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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Maniac on March 22, 2001, 02:54:00 PM
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Take an look here (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
http://lists.ient.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000300.html (http://lists.ient.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000300.html)
Regards.
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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
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Looks like a cartoon, don't it MG? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I have to add that i have never ever flown an buff in either WB´s or AH, and this is the first time i feel like flyin one (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I think in an couple of versions HT will have implemented custom skins...
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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
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Well, uh, it was a cartoon painted on the plane.....
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Outstanding.
And the cartoon on those really sweet looking bombers is, well, a cartoon, yes. And really nice.
How come the pilots heads look like pilots with hats and headphones? I thought they were supposed to be immersion killer goofy blocks with a triangle nose. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Dont take Rips fishing bate, it smells funny hehe
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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
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Damn right I can complain about it.
One of the reasons that I left WB was because of the idiotic decision to add the B-24 instead of the Lancaster.
"Hmm, lets see. We can add a bomber that is significantly different than the B-17, or we can add an aircraft that is American and essentially just a B-17 in different clothes. Lets add the American one, that way it wont offer anything new to the game!"
Yeah, great idea.
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!
Sisu
-Karnak
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Players of a cartoony sim complaining about the cartoony graphics of another sim.
You guys are sooooooo goood (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Lem
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Lem, in case you've been on another planet, that was an MG statement. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Lemsko!
Greetings to JG-3 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Hows that 70% reality working out lem.
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I don't think I would talk cartoons at this point Lem. Little work to do, but great start.
Aces High F6F
(http://members.tripod.com/vmfapache/images/ahf6f.jpg)
Warbirds F6F
(http://members.tripod.com/vmfapache/images/wbf6f.jpg)
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As I understand things, the reason the B-24 was modelled was because it was partially done when iEN took over Warbirds. So, rather than start a bomber from scratch, they simply finished the B-24. Makes sense to me.
The planes that HT has decided to model hasn't exactly been appealing to everyone, either. I'm still waiting for a Ki-43. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Give and take I guess.
Kekule
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I hope they get flight models adjusted..
graphics doesnt really impress me in general.. but I like more varying and smoother height changes and airfields which has dirt runways and are not as visible as those are in AH. (AH = big platform where is sticked up some buildings which are very visible and acks are in middle of bullseye)
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Since the Lanc was primarily a night bomber and there is no usable night, plus the fact that the great percentage of players are American kind of leads me to believe that the B-24 was a good choice.
To say nothing of stats like this:
The Lancaster III has 1903 kills and has been killed 3303 times.
The B-17G has 3709 kills and has been killed 4540 times.
Looks like the Lanc isn't the most popular bird in AH either.
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Shit you guys are too much... *shakes head*
I really hope life will djump upp and bite you in the bellybutton real soon..
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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
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Well, personally I think the guy did a helluva job painting the skin. That's no small feat. Remember guys, the end user didn't create WB3... they are just hoping it's as good as iEN is hyping. So you shouldn't talk smack about their work, it's very nice. Kind of like the skins being done for B17II, it's pretty much a beta that we had to pay for (B17II).. but the users sure can make perty skins.
-SW
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Here is another one I took:
http://users2.ev1.net/~mpiaustin/unomas.jpg (http://users2.ev1.net/~mpiaustin/unomas.jpg)
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eye candy is nice, fm is 2.76.
So much for HS statement that we were gonna see something extreme, something we wouldn't be able to understand.
He seems to forget that while he is a programmer, there are people out there in the world, and here, with degrees in physics and aeronautical engineering who know a helluva lot more about the theory than he does.
When they get the FM up to par with AH, it will be a serious threat to AH. But if they keep using 2.76 fm, with the horrible roll inertia modelling, I think it'll appeal mostly to WBII'ers or old WBII'ers.
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Baron Claus "StSanta" Von Ribbentroppen
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
"You filthy piece of distended rectum! DIE allierte schweinhund!"
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Hotseat isnt a programmer.
He is an Engineer.
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StSanta, you have no idea of what you are talking about.
BTW, which WB Flight Model version does AH use???
Cabby
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Here we go again (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) WB-Weenies defending their sweet little game (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif).
BTW when do they transfer the game from mars to earth, or was it another planet which had a purple sky.
AH RULZ (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif).
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Quote:
AH RULZ
About says it all.......
Cabby
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I can see why the community between Warbirds and WWIIOnline get on so well, reading some of the post between Killer and HS recently and some from Mo over at CRS, shows signs of the good relations they have with one another.
All I see here is the squeaking of stupid little childish insults of completely irrelevant nature (I'm sure you'll defend some of the issues with of the MG's saga) but that not defeating the issue is it?. You complain about how one sims looks cartoonist and how one sims looks porked, but you fail to look upon your own with its own graphical and flight data differences, sure I understand Aces high uses its own individual systems to produce there own game.
Baal did a great job with the B24 there was no need to squeak about it, all who did are very cruel, and if I need to squeak yes im sure I can show you the differences between Aces High and Warbirds closed beta shots of the B-17G and you can see which is more cartoonist where I already shown over in AGW.
There is a lot of bad blood over here and feels like I'm a human walking through a unknown planet only not noticing the aliens lurking behind the scene waiting to pounce on me to rip me a new one,(yes I know that here and AGW have there own Aliens).
Can we not bury the hatchet and get along, I enjoy reading boards here as there are some good informative posts.
I have flown Aces High from the beginning from when it entered its first open beta and watch it evolve to something quite interesting a fun looking sim, though I don't fly it anymore due to personal preferences with Warbirds, but I don't come over here with a club in my hand and start bashing the first positive thing I see.
One thing I love to see is the what I call the BIG 3, having WW2Online, Warbirds and Aces High all together under one conference roof for a great Con, it would be great. but now I posted that statement, I cant wait to see all the negative posts talking about it wont work where they havent even considered of thinking about it or even considered trying it, If I had the financial backing behind me I would make one such event possible.
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Call me crazy, but I don't see any insults in this thread. All I see is a couple of che.. err sim proponents who felt the need to respond to some polite criticism. I saw a joke by Ripsnort which was not criticism of WBIII at all. And some balanced comments by guys who compliment some of the WBIII work.
I guess maybe Karnak's comment about the long-ago decision to add the B-24 was insulting ("idiotic" was his term), but I don't think it's worth getting riled up over. It was the Mo regime that added that plane anyways, so it's no slam on the great Hotseat SAE and his cohorts.
I think one of the big problems between the two sim communities is the guys who feel the need to cross-post comments about one sim to the other sim's BBS, in order to stir up controversy, and then come on to that board telling people how to act. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
And PS Cabby, Santa does know what he's talking about in this case with regards to roll damping and inertia. I'm sure Hotseat will fix it in the future. The WB2 FM is a mix of HT/Hoof/HS and I think HS has said a few times that WB3 will allow him to redo the whole thing to a higher standard.
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Totally agree Funked.
And Belgar I agree the planes Artwork is incredible (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) and I a big Flightsimmer con would be great we had 1 in europe last year and from all I heard it just was great. Couldn't make it myself there last year (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif).
IMHO WB3 do has a lot of potential, I just don't like it at it's current state. AND PLZ somebody convince IEN to get that Quakie purple sky fixed (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
But what should i think about people who come here claimin' that people they prolly don't know are talking about something are talking BS.
and then...
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AH RULZ
About says it all.......
Cabby
Well maybe he missed that smilie that was added, anyway it was meant as a provocation and he fully stepped in.
no hard feelings here but (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Maik
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"AND PLZ somebody convince IEN to get that Quakie purple sky fixed "
My WBIII sky isn't "Quakie purple". It's a deep blue with streaks of high, white cirrus. So what needs fixing?? It sure aint the WBIII sky.......
Cabby
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If you have never seen a lavender sunset, I suggest making a trip to the un-polluted countryside, somewhere with mountains. That is by far the best rendered sky I have ever seen in any type game.
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I wish you WB guys would would recruit a few more members for your cheerleading squad...it's getting boring reading the same 2 or 3 guys. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
bowser
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WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE'RE DOING HERE Bowser? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Funked your CRAZY!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Seriously, has anyone done some calcs on Roll inertia/Speed/Stick forces?
Just curious cause when WB2.73? IIRC was released there were real life pilots on both sides of the argument.
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replying by email (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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That is some damn nice skin. It's the very posterchild for customizable aircraft skins. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
These AH vs WB flamefests always crack me up. Its funny as hell watching people get all bent out of shape when someone thinks his sim of choice--whatever that may be--has been dissed. Oh, children, children. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(http://www.jump.net/~cs3/sigs/uns_sig.jpg) (http://www.jump.net/~cs3)
^^ who flies both sims and is looking forward to WB3
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I dont get the skin game at all. The Army went to no small amount of trouble to teach us how to not draw attention. Camo training, dont wear after shave in combat, that sort of thing. The "Im special, shoot me first" art work, sounds like a real bad idea to me.
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The "Im special, shoot me first" art work, sounds like a real bad idea to me.
If you're a soldier it's always a bad idea. But it was different with planes in WWII.
The US bomber fleet was sending up huge groups of bombers together against a foe that had lost air superiority. No need to bother adding extra weight to the planes by painting them olive, and all the fancy colours used on the different BG and FG planes were mainly a recognition aid to ease the task of formation building, additionally it boosted ego.
And previously to the natural aluminium finish used late war, the invasion stripes were added to every allied AC that was about to fly over continental europe. Also not very hideous markings - but they probably prevented some friendly fire accidents which were as dangerous as enemy engagements.
Az
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with some Wb and AH people i see at this
board, we will NEVER! have a united (EURO)-con when they are onboard.
i like both(2.77&1.06) and i pay for both!
but the future is WW2ol or Wb3.
i hope to see all of the "normal" pilots from the eurocon last year. was hell of an fun (was 1 of 2-3 with AH in middle of 30+WB pilots).
..but i hope to see some peoples NOT!
wastel
JG3"Udet" WB
9./JG54"Grünherz" AH
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Habicht how can you say future is either ww2ol or WB3?
Aces High has developed at a double rate compared to those two.
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Ok I couldn't let this one go.
First of all, when I posed a question on AGW a few months back and asked former AH and current AH and former WB pilots to help differentiate the flight models between the two Sims, the response was surprising to me.
Basically, there are slight differences in FMs but not enough to say whether one is better then the other. Who knows which FM is correct?
Secondly, HS has stated over and over again that WBs FMs are in pretty good shape, the damage model needs work. What they did do for 3.0 from 2.76 or 2.77 is redo the physics model so that more surface area is being modeled (at least that is how I understand it).
So bottom line, FMs are a toss up, some features are better in AH, some in WBs. The key to me, is which SIM comes out with the best STRATEGY for simulating aerial combat, everything else is a toss up IMO.
I have no idea what these companies are thinking along the STRATEGY lines.
Ram1
Originally posted by StSanta:
eye candy is nice, fm is 2.76.
So much for HS statement that we were gonna see something extreme, something we wouldn't be able to understand.
He seems to forget that while he is a programmer, there are people out there in the world, and here, with degrees in physics and aeronautical engineering who know a helluva lot more about the theory than he does.
When they get the FM up to par with AH, it will be a serious threat to AH. But if they keep using 2.76 fm, with the horrible roll inertia modelling, I think it'll appeal mostly to WBII'ers or old WBII'ers.
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Easymo:
The purpose of the skins are two fold.
1. You can create your own skins for offline use to just play around. You can make some interesting and funny pictures that way, but when you fly online all the other players see the default skin.
2. The main purpose is to develop a set of skins that are authentic replica's of the WW2 Squadrons. Once IEN approves the skin it can be placed in the library, so now when you fly and your whole squad selects this skin you are all flying the same one. This means that only your squad or who ever else wants to download the skin will see it. The opposing side will see the default skin, unless IEN changes that.
For example, the 31st Fighter Group has adopted the authentic Red and White striped tail design for the P51D (Yes, its the one that looks like a Candy cane, but its authentic (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). We had the artwork done and then got IENs approval for inclusion into the game hopefully at the full WB3 release.
There are many great graphic artists floating around this community. They can do wonders with this stuff.
Hope that helps.
Ram1
Originally posted by easymo:
I dont get the skin game at all. The Army went to no small amount of trouble to teach us how to not draw attention. Camo training, dont wear after shave in combat, that sort of thing. The "Im special, shoot me first" art work, sounds like a real bad idea to me.
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Squads huh! Hey, a gang bang warning on the planes sounds good. I take back what I said.
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Who knows which FM is correct?
Me, and the answer is neither. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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"the answer is neither"
Exactly!
Yet..... many of the AH community will scream the AH FM is superior to WB from day 1 dispite all the changes it went thru.
I guess all AH versions were 100% accurate since beta. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Pro & cons to both. I can list a dozen things the WB FM has that AH lacks. You will rarely see a WBer "put-down" the AH FM. But you will often see an AHer "put-down" the WB FM. What does that tell you? Tells me one community is either more informed or more mature than the other.
PS: Ram1, the striped tail of the 31st FG P-51 may be authentic "looking" and Soul did a great job on it, but not as authentic as my New Addition (http://www.furball.dogfighter.com) mustang. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Hehe, just jaggin ya. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
"Original paint samples were used from the war....."
Official "authentic" Blue baby! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Skybax
328th Fighter Squadron
www.352ndFighterGroup.com (http://www.352ndfightergroup.com)
"Blue-Nosed Bastards of Bodney"
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It would be an great addition to the UBB if the author of each new topic had the ability to lock the thread...
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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
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I can list a dozen things the WB FM has that AH lacks.
With all due respect, no you can't.
Tells me one community is either more informed or more mature than the other.
Comments like that are why we still have problems between the two communities.
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Originally posted by sky_bax:
I can list a dozen things the WB FM has that AH lacks. You will rarely see a WBer "put-down" the AH FM. But you will often see an AHer "put-down" the WB FM.
LOL, Sky, first off, I don't think WB's has modeled compressibility buffet and transonic drag to the flight model. Secondly, it was WB's that cast the first stones of FM bashing back in Jan. of 2000 when a few in the WB community went out of their way to slam AH FM, forgetting that indeed this sim had to transgress its FM by tweaking it, something that Pyro and HT said they'd be doing.
Now, I realize just about every poster from WB in this thread has a vested interest of some sort, Lem, yourself, Ram1, etc. all have their hands in the pot over there, so naturally you're going to 'defend' your sim from 'misinformation'...the same that I did on AGW. Shoes on the other foot now, ain't it? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)...
And funked is correct, my comment about 'cartoonish' was directed to MG, not the WBIII sim...the pics I have seen seem distorted, some models are not scale, but I understand it is beta. I tried AH .34 but only for a day since it was beta too...took about 3 or 4 releases before I spent any amount of time flying it. I'm sure WBIII will transgress the same way.
People are going to post their feelings about FM's, Graphics, etc. and there is nothing you can do to change what 'they percieve'.
With that being said, good luck with WBIII, looks like it has potential.
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Originally posted by sky_bax:
You will rarely see a WBer "put-down" the AH FM. But you will often see an AHer "put-down" the WB FM. What does that tell you? Tells me one community is either more informed or more mature than the other.
Right, those ignorant & immature AH crybabies and their FM bashing. There are dipshits in both communities who will argue endlessly about which sim is better for no reason other than to say "my sim is better than yours" or "my community is better than yours".
The truth is, the sims are different in some ways and similar in others and when it comes right down to it, your opinion is what makes the difference when choosing which to fly. And the communities are all made up mostly of guys who have an interest in WWII, particularly in WWII aircraft and like flight sims. How different could they be?
SOB
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Well said SOB
As a warbirder I like AH, and think it's pretty cool. Currently one of the only things keeping me in WB is I'm used to it after 3 years, and early war rides...a6m2, p40, 109e. As AH progresses which it's doing quite often since the beginning, I may come over here to play. Just depends ya know.
narsus
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Hey Narsus you damn vulchin bully!
The one I'm missing is the Bf 110C. On the first couple of days of the RPS, that is the KingKongMasterblaster B&Z ride. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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well said SOB.
we ALL have the same hobby!
in AH, i miss my RPS (109e-4)
in WB, i miss my 30mm in 109g6
at a (EURO)CON, only thing i miss is...
err, WHO DRUNK MY BEER????????????????
wastel aka habicht
addiced to BOTH sims
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Who knows which FM is correct?
For me, the one that allows a Fw190 to change roll direction instantly, instead of lasting for 1-2 seconds.
That is, AH.
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<S!> SOB!
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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
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Here is another of Rogers excellent paintjobs(I made the terrain by "filling" the green with off whites).
http://users2.ev1.net/~mpiaustin/efju52.jpg (http://users2.ev1.net/~mpiaustin/efju52.jpg)
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R4M:
Don't understand your issue. You sure easymode wasn't on? 190 has no roll rate problem in Warbirds, its a twirling devil.
Ram1
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Ram1.
Easy mode off, all settings to the highest realism. And the WB's Fw190 roll inertia feels worse than that of a slow P38 in AH. Go figure.
The 190 lasts 1 second before changing rollrate direction. In AH it does it almost instantly. in real life it did it too.
Not in WB, tho. IIRC this was done on purpose to avoid "warp roll" or whatever that was called. Here in AH I've never seen a 190 warping while rolling (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
The day that the WBs rollrate inertia is fixed then I'll give it a serious online try. I promise (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Never found an issue with the roll on all 190s on Warbirds and AH, both very precise and instant.
Maybe you got some deadband or a worn joystick issue R4M?
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Hmm, I run some tests on WB 2.77 FW190-A8 vs AH FW190-A8 and time it...post tonight the results.
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"For me, the one that allows a Fw190 to change roll direction instantly..."
We talking about piston-engined WWII fighter-planes here or fly-by-wire F-16's???
Cabby
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I too find WBIII very unresponsive to stick input compared to even earlier versions of WB, not just AH. I've seen a few threads over on AGW regarding stick problems, including filtering, dampening, etc. I wonder if some of us are seeing something most aren't?
bowser
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Just some dink testing I just finished...
Platform:
PIII 550E Intel,256kRam PC-100,GeforceII Pro-32meg.
Software:Aces High Version 1.06R1
Plane Type:FW190A8 50% fuel, 4X20mm+2X13mm
Element:Wind off, 2000 ft. elevation, Clouds OFF
Engine/Aircraft details: 350 MPH,No wep, clean,auto-trim off,no rudder input.
Test parameters:
2 X rolls time in seconds:
1st test:2 rolls at 6.3 and 6.43 seconds per stopwatch.
2nd test:2 rolls at 6.33 and 6.39 per stopwatch.
Notes:Planes nosed dropped alittle more than Warbirds, seemed center of gravity was forward slightly.
Platform:
PIII 550E Intel,256kRam PC-100,GeforceII Pro-32meg.
Software:Warbirds Version 2.77
Plane Type:FW190A8 50% fuel, 4X20mm+2X13mm
Element:Wind off?, 2000 ft. elevation, Clouds OFF.
Engine/Aircraft details: 350 MPH(converted from KPH),No wep, clean,Easy mode OFF,no rudder input.
Test parameters:
2 X rolls time in seconds:
1st test:2 rolls at 6.82 and 6.85 seconds per stopwatch.
2nd test:2 rolls at 6.90 and 6.86 per stopwatch.
Notes:Planes nosed dropped alittle but Aces High model dropped more.
Conclusion: Aces High FM rolls slightly faster, however, as a number it looks comparitively similiar, but as a reflex our eye and hand coordination can detect small minute senses as this, thus Rams 'feeling' of being slighly doggish in a roll as 'human sensory perceivable'.
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Damn. I've been missing out on Skybax yelling from a street corner again?
-Westy
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Feelings now, eh? I do not think that the computer technology, much less your finger on a button is accurate to within 2/10ths of a second, to say nothing of innate bias(not that you have any, Rip, but the variable remains).
I would think that your results are a statistical tie. The main question is what this has to do with screenshots?
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Nice work Rip1. Can't argue with data.
R4M, any comments now on the roll rate issue? Its not that much different as I suspected.
Ram1
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Originally posted by Ram1:
Nice work Rip1. Can't argue with data.
R4M, any comments now on the roll rate issue? Its not that much different as I suspected.
Ram1
I dont complain about roll RATE itself.
I DO say that the roll inertia is too high. Last time I tested was in 2.76, and the plane felt like an slow AH P38L.
Re read my post, I say that the plane lasts too much to change roll directions. Once in a roll, the plane rolls quite fast, no problem with that, but if you try to roll to one side and change direction of roll in a moment, you can't.
In AH you can do it. In RL you could do it aswell (the 190 was a noticeabily unstable plane on the roll axis with notably low roll inertia).
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Exactly my findings...once you get it rolling it seems normal. The problem is responsiveness to stick input. For example if I throw the stick left, there is an abnormally long delay before the plane starts to roll. I've experimented with dead zones, dampening, etc. with no improvement.
I'm sure there is no problem on most systems, but if you're really trying to find bugs, you have to consider the possiblity the problem does exist on some systems for whatever reason.
bowser
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Oh Ok, I understand better now. Will try it out when I get a chance, but not sure I would know what is the correct amount of time for changing direction in a roll.
It would seem that it would take some time to change direction but I have no data to say one way or the other.
Thanks for clarification.
Ram1
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I saw the first couple of posts in this thread and am so burnt out on this old debate that it's hard for me to muster up a good insult for warbirds. I'll try to come up with a good one and post it later.
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Ah, hell. Sturmovik beta should be out soon.
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leonid, Kompol
5 GvIAP VVS-KA, Knights (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)
"Our cause is just. The enemy will be crushed. Victory will be ours."
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Originally posted by bowser:
Exactly my findings...once you get it rolling it seems normal. The problem is responsiveness to stick input. For example if I throw the stick left, there is an abnormally long delay before the plane starts to roll. I've experimented with dead zones, dampening, etc. with no improvement.
I'm sure there is no problem on most systems, but if you're really trying to find bugs, you have to consider the possiblity the problem does exist on some systems for whatever reason.
bowser
I forgot to mention this in the test notes, but I didn't think it was applicable to the tests I conducted. Incidently, I had the stick deadbands all on 0.