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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nefarious on July 21, 2005, 10:30:44 AM
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Ive been working in the Dietary Department of a Large Nationwide Nursing Home since May of Last Year.
Today is my last day. Two Weeks ago, I put in my two weeks when I found a new Job. Having been frsutrated that I was in this posistion from the beginning, I finally found a job somewhat related to my college degree.
I didnt mind the Job really, It was real close. And I enjoyed the atmosphere for the most part. Its the first time, I ever worked for a large corporate entity.
Our Nursing Home, like most others, is funded by Medicare and Medicaid. Although some people pay there own money to live there, these people are usually well off and can afford a private room, for a little less than 5,000 a Month.Other people dont have the money, and VA benefits or SS/Medicare/Medicaid pay there way, or at least a large portion of it.
When it comes to Healthcare Im pretty liberal, But after a Year there my views have changed drastically. Some people need to be there, others dont. This free ride stuff has got to stop!, Most of the free-loaders are morbidly obese. They are in fairly good health, except for the fact they are severly overweight.
We have a 37 year old Male, that is pushing close to 600lbs, His doctor put him on a 1500 Calorie diet. He refuses to abide by the diet. He will refuse the 1500 Calorie Meal and ask for the Regular Meal, but only after he eats what he want on his first plate. Id be willing to say he eats at quadruple his reccomended caloric intake every day. Then he comes to me and asks me what I reccomend he should do to lose weight.
Id be willing to say, that this is going on all over the country. The Morbidly Obese are using there problem to fleece the government every day. They are waited on hand and foot, They dont even have to get out of bed. Instead they make demands on how and what they will eat, They use the bathroom in bed and demand the Aides to clean them. If they dont want to help themselves they need to go home and lay in there own bed and use there own money to get someone to wipe there butt.
Sorry for the long rant, but I just wanted to inform you on where your tax dollars go. Straight into the hands of Corporate Suits that run Americas Nursing Homes, which is hardly seen by the hard working people who staff them. Which in turn only hurts the people who need continous care. I cant help to feel sorry for the elderly, Menatlly Handicapped and Physically Handicapped, who are forced to live there, when other people who by there own doings have deemed themselves handicapped because of poor eating habits.
I will continue to visit the Nursing Home, I have made plenty of friends there. I bring my History Books over to a man who served with the 10th Armored in WW2, and there are others who I will miss. But Beyond that, Im glad Im finally the hell out of there!
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I hate it. Being fat is not a disease. It's a choice.
While I think that some people do need help (non surgical help) they should not be taking the money that other people who do not have a choice are sick with something worse.
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I agree.
And same with smokers. Health benefits for them should be terminated. They should have to bear the cost for treatment of smoking incduced illnesses and cancers.
If they cannot? Too bad cause no one forced them to "light up." It was thier choice to make themselves ill and/or "terminal"
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Originally posted by Nefarious, lasersailor184, Westy
It's a choice.
65% of americans are overweight, 31% are obese, almost half of those are children. You want to deny all of them necessary healthcare?
Honestly, we need some laws to make all people healthy and force them to make right choices. Heil to communism! :rolleyes:
Anyways, statistically, since I'm of healthy weight, two of you are overweight and one is obese... Hey, make the right choice, or Nefarious will endup wiping yer butt in some nursing home :rofl
PS
Healthy people get 20% off their coffins price when the time comes, invest those savings in medicare. Problem solved!
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When I said choice, I mean it was a choice that made them fat, it's a choice that can get them better.
Like mitch Hedberg used to say.
One of these sentences doesn't fit.
"Damnit john, you're an alcoholic!"
"Damnit john, you have lupus!"
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Originally posted by Westy
I agree.
And same with smokers. Health benefits for them should be terminated. They should have to bear the cost for treatment of smoking incduced illnesses and cancers.
If they cannot? Too bad cause no one forced them to "light up." It was thier choice to make themselves ill and/or "terminal"
cool, I pay health insurance for 30years and since i puffed for awhile it should be terminated. while your at it cut out hemmaroid coverage for those who sit and ***** on bbs's
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Yup.
"cut out hemmaroid coverage"
Hallelujah to that one too.
After we start with all these we can continue cleaning house. We can set our sights on people who drink a lot. And after them we hunt down the people who sunbath for melanoma.
(p.s. No. I'm not a cold hearted neo-con who could care less. Not saying anyone here is either mind you. But what all these people need is help. Mental help at that and positive support. And while I'm not religious in the least I just can't think of turning my back on someone because they made bad choices - unless they absolutely refuse to change.)
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You will never get health care costs under control until you get civil litigation over health care under control.
Want to get rich? Stuff yourself with cholesterol. Go see a doctor. Ignore what the doctor tells you. Keep stuffing until you have a heart attack. Sue the doctor, and win $6M (that is what a couple of insurance companies consider an equitable amount to settle health care cases for). Easy money.
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only the good die young :p
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
You will never get health care costs under control until you get civil litigation over health care under control.
Want to get rich? Stuff yourself with cholesterol. Go see a doctor. Ignore what the doctor tells you. Keep stuffing until you have a heart attack. Sue the doctor, and win $6M (that is what a couple of insurance companies consider an equitable amount to settle health care cases for). Easy money.
I'm cursed with a ridiculously fast metabolism. I can't gain weight. What else are my options?
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Shoot yourself then try suing the gun companies?
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Dunt know if that would work or not. I do know the medical thing will as I sat as a juror on a case in which that is exactly what happened.
The lady had a heart condition, refused exercise, refused to take her medication, refused to follow her diet (she had fajitas, french fries, nachos, and beer at Chili's the night of her heart attack).
I was the only one of the 12 who refused to give in. There were people wanting to give her $20M!
But, after two days of deliberating, the judge called us out and let us go. Seems the insurance company settled and gave her $6M.
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Originally posted by Nefarious
I bring my History Books over to a man who served with the 10th Armored in WW2, and there are others who I will miss.
My father was a tanker in the 10th Armored. Combat Command B. Assigned to Team Cherry during the Battle of the Bulge.
There is a 10th Armored Website your friend might be might be interested in. http://www.tigerdivision.com.
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I bet the insurance company was scared that you were actually deliberating in her favor.
I never quite understood what goes on in there. Is it a 100% vote for yes only? Or can you drag out deliberation as long as you want?
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I dunt wish to hijack this thread laser. Quick answer (if you want more then start a new thread please), the judge gives the jury its charge (both sides and the judge agree to it in a prior meeting). This defines how it all will be sorted out.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
I was the only one of the 12 who refused to give in. There were people wanting to give her $20M!
But, after two days of deliberating, the judge called us out and let us go. Seems the insurance company settled and gave her $6M.
The sad thing is I know you're not joking :(
I can't even begin to understand why the other 11 would decide the way they did in the first place. If you don't mind, what were the reasons? People must have some very strange decision making processes... or the prosecutor was batting .916 when he made his picks. She doesn't deserve anything other than another heart attack.
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Nefarious,
Thanks for your service and your informative write up; I had no idea. Good luck at your new job. What field, BTW?
eskimo
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Well, its over.
Monday I start as the new Proofer at a Homes and Land Magazine Franchise which handles all of WV and Parts of MD.
BigHorn, Im not for not allowing Healthcare for Obese People. Im for not allowing Healthcare to those who refuse to help themselves.
As for Wiping peoples butts, That wasnt my job. But dont forget, youll be old one day. And unless you have kids that are nice enough to take care of you in your own home, chances are youll be in a bed, with a catheter and sitting on a bed pan, In an understaffed and underpaid Nursing Home. Where you will be ignored and left to suffer in your own excrement. While some Overwieght Fatty, Laughs all the way to the bank.
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"While some Overwieght Fatty, Laughs all the way to the bank."
LOL, WTF are you talking about? Granted, getting so big that they can't care for themselves is rediculous, but "laughing all the way to the bank"? You think they go to sleep every night going "oh yeah, I've got it made!"?
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Originally posted by SOB
LOL, WTF are you talking about? Granted, getting so big that they can't care for themselves is rediculous, but "laughing all the way to the bank"? You think they go to sleep every night going "oh yeah, I've got it made!"?
Yes.
They live there free of Charge, Three Hots and a Cot. Entertainment albeit bland. Cable TV, A/C, Laundry Services, Help at the Push of a Button. They worry of Nothing except maybe there health.
They make requests for certain foods and if we cant deliver to say, They have filed complaints with State Surveyors. They are nothing but fat ignorant slobs. They take advantage of the system, Ive even seen them verbally degrade my coworkers.
Sorry, but this has irked me for too long. I replied in a State Survey regarding WV Nursing and Rehabiltation Centers, concerning the treatment of Staff by certain residents. Unfortunatley nothing can be done, The Dollar beats the well being of the Comapny's Employees, Meaning, The Company would rather hold a patient/resident than an employee.
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This is interesting enough that I think your local news station would run a story on it, if you approached them the right way. They love a moral question/fleecing dilemma.
But, I’d hate to see SOB’s future lifestyle get screwed.
eskimo
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My best friend's wife is the assistant administrator at a nursing home. She made him promise never to put her in one.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
This is interesting enough that I think your local news station would run a story on it, if you approached them the right way. They love a moral question/fleecing dilemma.
But, I’d hate to see SOB’s future lifestyle get screwed.
eskimo
Not enough to risk looking "mean" towards a "suffering minority of the population."
Bottom line for wieght loss: Eat less than you burn. Period. Not hard to understand. Not exciting, doesnt sell books. But it works.
Biggest problem in US diet isnt too much carb or too much fat -- really, its just too much. Average serving sizes have skyrocketed in last 20 years. The French eat richer foods on average, but much less quantity than US residents.
I go thru this 20 times a week -- and most everybody i advise on this says "but I dont eat that much...."
I jsut wanna scream by Friday some weeks...