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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Ted Strykker on July 20, 2005, 04:37:38 PM
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The N model 47 is totatlly awesome.
It will stall fight without having too use the Uber Dweeb Flaps.
Fubar complained that HT and company ruined the 51's and 47's.
I say he's smokin crack.
It's HT's world we are just flying in it.
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what about the flaps?
now what did they go and change?
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You don,t need the flaps anymore.In the other models when you were on a 47's 6 you could see them deploying flaps .
With the N you don,t need too do that.
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With the N you don,t need too do that.
Uh if anything that would be the dweeby thing about them.
Btw, I can promiss you you will need he flaps, just wait ;)
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It will stall out at 67 MPH
It is Plain N.A.S.T.Y.
Dive Flaps
427 MPH at 20-K
N.
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:aok :D :aok
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Why did you add's fubars name to the post?
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When i got the new patch earlier i dipped into the TA too test the N model out,and all i seen was Fubar doggin HT and the rest of them for ruining the 51's and 47's.
Do you go too the doctors office with him and hold his hand when he has too get a shot?
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Ted get off my back please. I have the right to my opinion and to express it. I can see you disagree ,but please do not attack me for your own amusment. And stop trying to pick a fight with me, I dont have any problem with you and am unaware of any you have with me. Id be glad to listen to any you might have though.
Dont flame me for "dogging" the planes for what I think HTC did in my opinion. As for the crack statment...a very intelligent way of downgrading me for seeing things differently than you.
Fubar
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So... you post others opinions? Can you post one of mine some time? I dont know you. I never see you in the game. I already dont like you for making this comment: "Do you go too the doctors office with him and hold his hand when he has too get a shot?"
I was in the TA and he was not "complaining" he was giving his opinon. Apparently you dont play much or go to the MA often because you would have alot more post's then 120 because there are alot more people truely complaining on channel 200 then giving an opinion like Fubar was.
I guess I am "smoking crack" if thats even possible, because I dont agree with you that I should go around posting peoples fake opinions you create and make lame comments like the one I quoted from you Ted because i asked a question. Pass me the pipe and keep the lame jokes to yourself. :)
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Ding Ding Ding What do we have for him Johnny?!!!!!!!!!
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Thank you for not adressing me Ted... I see you have no reason or problem with me,ya just wanted to make a statement and post it.
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Originally posted by Ted Strykker
Ding Ding Ding What do we have for him Johnny?!!!!!!!!!
You must be "Tool #1", no?
Karaya
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gotta love all the new "tool" accounts popping up the last few months...
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You must be "Tool #1", no?
gotta love all the new "tool" accounts popping up the last few months...
So you guys must be the Old Tool's?
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Can't fly the N crashes the game! And the D40 and the Osti!
Kind of wish they'd test the updates a bit more. Keeps burgering up the game!
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Fubar... in what way were the P51's and P47's messed up in your opinion? Reason I ask is that I haven't tested them yet and would be interesting to hear why they are no badly modelled.
Is it graphic wise or something else?
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I can't even get in the MA - then when I try to quit it just crashes my puter. Not sure what the deal is but it aint good! Was kinda anxious to fly the N!
Clip
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Clip, do you have a software firewall? You might have to allow AH to access internet again after updating to 2.04.
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Where this plane is saposed to be "NASTY" does me no good. 20K+ is rediculous. Big deal.
If it did 800mph at 40k I still would fly it no higher than 10k.
TO me its a slower, fatter, P51.
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Slower, fatter P51 maybe Morpheus. Turns great, rolls nicely specially up high and has a superb acceleration. It's also capable of carrying heavy loadouts and it's got a radial engine, meaning no anoying radiator shots. 8x50 cal with 3400 rounds. SUPERB RANGE! 50% fuel keeps you flying for 30 minutes in the MA. Add a DT to that which you drop when you engage in a fight and you got a very maneuverable plane.
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^what Wilbuz said.
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Originally posted by Ted Strykker
You must be "Tool #1", no?
gotta love all the new "tool" accounts popping up the last few months...
So you guys must be the Old Tool's?
Wow, you are quite the intellect. Peep the "born on Date" to the left.
Masher
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The climb rate not great about 1k to 1 1/2k per minute. about the same as a B26. Seems to handle better than other 47s. and it can dive to at least 540mph and still stay in control. Top speed low 15k or lower is not great but at 30 k its suppose to do 470mph. Trouble is it might take u 30 minutes to get to 30k.The eight 50s like all the 47s makes a big difference compaired to 6 50 set ups of others and can kill almost as quick as a twin 20mm plane. The roll rate is also seems improved. It also can carry more fuel so u should never have to carry a full load of fuel. If u like 47s you will like this plane. Acceleration seems to be like all 47s. (slow unless diving)It might be faster but felt like the others to me. It can carry the same bomb load as 47/40.
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Originally posted by Clip121
I can't even get in the MA - then when I try to quit it just crashes my puter. Not sure what the deal is but it aint good! Was kinda anxious to fly the N!
Clip
I know you've already read and done this....just a refresher for those who haven't that might help....
Aces High II Version 2.04
NOTE:_ AH2 requires DirectX 9._ If you are using an older version of DirectX, you will need to upgrade._ Go to http://www.microsoft.com/directx to update.
AHII will encounter problems and graphic anomolies when using out of date video drivers._ Visit the website of your graphics card manufacturer to get the latest drivers for your graphics card.
AHII will automatically download custom plane and vehicle skins while you are in the game._ The first time you encounter a new skin, you may get a momentary stutter as a new cache file is generated for that skin._ Once the file is generated, you should no longer experience a stutter for that particular skin._
If you experience stutters caused by sounds being played in the game, you may need to update your sound drivers and/or reduce your sound acceleration._ To reduce your sound acceleration, select Run from your start menu and type
"dxdiag" in the Open field._ This will launch the DirectX diagnostic program. Click on the Sound tab._ You will see a slider labeled Hardware Sound Acceleration Level._ Reduce this level to Standard acceleration._ Further reduction may be necessary if the problem remains.
_For further help please see the help file, visit our message boards at
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/defaultframe.html, email us at support@hitechcreations.com,
or call us at 817-251-1540 9am-6pm CDT Monday through Friday.
This might be a good beginning point for your crashes...
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I see the P-47N becoming an arena favorite if only for fuel duration alone. That thing can carry a TON without having to use hardpoints for drop tanks. Plus it dives like a beast and can hold up to 3200 rounds of .50s. Oy vey. It's a pretty nice package.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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I meant with out wep. With wep speed is awesome for 5 minutes.
climb rate goes to 2 to 2 1/2 k a minute
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Where this plane is saposed to be "NASTY" does me no good. 20K+ is rediculous. Big deal.
If it did 800mph at 40k I still would fly it no higher than 10k.
TO me its a slower, fatter, P51.
Actually it's a pretty good bird vs the pony...I didnt lose a single fight to a pony (all on the deck) last night. Obviously alot of variables come into play but it'll certainly hold its own even right on the deck vs pony....
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the 47N seems to me like it is a FM2 on steriods. I like it. :)
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Originally posted by onions4u
The climb rate not great about 1k to 1 1/2k per minute.
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I meant with out wep. With wep speed is awesome for 5 minutes.
climb rate goes to 2 to 2 1/2 k a minute
What did you do to it? Test it with full fuel, 2,500lbs of bombs, 10 rockets and your gear and flaps down?
With 50% fuel it was climbing about 3000fpm at 10,000ft for me.
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ok 326w/o wep 364 with wep sea level 8 guns heavy ammo no ords
359 ---------- 400 10k
375----------- 419 15k
Test off line started with 50 % fuel
climb rate eariler was with 75 % fuel and 10 rockets and 1 drop tank.
Just saying with wep its awesome. but without wep just a p 47
took it up with rockets and 2 1 k bombs climb rate a little over 1k
no wep.
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off line test 50% fuel auto take, off climb rate to 15 k 8 guns heavy ammo
no wep 2k to 2.1K
with wep 2.9 to 3.2k
wep make this a super plane just don't run out
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Dang It, fubar! You are letting me down man! I've been waiting for the Ol' fubar statemant: DA NOW! what happened to that! :p
Now give me a, "DA NOW!!!!" to him,
lol!!! doitdoitdoit! lmmfao!
Ahem..... And yes, it is HT's world, but! we buy our little piece of land from HT and make payments monthly. So in many ways we are investors in this "world" and HT is the developer/landlord. :eek:
We as a whole, have made this game what it is today, we have provided HT with very valuable input over the course of the development of the game, and enjoy doing so. From bugs to new ideas, that improve and increase the playability and fun for everyone. ok 98% of everyone. :)
Its well known by most of us that, with every update there is those problems that make for exstreme discussions or "remarks" from people that notice something "different" has occurred or changed. Expressing these things is how HT and crew figure out how to improve AH and make it playable for all. Some of us just express our imput in different ways is all.
We expect no less from our fubar, he does it his way, others do it their way .
Fubar means no harm, he's just a little more aggressive sometimes with his remarks. So to help, I sent fubar one of those tapes that relax you, you know the ones that say: relax, its ok, feel the cool breeze on your face, your in a relaxed mood, be calm, kick back drink some tea. Now WAKE UP FUBAR ITS A DREAM!! There was no update, you were dreaming Fubar!!! your back in AH1. then hes all better. SEE!! All better now hehe!!
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fubar...bashing HTC over there Radio Text bar shows no class at all..
If you have any constructive critisizm..Post it..WITH FACTS..or send emails..
Yelling over Text to other players saying..:"theses planes Suck..blah blah blah"
only does one thing..hurts HTC..public image
Does it do any good ?...no
Woudl it help alot if you posted facts or concerns..yes
Your stepdaddy needs to spank you
I think the N is kikazz
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
fubar...bashing HTC over there Radio Text bar shows no class at all..
If you have any constructive critisizm..Post it..WITH FACTS..or send emails..
Yelling over Text to other players saying..:"theses planes Suck..blah blah blah"
only does one thing..hurts HTC..public image
Does it do any good ?...no
Woudl it help alot if you posted facts or concerns..yes
Your stepdaddy needs to spank you
I think the N is kikazz
does the term *broken record* mean anything to you? How many threads have you jumped to HTCs public image defense?
And all this junk you type about facts and such...prove to me im hurting HTCs image.
I will consider you clicked on wrong thread though giving you the benefit of the doubt.
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Originally posted by Ted Strykker
You don,t need the flaps anymore.In the other models when you were on a 47's 6 you could see them deploying flaps .
With the N you don,t need too do that.
that utterly sucks
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Originally posted by FuBaR
does the term *broken record* mean anything to you? How many threads have you jumped to HTCs public image defense?
And all this junk you type about facts and such...prove to me im hurting HTCs image.
I will consider you clicked on wrong thread though giving you the benefit of the doubt.
Dont bite on his slimy watermelon dude. Let it be. He and it aint worth it. :)
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
Your stepdaddy needs to spank you
I AM Fubar's stepdaddy...
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:eek:
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Can't fly the N crashes the game! And the D40 and the Osti!
Kind of wish they'd test the updates a bit more. Keeps burgering up the game!
Might want to turn that around and look at your own system. There were so many Ns in the sky last night you couldn' count them. Flew it once myself with no problem. Still don't like 47s though.
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Btw Humble. Its still just "ok" in my book. Not that that means anything to anyone. I'm just saying. I would rather take a 51. Every time I jump in a 51 after being away from it for a long period of time I ask myself why I stepped away from it. Sadly most of the pony drivers now just run. They dont understand that it is a nasty turning plane when you get used to it. When they do turn, they dont last long.
The 51's got speed on the deck. It may not acel as good as all the others, but it turns like a wet dream with 50% fuel... The 6x50's have always done me fine as well.
I love the Jugs. IMO the D11 and the D25 are two of the baddest planes around. The N is nice but I doubt it will be my main ride. It lacks the speed on the deck I like with the 51. Also, I know the 51.
Yeah, maybe the N turns well, rolls well acels well up High. Big deal. It wont do me any good on the deck, or below 10k where I fight. Oh yeah... the range thing... The 51's got that too. :)
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Originally posted by Morpheus
The N is nice but I doubt it will be my main ride. It lacks the speed on the deck I like with the 51.
365 vs 367 is lacking the speed on the deck?:eek:
That said, it is not a P-51 and if you are used to P-51s, well, then the P-51 is obviously better for you.
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I agree with the D11 and D25 comment Morph, I do think the N lacks the ability to hold its own in a down and dirty fight like those 2 can. The person playing might change that though.
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Originally posted by DieAz
the 47N seems to me like it is a FM2 on steriods. I like it. :)
Yep, sorta like Lance Armstrong's Wildcat.... ;)
My regards,
Widewing
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You cannot understand till you can "run" from a P51, or "catch" a D9 in a dive.:cool:
Now u can all go back to the LA7 and wonder why the P47N sucks.
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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
There were so many Ns in the sky last night you couldn' count them. Flew it once myself with no problem. Still don't like 47s though.
I may try out the N, but the Jug and I are not quite a match. I liked the -40 model, but all in all I died too much in it. I would expect simular results in the N.
I think many people will try it because it is new, then back off to their old rides. I would however hope that some stick with the N model to increase the number of Jugs in the MA. It is always nice to see other rides than the standard LA7, Spittie, G10, Dora and Pony stuff. (It may be me, but I seem to be seeing a lot less of the NIKI, but that may just be me)
All in all, I am flying the 109F4 now, and I am liking it quite a bit, even though I am only 3:1 in it at this time. I expect my K/D to pick up a bit once I get used to it. The F4 is a LA7 killer for sure if they try to chase you down, just drag them out and kill them if they try turn with you. :aok
Will the N outturn the LA7?
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I doubt it, not much out turns the La7. You could probably dump speed off a lot faster than the La-7 could and try for an overshoot/snapshot though. Good luck fighting one once the speed drops down to flap levels though... the P-47 (like the rest of the U.S. rides) lacks the acceleration to do more than turn small circles slowly and pray.
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Originally posted by Urchin
Good luck fighting one once the speed drops down to flap levels though... the P-47 (like the rest of the U.S. rides) lacks the acceleration to do more than turn small circles slowly and pray.
The acceleration is a big factor in MA fighting.
I don't think it was as much an issue in WW2 as pilots were trained to fly as cohesive units of 2 and 4.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Btw Humble. Its still just "ok" in my book. Not that that means anything to anyone. I'm just saying. I would rather take a 51. Every time I jump in a 51 after being away from it for a long period of time I ask myself why I stepped away from it. Sadly most of the pony drivers now just run. They dont understand that it is a nasty turning plane when you get used to it. When they do turn, they dont last long.
The 51's got speed on the deck. It may not acel as good as all the others, but it turns like a wet dream with 50% fuel... The 6x50's have always done me fine as well.
I love the Jugs. IMO the D11 and the D25 are two of the baddest planes around. The N is nice but I doubt it will be my main ride. It lacks the speed on the deck I like with the 51. Also, I know the 51.
Yeah, maybe the N turns well, rolls well acels well up High. Big deal. It wont do me any good on the deck, or below 10k where I fight. Oh yeah... the range thing... The 51's got that too. :)
Having had Mane hand me my oscar a few days ago (I was la-5 he D pony) there is no doubt that the pony flown right is very formidable. But at that level I dont know if plane type matters...put Mane in the lala mini and me in the pony and would the resulsts have changed ... probably not:)....
But I was pleasantly suprised that the N gave me "3D" capabilities on the deck (with wep) far beyond what I would have expected...that gave me the ability to "outfly" the other guy more than I'd have had in the D-40 or maybe even D-11.....
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Got into it with an F6 last night on the deck. I'm not sure who it was in the F6 because I was blasted apart by 8inch maned ack.... I was obviously a threat to that CV ya know..:rolleyes:
Anyways, the N faired pretty well against the F6. Had the fight gone on Im not sure how it would have ended.
On the deck, yeah... Its an OK turn fighter. Up high, I'm sure its a beast. But I still dont care about that. Takes too long to climb up to that alt only to be alone with noone to fight.
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I did some on-the-deck fighting in the 47N last night against higher F6s. Pretty equal fighting. Decision will come down to fuel loadout and pilot skill.
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What do you say we all just fly the Dora, forget the allied planes. :aok
Except for the P51 B of course.
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Wasn't that impressed. I imagine with more time, maybe some small special abilities will be made known, but for now it's just another jug.
Frenchy and gang. Fun fights the other night. G10 holds pretty well in a 4 on 1 N fest. :cool:
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I can understan dyour just a young kid ..imature at times
And I will always Defend HTC when random drive by crap talking is done with no facts
So you think typing on text that HTC ruined the P51s is good ?
Ya ..that does alot of good...lolololol..
classic fonzanoon
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
I think the N is kikazz
Only because i completely pwnd you in it.
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If my being a young kid is my reason for being "immature* then whats your excuse?
And when did my age become a factor in my opinions of a game I play? Does my being younger make me less of a person than you or soemthing? You should realize that no matter what age someone is they are still just as important as you think you are.
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JB42, good target practice:aok We need more like you, others are too easy to gang bang.
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Originally posted by Ted Strykker
Ding Ding Ding What do we have for him Johnny?!!!!!!!!!
Well Ted! ( by the way my name is really Johnny )
first we have a warning, Spade please do not use vulgarity in the TA when someone offends you or is not playing YOUR way, report the problem to the trainers, they will handle it quickly, Sir.
next up, if one insist to do so, they will be MUTED!
if this is not a sufficient prize, then we can award an eject for up to one hour.
Now, had the teleprompter been a working you would have received these prizes the other day, for your abusive language, please follow the rules in the TA.........
we do not like to give these kind of prizes out , but will if need be........
on with the game!
I was there, I heard all the complaining about HTC ruining the P51's and the P47's from some of the people in this thread and it seems to be all hogwash to me, that P47N is an Awesome bird, hope they don't tweak it too much ( or detune it)
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This thread is lame now.
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Originally posted by Enduro
This thread is lame now.
I dunno, TC just PWN3D!##!!# >>><<< TC!#!@#@! That was pretty entertaining:p
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Originally posted by Enduro
This thread is lame now.
Hes right :rolleyes: