorry, I try to make a joke at Russian "Livejournal" slang :)
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I already have it carved in my helmet, now I gotta buff it out... :(
It's not that visible..
Mind translating some of your suggestions Boroda?
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Originally posted by Hawklore
I already have it carved in my helmet, now I gotta buff it out... :(
It's not that visible..
Damn, sorry, I didn't mean it! :( Seriously, sorry for that joke...
Originally posted by Hawklore
Mind translating some of your suggestions Boroda?
It's just joking about Russian LJ community slang. Let me think a while how to make it at least a little funny in English...
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Originally posted by Boroda
Damn, sorry, I didn't mean it! :( Seriously, sorry for that joke...
It's just joking about Russian LJ community slang. Let me think a while how to make it at least a little funny in English...
NP I carved in there before I even posted.. :)
It's a joke, hardly visible, just some paint or buffing and it'll come out..
I gotta show it around first though.. :D
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Wait...you carved something into a WWII helmet ?
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
Wait...you carved something into a WWII helmet ?
Negative..
WWII style helmet.
Post War painting and dating..
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And the slogan,
It's supposed to be.
Hitler loves noodle
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I am really sorry for the joke, but as a slogan - even during GPW it could be taken as a kind of joke...
Now I'm at my father's flat, he has Internet access here (a thing I avoid at my own place), so, if you don't mind, I'll mix myself some Mountain Dew with pure ethanol, light a cigarette (only after taking away a bottle of 96% grain spirit!), sit back and try to explain.
It's a "padonki" (scumbags, geeks) style, some stupid expressions with deliberately distorted spelling, like "I spell as I hear". Now it's common in LJ comments, for example, an advise to "drink some poison" means that author ("affthor") have posted something really stupid and abominable. "Affthor, drink some puoison!"
Nest post with my joking slogans:
1) "Hitler - a heellish sotan!" - "Atstskaya Sotona" was a name of a fictional teenage "Suicide Metal" band who recorded several tapes and burned alive on stage during their first and only live concert. http://www.sotona.ru This text was pretty funny when it appeared about 5 years ago, now "Healeesh Sottan" is another "idiomatic expression" showing negative astonishment in LJ comments.
2) "V Bobruysk, zhivotniye!" - I used the name of a German city that sounds absolutely idiotic in Russian (sorry I can't spell it in Latin) instead of "Bobruysk". The phrase means "Go to Bobruysk, you, animal(s)", and means that affthor is a stupid provincial animal, and is too low on a social stage for the society he's talking to. Bobruysk, a small town in Belorussia sounds funny and in this context means some god-forgotten place where people still eat cabbige soup with their bast shoes.
3) "Himmler - to gasenwagen!". "To gassenwagen!" in LJ comments means that the affthor's opinion is too stupid for him to stay alive. It doesn't have any antisemitic meaning. Cultural background is too difficult to explain in short, it's another freaky stuff from 1990s ( Stas Kaschenko, 2:5020/166 ;), my first Fidonet adress was 2:5020/166.12 back in 1993)
4) "KG/AM" :D Abbrievation from "Kreatiff govno/Affthor mudaG", meaning "Affthor is a stupid ass-whole(*)/creatiffe work is a crap!". Standard brief opinion about crappy "creatiFF". What I wrote means: "to bludy Hitler/from sailours" - I just used first letters that make "KG/AM" ("Kravavamu Gitleru/at maryakov"). It's supposed to be written on a 305mm shell from an "October Revolution" battleship :)
5) "Goebbels, kill yourself!" Another kind advise to affthor after readig his stupid "creatiffe" works.
Sorry for having a little fun ;) At least Estel said that the first slogan about poison sounded funny in Russian. You know, we have a "weird sence of humor"...
(*) - I don't mean to circumcise the language filter, I only try to show the "wrong" spelling.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
And the slogan,
It's supposed to be.
Hitler loves noodle
Sorry again, my typing skills are awfull :( Instead of "Hitler like make reprouction organ" I had to type "Hitler likes male reproductive organ" :(
At that times a word "noodle" was known mostly to people with medical education and University graduates who had to learn Latin language.
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I don't mean to circumcise the language filter, I only try to show the "wrong" spelling.
Now, that's destined to be a classic. ;)
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Yeah Boroda, I've been meaning to talk to you about that.
Circumcise - To chop the something off
Circumvent - To go around.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Now, that's destined to be a classic. ;)
:lol
"At that times a word "noodle" was known mostly to people with medical education and University graduates who had to learn Latin language."
Well I am reenacting a russian medic!
And Boroda I appreciate your help, cause if I run into a russian GPW vet, I'd like to know he'd find it funny too.. :aok
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Originally posted by Boroda
:rofl
Hawklore, it's absolutely amazing!!! :D
Reminds me about a story that happened during the siege of Sevastopol'. Some sailors fightimg on the ground (marines) made a huge solgan like that (in German) on a hill-side with white stones, so German artillery destroyed it every day instead of shooting at Soviet targets, and every night Soviet "marines" repaired it :)
I suggest this slogan:
(http://sky1.chph.ras.ru/~uf/Hitler.jpg)
Then thats my explanation for putting it on my helmet.. :)
I love that story, I totally forgot about that one!
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Hang, Lasersailor, I am happy that someone reads my long boring posts to the very end ;)
Hang, please stop telling me that I understand more then I pretend, this time I had to use an online dictionary (http://www.lingvo.ru/lingvo/Translate.asp?LingvoAction=translate&Ln=1&words=%26%231086%3B%26%231073%3B%26%231088%3B%26%231077%3B%26%231079%3B%26%231072%3B%26%231085%3B%26%231080%3B%26%231077%3B&DoNotSave=0&text=%EE%E1%F0%E5%E7%E0%ED%E8%E5&LangPara=1&B1=%CF%E5%F0%E5%E2%EE%E4) ;)
Soviet Army had many non-Russian speaking soldiers, so, pretending that they don't understand orders in Russian was their common practice. I am happy that you can't "teach" me English like Soviet sergeants usually did to Uzbeks ;)
Seriously: very often I don't understand what you, guys, mean :( You need to be born with the language and grow up with it. I am sure that if Miko2d was still here - I could speak Russian (Moscow Argot) to him so he'll be unable to understand what I mean, at the same time understanding all the words, and he emigrated in 1989 IIRC.
To Hawklore: during GPW Uzbeks "traditionally" were tankers because of their "compact" body constitution. After some combat episodes they were all trained to be tank radio-operators/machinegunners. Germans had special people intercepting soviet radio-exchange, and can you guess how many Germans knew Uzbek language? ;) Not as effective in strategic purposes as Navajos, but still nazis didn't have enough specialists in Turkic languages for every tank unit :D
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Originally posted by Boroda
Hang, Lasersailor, I am happy that someone reads my long boring posts to the very end ;)
Hang, please stop telling me that I understand more then I pretend, this time I had to use an online dictionary (http://www.lingvo.ru/lingvo/Translate.asp?LingvoAction=translate&Ln=1&words=%26%231086%3B%26%231073%3B%26%231088%3B%26%231077%3B%26%231079%3B%26%231072%3B%26%231085%3B%26%231080%3B%26%231077%3B&DoNotSave=0&text=%EE%E1%F0%E5%E7%E0%ED%E8%E5&LangPara=1&B1=%CF%E5%F0%E5%E2%EE%E4) ;)
Soviet Army had many non-Russian speaking soldiers, so, pretending that they don't understand orders in Russian was their common practice. I am happy that you can't "teach" me English like Soviet sergeants usually did to Uzbeks ;)
Seriously: very often I don't understand what you, guys, mean :( You need to be born with the language and grow up with it. I am sure that if Miko2d was still here - I could speak Russian (Moscow Argot) to him so he'll be unable to understand what I mean, at the same time understanding all the words, and he emigrated in 1989 IIRC.
To Hawklore: during GPW Uzbeks "traditionally" were tankers because of their "compact" body constitution. After some combat episodes they were all trained to be tank radio-operators/machinegunners. Germans had special people intercepting soviet radio-exchange, and can you guess how many Germans knew Uzbek language? ;) Not as effective in strategic purposes as Navajos, but still nazis didn't have enough specialists in Turkic languages for every tank unit :D
Thats neat Boroda..
I'm trying to learn russian myself, to beter portray a soviet GPW soldier..
Paka-paka...
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well, considering the subject matter (helmet) and Boroda's 'circumcision'..
I may stop breathing, I'm still laffin so hard.
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Then thats my explanation for putting it on my helmet.. :)
I love that story, I totally forgot about that one!
Damn, I have to think many times and re-read what I post between running around our "temple of Soviet science" where I work :(
I meant they wrote something like "Your Fuhrer is a sodomite" in German. What I suggested instead of your sentence in Cyrillic was a joke, and I am really sorry that I didn't make it clear, and, in fact, uderstood my mistake only after re-reading the quote you made now :(
The only thing I can say to excuse myself is that the slogan I posted may give you an advantage against Russian-speaking re-enactors who'll read it, especially if they read LJ (and it's "bad taste" not to have a personal LJ now [like all girls on the RuNet post pictures of their kittens :mad:])...
I remembered this story from Leonid Sobolev's "Sailor's Soul" book (Sobolev was a Navy war reporter), but he didn't mention the exact words for obvious reasons ;) he said only that they wrote something offencive about "fuhrer", but I thought it could be something like you posted.
Please forgive me, I really feel sorry :( My usual condition since Summer came is being drunk or having a hangover, so sometimes I post stuff that not only doesn't make any sence, but may be dangerous, and the worst thing about it is that it may be dangerous not only for me :( I wish I could send you a helmet I have here :( I once stole it from my school when I got drunk in our hiking equipment storage room and it was pouring rain outside... Got all wet except my silly head...
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Originally posted by Boroda
Damn, I have to think many times and re-read what I post between running around our "temple of Soviet science" where I work :(
I meant they wrote something like "Your Fuhrer is a sodomite" in German. What I suggested instead of your sentence in Cyrillic was a joke, and I am really sorry that I didn't make it clear, and, in fact, uderstood my mistake only after re-reading the quote you made now :(
The only thing I can say to excuse myself is that the slogan I posted may give you an advantage against Russian-speaking re-enactors who'll read it, especially if they read LJ (and it's "bad taste" not to have a personal LJ now [like all girls on the RuNet post pictures of their kittens :mad:])...
I remembered this story from Leonid Sobolev's "Sailor's Soul" book (Sobolev was a Navy war reporter), but he didn't mention the exact words for obvious reasons ;) he said only that they wrote something offencive about "fuhrer", but I thought it could be something like you posted.
Please forgive me, I really feel sorry :( My usual condition since Summer came is being drunk or having a hangover, so sometimes I post stuff that not only doesn't make any sence, but may be dangerous, and the worst thing about it is that it may be dangerous not only for me :( I wish I could send you a helmet I have here :( I once stole it from my school when I got drunk in our hiking equipment storage room and it was pouring rain outside... Got all wet except my silly head...
Not a problem..
Slow drinking down, take pictures of your helmet and if I'm interested maybe I CAN buy it off of you.. maybe for a ruble or two. ;)
435 rubles?
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Originally posted by Hawklore
435 rubles?
Not enough to fill it with cheapest decent vodka... :(
Shipping will definetly cost more then buying the same stuff in in the US :( I have a standard SSh-41 probably made after the War.
Good stuff to show your knowlege and understanding: Do you know how many parts it is assembled of? Thirty two. 32. Things ae much more complicated then an average person can imagine. A simpliest thing, especially on a movie screen, turns to be made of 32 parts....
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Originally posted by Boroda
Not enough to fill it with cheapest decent vodka... :(
Shipping will definetly cost more then buying the same stuff in in the US :( I have a standard SSh-41 probably made after the War.
Good stuff to show your knowlege and understanding: Do you know how many parts it is assembled of? Thirty two. 32. Things ae much more complicated then an average person can imagine. A simpliest thing, especially on a movie screen, turns to be made of 32 parts....
Thats cool..
Go back to drinking your vodka you drunk..
:p :)