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Title: New Planes?
Post by: Skydancer on July 19, 2005, 06:21:57 PM
Any likelehood of new planes rather than variations. The new Skins etc look good but it might be nice to see some new stuff.

Like Meteor
(http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/aircraft_images/main_images/meteorf940.jpg)

Or Beaufighter
(http://www.finn.it/regia/immagini/avversari/beaufighter.jpg)

Or Aunty Ju
(http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/ju52-02.jpg)

Or He111
(http://www.waffenhq.de/flugzeuge/he111_10.jpg)

Just a thought
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Furious on July 19, 2005, 06:37:26 PM
We need more American planes first.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 19, 2005, 07:33:13 PM
I read somewhere that they strapped a goat to a P51b once.  I want to see that in before I see non  american planes.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Pooface on July 19, 2005, 07:50:11 PM
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Originally posted by Furious
We need more American planes first.



i really hope your joking:rolleyes:
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Rino on July 20, 2005, 08:25:57 AM
Actually I am getting to the point where I'd like more US
planes.  Fortunately for me, the P-47N is coming soon..phtbtbtbtbt
Title: New Planes?
Post by: SMIDSY on July 20, 2005, 08:43:42 AM
we need the HE-111 before anything else. people have been wanting it for as long as i have been playin AH (goin on 5 years now.)
Title: New Planes?
Post by: rogerdee on July 20, 2005, 09:25:31 AM
he 111 dornier 217 bety bomber all these would be good,but next new plane will proberly be American

id like a pby and a short sunderland or a Henchel 112
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Wilbus on July 20, 2005, 09:27:39 AM
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We need more American planes first.


Thihi, flamer :D

Skydancer, new planes are added regulary. Not just new versions.

At the time though I believe HTC is trying to get new versions out instead of nothing at all since they are busy working with ToD.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Skydancer on July 20, 2005, 10:21:23 AM
Well ToD is begining to sound like a pipe dream. I've heard a lot about it from others but not from the horses mouth. It sounds great but honestly I don't believe it is coming any time soon. Any chance of some news from Hitech?

As for having more American planes, you've got to be kidding? We have at least four or five US buffs. Two from Deutchland, One from UK! One from Japan for example. Thats pure nonsense, or a wind up, to say we need more US planes. Do you realy want to fly in environment where the only planes are from the US come on... :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong the devs of existing planeset are great  so far but spits and 109s need doing.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Magoo on July 20, 2005, 12:51:15 PM
There's a big hole where the P39 needs to be. Make it russian if you need to justify it, but Just make.

If we must have a country over-represented then it damn well needs to be America!:D

All in favor of the P39 (POS that it was) say Aye!

Magoo
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Skydancer on July 20, 2005, 07:14:26 PM
"If we must have a country over-represented then it damn well needs to be America"

Why? Thats plain daft and detremental to the game. Give me a good reason rather than some juve response!
Title: New Planes?
Post by: 1K3 on July 20, 2005, 08:55:24 PM
Our turn is over (US):(
-------------------------------------------------------
To start...

Put some malcolm hood on some  spitfires models.

last but not least...

A complete lineup of 6 SPITFIRES, 109s, and 190s...

SPITFIRES

Spit 1 (with 100 octane fuel)
Spit 5b (+12 max WEP)
Spit F 9 (current spit 9 is a Frankenstein!)
Spit LF 9c OR Spit LF 8
Spit LF 9e OR Spit LF 16
Spit F 14 (+21 boost)

109s

109E-4 (with DB 601N engine)
109F-4 (remove GONDOLAS option)
109G-2
109G-6
109G-10
109G-14 (this is a 109G-6 with MW-50 booost)

190s
(pls remove 190A-5, turn it to 190A-6)

190A-3
190F-3 (1st ground attack variant of 190s)
190A-6 (almost same as 190A-5 but stregntened wings and an option of 4x MG 151s instead of MG FFs)
190A-8 (with BMW 801 TS engine this time )
190F-8 (with BMW 801 TS, 2nd ground attack variant of 190s,)
190D-9

pleeeeeeeease:)
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Rino on July 21, 2005, 01:38:11 AM
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Originally posted by Skydancer
"If we must have a country over-represented then it damn well needs to be America"

Why? Thats plain daft and detremental to the game. Give me a good reason rather than some juve response!


     Two reasons:

1)  Large majority of the player base is in America.

2)  Chess pieces are non country specific.

     It's only detremental to your view of the game there sport.
Of course there is no reason why someone couldn't start a new
online combat flight sim based on a Euro-centric view.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Wilbus on July 21, 2005, 04:51:53 AM
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1) Large majority of the player base is in America.



BLERCH! You gotto be freaking american from the beginning to think like that. Such enormous freaking BS.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: jetb123 on July 21, 2005, 06:28:08 AM
AMERICAN AMERICAN AMERICAN!!11111. *clears throat* I would like to see other planes just not other bombers. Bombers are the most dweebyiest planes in this game. They can disable a whole base. Have lazer shooting guns 1 ping and you got a pw or instant death. BRING ON THE fighters!
Title: New Planes?
Post by: SKJohn on July 21, 2005, 12:18:16 PM
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Originally posted by Magoo
There's a big hole where the P39 needs to be. Make it russian if you need to justify it, but Just make.

If we must have a country over-represented then it damn well needs to be America!:D

All in favor of the P39 (POS that it was) say Aye!

Magoo



AYE!   AYE!  AYE!!
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Skydancer on July 21, 2005, 01:04:51 PM
Ok so are you make it all American guys saying you don't want this game to be played by other people in other countries?

Your attitude sucks.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: me62 on July 25, 2005, 08:59:44 PM
Hey Skydancer, how about a Wellington or Halifax?
Short Sunderland might be cool as well.

Mike
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Rino on July 26, 2005, 01:36:30 AM
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Originally posted by Wilbus
BLERCH! You gotto be freaking american from the beginning to think like that. Such enormous freaking BS.


     Yeah, I imagine that flying AH for a few years leaves me
absolutely no chance to make any observations about the
player base whatsoever.

     I realize that I may have somehow missed the tens of
thousands of swedish players swamping the arena, but I'm
willing to go out on a limb here.  I stand by what I said.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Rino on July 26, 2005, 01:41:30 AM
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Ok so are you make it all American guys saying you don't want this game to be played by other people in other countries?

Your attitude sucks.


     When I start whining about non-American planes being
added, then you can tell me my attitude sucks.  Stomping your
virtual feet and implying you cannot fly because your country's
plane set is not completely represented doesn't impress me
much.

     I have no idea if there is a limit to the number of aircraft or
vehicles that can be added.  In the mean time, I'm going to be
happy with what HTC provides.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Skydancer on July 26, 2005, 02:07:00 AM
Not stomping feet just responding to the all we want is American planes argument. I don't care what country the planes are from. But I do think US aircraft are a bit over represented. The plane set is generaly pretty good, but It if new planes were introduced this is what I'd like to see. Don't try turn this into some daft argument. Likewise  don't use this thread to make dumb "only American planes are good statements " As for your remark about the player base you may be right but think that if you are in the US then when you are playing its likely only to be US players that are on. Timezones anyone!? duh. When you are playing its likely to be gone midnight here in Europe! Come on use that old grey matter. Ok Enough.

Yes A wellington Bomber and an He111 would be good additions.
The reason I suggested a Meteor is that it would be good to have an allied jet to counter the 262. The meteor unless I'm mistaken is the only one to have actualy seen action in WW2. The fact its British is neither here nor there.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Flayed1 on July 26, 2005, 02:13:40 AM
I would like to see the Tupolev Tu-2 added.  It's a nice highspeed (340mph) medium attack bomber with a bomb load of 8818lbs and  20mm forward guns and it's Russian!!
    I think this would be a nice addition to the plane set.:aok
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Skydancer on July 26, 2005, 02:25:31 AM
Yep another Russian bomber would be good. Russian planeset is a bit La dominated.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Loddar on July 26, 2005, 03:25:17 AM
We have a russian planeset ??? :eek:

2 Fighters and 1 attacker isn't a planeset,
especially not for such a big allied nation.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Lye-El on July 26, 2005, 02:13:02 PM
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Ok so are you make it all American guys saying you don't want this game to be played by other people in other countries?

Your attitude sucks.


I don't say that. I think it's pretty cool that people from all over the world play this game and post on this BBS.

Talking to non gamers when it subject comes up and saying that the game I play has people from Russia, Great Britian, Japan, Finland and who knows where else all playing a single game the response is "Really? I didn't know you could do that."

I don't want to "Make it all American." That said, American manufactures did make a wide variety of aircraft with even more variants so there are more to pick from.

Do I think American iron is over represented? Hmmm, perhaps if you count the variants. The basic airframes for the most part were used in large numbers. Sometimes in the thousands.

I can also understand how somebody outside the U.S might feel slighted that aircraft from their country are not available or have fewer choices. A person wants to have their countries aircraft to fly in, at least sometimes.

A British jet, for instance, while unique to Britian, would not see use for the modeling time involved. I have never been able to afford the Me 262. As a novelty aircraft the 262 fills the bill.

The American GV'ers often say "We need a Sherman tank because thats an American tank."  But nobody would drive it once they die in it everytime they get hit and find they seldom can kill any other armor.

I'm sure that as the game progresses other aircraft that show up won't be always American. When I fly it is usually a Spit V unless it's mud moving.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Karnak on July 26, 2005, 03:13:34 PM
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Originally posted by Rino
Two reasons:

1)  Large majority of the player base is in America.

That is not particularly relevant really.  The fact that there are more American players does not mean that American planes are more desired particularly.  It may, but it may not.  The two are indirectly related.

I, for example, would like to see more Japanese, British, Russian and German aircraft.  A squadmate of mine, from Georgia lest my California address paint me badly, likes Japanese aircraft.  Pongo, from Canada, advocates for more American aircraft even though he is Canadian.

The nation we live in does not equal the fighters we like.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Skydancer on July 26, 2005, 05:17:39 PM
true Karnak.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: badcow on July 27, 2005, 02:30:17 AM
Ki-100

Since we already have the Tony, I'm thinking that adding the radial engine to it should be easy enough. I think it would be a popular plane.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Magoo on July 28, 2005, 12:44:33 PM
Some peope don't realize whern they're gettin' thier chains jerked :lol

On a serious note, I wonder if there is a dearth of information on the Russian iron that is affecting HTs ability to build out that plane set? I'm sure we don't have that problem with the american stuff.

Magoo
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Karnak on July 28, 2005, 12:48:21 PM
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Originally posted by Magoo
On a serious note, I wonder if there is a dearth of information on the Russian iron that is affecting HTs ability to build out that plane set? I'm sure we don't have that problem with the american stuff.

If I recall correctly a lack of internal photos stopped the Tu-2 from being added way back around v1.08, v1.09 days of AH1.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: pellik on July 28, 2005, 03:40:32 PM
HTC is an american company and adding any non-american plane would clearly be unpatriotic and strongly sugguest the possibility that HT is a terrorist. The poor performance of the infamous P51, which should be able to go 450 bajillion mph and turn like a zero, already makes me a little suspicious.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Karnak on July 28, 2005, 03:45:32 PM
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Originally posted by pellik
HTC is an american company and adding any non-american plane would clearly be unpatriotic and strongly sugguest the possibility that HT is a terrorist. The poor performance of the infamous P51, which should be able to go 450 bajillion mph and turn like a zero, already makes me a little suspicious.

Hmmm, I think we can see who the real anti-American is here.  :p
Title: New Planes?
Post by: 1K3 on July 28, 2005, 04:11:54 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
If I recall correctly a lack of internal photos stopped the Tu-2 from being added way back around v1.08, v1.09 days of AH1.


I hope this one is "acceptable"

Pe-2 Internal (blue prints)


(http://airbase.ru/alpha/rus/p/pe/2/img/pe2_ch_1.jpg)
Title: New Planes?
Post by: FuBaR on August 01, 2005, 01:58:40 PM
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Originally posted by Furious
We need more American planes first.


good one :aok

My squady and I hope to see more italian planes in the future...no specifics at the momment from me.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Seagoon on August 11, 2005, 04:22:17 PM
Ah well, the old, planes we need vs planes we want problem.

The planes we want get people to play and keep 'em happy, the planes we need improve the game and will be vital for TOD.

For instance, I am NOT looking forward to a historic, mission-based simulation where the Germans and Japanese capture bases using the C47 and the M3 - sigh.

Also would one Italian plane capable of dropping a bomb be too much to ask? ;)

- SEAGOON
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Karnak on August 11, 2005, 04:28:57 PM
Well, the Japanese at least had license built DC-3s being used as troop transports.  The Allied code name for them was "Tabby".
Title: New Planes?
Post by: frank3 on August 12, 2005, 08:25:33 AM
roflol on the 'we need more american planes'

I go with the idea of seeing a goat strapped on the pony first.
Title: New Planes?
Post by: slimm50 on August 12, 2005, 01:24:57 PM
We don't more "hanger queens".
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Soulyss on August 12, 2005, 02:00:51 PM
Well done Furious.

:)
Title: New Planes?
Post by: WindX on August 12, 2005, 05:55:19 PM
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
we need the HE-111 before anything else. people have been wanting it for as long as i have been playin AH (goin on 5 years now.)



I couldnt agree more, That was the first airplane model I ever built and have loved it ever since. It would be a great addition to the plane set!:aok
Title: New Planes?
Post by: Ted Strykker on August 12, 2005, 06:49:47 PM
Aunty Ju


The correct term for that aircraft i thought was Iron Annie.