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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Vulcan on June 20, 2001, 05:24:00 AM
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Now this is the graphics WWIIOL should have had... what a kick arse game!
Just did a cool mission in it. Came out a forest to a road, I hear a tracked vehicle so I take cover (luckily I'm wearing a gillie-suit (spelling?)). A BMP pulls up besides two soviet troops who had been following a road.
Damn, I can't resist it... I pop the guy in the commanders turret, he slumps over dead. The gunner quickly pulls his head and the two troopers take cover near some woods. The BMP floors it and scarpers out of the area. Luckily the two troopers didn't get my position, I finish them quickly.
I jump up and run across the road for the woods... I can hear armour roaring up the road behind then a huge BANG. I just about crap myself as I dive down. Christ a T-80 is hunting me. It skirts the woods, crushing the smaller trees on the edge making a hell of a racket. I sit tight, he can't see me. I wait, damnit, another BMP turns up to help the T-80. I can hear troops up on the road. I edge south out of the woods, into bushes, crawling all the way...
Man this game has got ATMOSPHERE and I don't need 512Mb's to run it.
Mark my words... it may not be netbased yet - but just LAN games will be nirvana.
Heh, and I haven't even gone for a ride in a Blackhawk yet :)
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Originally posted by Vulcan:
Mark my words... it may not be netbased yet - but just LAN games will be nirvana
yes i think same, its no competition for ww2o because
the lack of massive online part, but it could be fun for privat lan partys :)
Gh0stFT
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Is there a website for this game?
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is there any online or h2h ability in it?
Eagler
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I especially like the advanced damage modelling...'life bar' á la the average side scrolling shooter from '85. ;)
But really, it's an enjoyable game, even with its relaxed physics model.
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Yeah OFP rocks, but it will never replace WW2OL. Even when they implement dedicated server support, with perhaps 30 people max like Half Life, nothing beats WW2OL.
There's noting like flying from Cambrai to Dinant, and passing several tank battles, trucks ont the road, infantry and at-guns in the trees, and of course passing numerous other planes on your way, and finally get to your destination and engage in a huge furball with ground battle beneath you.
But I love OFP too. It will be some great infantry battles ala Rogue Spear type fighting.
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I just finished testing it for a review here in Spain... this game definitely rocks.
The European version looks a bit rushed... no russian missions or campaign, some small flaws in HW acceleration with T&L, and the netcode still needs some optimization.
The good news for all you US guys is that the US version will have better netcode and dedicated server support (and a patch for european users ;) )
So far I've played 4 player coop via TCP-IP and it ran quite well (some small jumps when driving a jeep).
As for the relaxed flight mode... what can I say. It's true, but since there's no joystick support as of now, my guess is that the flying aspect of the game will eventually improve.
Flying an UH-60 NOE or looking for targets in an A10 is really an experience :)
I could tell some stories that sell the game themselves... for instance the other day I was in a Shilka and a Cobra got me with 2 TOWs, so both the driver and I had to disembark. I saw my driver running for the trees and I thought "what the..." and sure enough, the Cobra turned around for another pass, saw me, and I was history" :)
Definitely one of the best games I've played in a long time.
Daniel, aka Cyrano
PS: If you have questions about the game, don't hesitate to ask. My copy is valid another 20 days, so I'll make the most of them (until I got my retail copy, that is ;) )
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I agree that FP is a g-r-e-a-t game, period.
However, I dread the word 'rushed' for obvious reasons...I hope we can download an upgrade to make the euro version on par with the US version...
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I was going to preorder OFP but will now wait until they get things cleared up and optimized. I've been reading about that netcode, and it appears they kinda just slapped that in there at the last moment. Since I'm only interested in online play, I don't think the Euro release is for me. 4 player with warps... I'll wait.
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Vulcan, sent you a private message.
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Originally posted by Jammer:
I agree that FP is a g-r-e-a-t game, period.
However, I dread the word 'rushed' for obvious reasons...I hope we can download an upgrade to make the euro version on par with the US version...
That's for sure...
Another advantage the US users will have is that by September you'll be able to find zillions of great user-made missions both for offline and online play thanks to the great mission editor that is bundled with the game.
About the netcode... well, having experienced Counter Strike lag/warps, AH lag/warps, etc... I don't think that the "jumps" I saw were warps, just some sloppy coding when rendering the next frame of the jeep when it's turning.
When flying or as a soldier on foot I didn't see those jumps.
Still, if you live in the US, I would advise to wait for the September release, you'll have a more polished product by then.
One great thing about OF is that you don't experience that "oh, but it's just computer AI" feeling that you get after playing online games, and that's one reason to buy it if now if you live in Europe. And the 8 player multiplayer mode. And the mission editor. :)
Daniel, aka Cyrano
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Originally posted by fscott:
I was going to preorder OFP but will now wait until they get things cleared up and optimized. I've been reading about that netcode, and it appears they kinda just slapped that in there at the last moment. Since I'm only interested in online play, I don't think the Euro release is for me. 4 player with warps... I'll wait.
OH...MY...GOD...
Thats so fukin ironic, I'd have to slap 3 dozen guys in AH that said that about WWIIOL.
Does anyone else maybe, just find the comments from the "WWIIOL head-giving cheerleader, fscot" a bit kinda tarded? :)
[ 06-20-2001: Message edited by: Creamo ]
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Originally posted by Creamo:
Does anyone else maybe, just find the comments from the "WWIIOL head-giving cheerleader, fscot" a bit kinda tarded?
Ooo ooo ooo me! me! I do!
(http://cwm.gamerforums.com/s/otn/happy/wave.gif)
-SW
ps: Quick like a FOX!!!!
[ 06-20-2001: Message edited by: SWulfe ]
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Your quick, and hense it was modified. OK, same result. :}
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It takes all kinds of people to make up this world. Thank God we have this BB to make fun of each other. :D
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If I'm the head cheerleader, then perhaps I better find another job, cause I suck at it.
I don't see what's so ironic about it. I am not interested in 4 player LAN. I don't have a LAN. And even 8 player internet does not interest me. I won't even attempt to play single player either. I am only interested in 20-30 player internet on dedicated servers.
I don't see what's so hard to understand. I'm enjoying 1000 player combat with WW2OL. How are they at all related?
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I was going to preorder OFP but will now wait until they get things cleared up and optimized. I've been reading about that netcode, and it appears they kinda just slapped that in there at the last moment.
Boy, that sure reminds me of WW2Ol... except I think the entire game was "just slapped in there".
-SW
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Well here's the difference. I like WW2OL. But I'm not too keen to single player OFP. Yet, it will be good when internet support comes around.
I can play as many varied missions as I want right now with the OFP demo, but I haven't touched it in like 3 weeks. It just doesn't appeal to me in single player mode.
Plus, OFP is an entirely different game than WW2OL. You can't even begin to make statements that OFP is better than WW2OL or vice versa. If so, then I can say Tetris is a better game than AH.
[ 06-20-2001: Message edited by: fscott ]
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fscott on the defensive.
False start, 5 yard penalty.
Repeat 2nd down.
-SW
ps: he was commenting on WHAT and HOW you said it... not about the two games.
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Well, ok I still don't get it. Such is life.
OFP is not good enough with just 4 or 8 player internet for me to buy it now.
OTOH, WW2OL is good enough for me to buy/play despite the numerous bugs and crappy code. Why? Cause I love ww2 stuff. And it's fun. Just basic fun.
Does that make sense now, as to why I can wait to buy OFP until they get dedicated server support?
[ 06-20-2001: Message edited by: fscott ]
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Fscott, OFP is something I can enjoy NOW. Without a huge ram upgrade, or banging my head against all the other crap in WW2OL.
What they have released is something working. The LAN and single-player side rocks.
They say they will release dedicated server support (with larger numbers) in September . WHEN ITS WORKING.
The graphics rock. The AI rocks. The terrain ROCKS.
Look at the FE on this and this is what WW2OL should have been like. Look at the arena/net play of WW2OL and this is what OFP should get!
This games engine has serious potential. Whereas WW2OLs engine has serious problems. See the difference?
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Ok let's put it this way...
When OFP sells in the States, FScott will probably buy it.
When WW2Online sells in Europe, I will probably buy it.
By then both games will be great multiplayer fun, for sure! ;)
All friends now? :p
Save the martial spirit for the game guys, not for the board ;)
Daniel, aka Cyrano
[ 06-20-2001: Message edited by: CyranoAH ]
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I agree 100%. OFP rocks all to hell and back. But in it's current state, I'm not interested at all. I'll buy it when it has dedicated server support and 20+ players.
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lol kids! :D ;)
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Heh wwiiol loads faster in W2K than in WinME, At least in my computer. Win ME 2min 30sec and in W2K 15secs faster :confused: :)
[ 06-21-2001: Message edited by: Staga ]
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I got Op Flashpoint in front of me, not installed it yet
And you WWIIOL cheerleaders, go away and spoil some other thread ;) :cool:
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By the way, I'm designing a couple of missions, I'll let you know when they are ready in case you want to try them out!
Of course, I'd be delighted to try any missions you guys want to share! :)
Daniel, aka Cyrano