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Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Gunslinger on July 27, 2005, 10:37:32 PM
I just got done watching "over there" the new series that premiered on FX channel tonite and it left me wondering.....Did hollywood run out of TV actors?

Some of them were good and convincing because they looked like regular people put into a crappy situation.  The rest looked like hollywood actors that got turned down for extra roles on JAG.

In addition the writing/dialog was terrible.  I was really disappointed.  

The spoiler they showed of the rest of the season looked better than the entire pilot eppisode.

There were definatly some things that were true to life in the military.  

The idiot LT
The cheating wife

I really hope this season get's better.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 27, 2005, 11:07:28 PM
In the writer's conference room:


Writer One:  Did we forget any stereotypes?

silence

Writer two:  Yeah, why don't we bring in some water melons!

silence

Writer One:  You idiot...

pause

Writer One:  there aren't any watermelons in Iraq!
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Gunslinger on July 27, 2005, 11:46:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lasersailor184
In the writer's conference room:


Writer One:  Did we forget any stereotypes?

silence

Writer two:  Yeah, why don't we bring in some water melons!

silence

Writer One:  You idiot...

pause

Writer One:  there aren't any watermelons in Iraq!


yup I'd say that's dead on balls accurate.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: rpm on July 28, 2005, 12:44:08 AM
I was less than impressed. Definitely not Steven Bochco's best work. Absolutely has room for improvement. Altho, I thought Eric Palladino as Sgt. "Scream" was one of the bright spots.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Gunslinger on July 28, 2005, 01:01:40 AM
Quote
Originally posted by rpm
I was less than impressed. Definitely not Steven Bochco's best work. Absolutely has room for improvement. Altho, I thought Eric Palladino as Sgt. "Scream" was one of the bright spots.


yea I liked him if he'd had better writers.  Some of his lines were way cheazy
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on July 28, 2005, 01:06:22 AM
It was a heck of alot better than I expected it to be from the advertisements.  I thought I'd get some cheezy one liners and some RL video out-takes thrown in here and there.  It has room to improve, but I spent the entire hour watching TV.  Thats something for me.  I'll give it a chance.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: GtoRA2 on July 28, 2005, 01:09:18 AM
yeah not impressed.

was it the quarter back poor kid that lost his leg?
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: rpm on July 28, 2005, 01:59:26 AM
Yup, 22 TD's last year...
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Raider179 on July 28, 2005, 05:54:33 AM
Only question I got is why watch that when you can watch the real thing. Check out Gunner Palace for a good video on life in Iraq.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Pooh21 on July 28, 2005, 06:27:14 AM
I watched a south park rerun.

edit: it was the one where cartman gets the town rised up over mel gibsons the passion, that was some funny ****.
Title: Re: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Krusher on July 28, 2005, 07:16:13 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
I just got done watching "over there" the new series that premiered on FX channel tonite and it left me wondering.....Did hollywood run out of TV actors?

Some of them were good and convincing because they looked like regular people put into a crappy situation.  The rest looked like hollywood actors that got turned down for extra roles on JAG.

In addition the writing/dialog was terrible.  I was really disappointed.  

The spoiler they showed of the rest of the season looked better than the entire pilot eppisode.

There were definatly some things that were true to life in the military.  

The idiot LT
The cheating wife

I really hope this season get's better.



I wasted an hour of my time watching it.  I should have believed the review the Iraq vets gave it in the Seattle times.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 28, 2005, 09:19:05 AM
Yeah, the moment the dude said he got a scholarship for football, I said he was gonna lose a leg.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: BlueJ1 on July 28, 2005, 05:50:54 PM
Didnt like it at all.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: rpm on July 28, 2005, 06:07:03 PM
Michael Cudlitz ("Bull" from Band of Brothers) is going to be on next week's episode. Pilots are seldom anything close to the rest of a series. Different writers, directors, ect., will change the look and storyline. I'll give it a few more before pulling the plug.

Considering this is the first TV series to depict soldiers while we are at war with the enemy since Gomer Pyle USMC, I think they've made a good start.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Charon on July 28, 2005, 06:10:14 PM
It just seems wrong to me.

Charon
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Gunslinger on July 28, 2005, 06:20:48 PM
The one line I did like from the show was when Sgt. Scream was esplaining why they werent goin to bomb or take the mosque.

"He said to the effect that there is an AL Jazera News crew in there with the enemy and some General 75 miles away is deciding how best to procede with out making the US look bad on TV tonite.  Bad PR is bad for the war.  Hell of a way to fight a war huh?"
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Wolfala on July 28, 2005, 06:26:19 PM
Got a torrent link?
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: DREDIOCK on July 28, 2005, 06:28:24 PM
There was one good line.

"We didnt come here for your oil.
We came here to kick your arse"

Hollywoodish yea.

But it IS after all just a tv series

Coulda been better. coulda been worse
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Gunslinger on August 03, 2005, 10:45:25 PM
anyone planning on watching it tonite?  I am Tivoing it because I'm going to be layed up the next couple of days but I figure I will at least watch something other than the pilot.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: FiLtH on August 04, 2005, 12:58:51 AM
Seemed to me the Army was portrayed as a bunch of unmotivated, untrained, draftees. Definately Hollywood. I walked after the first 20 minutes or so.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: rpm on August 04, 2005, 01:47:41 AM
Unmotivated? I did'nt get that at all. I thought it was a pretty realistic cross section of a military unit. You have some slackers, some stupid, some squared away and some lifers. What about the wounded guy that wanted to get back to his unit?
I thought they picked it up a notch scriptwise.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Gunslinger on August 04, 2005, 02:02:29 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Unmotivated? I did'nt get that at all. I thought it was a pretty realistic cross section of a military unit. You have some slackers, some stupid, some squared away and some lifers. What about the wounded guy that wanted to get back to his unit?
I thought they picked it up a notch scriptwise.


yup I have to agree RPM.  I really liked this eppisode.  Especially the fact that they didn't try to gloss over the civilians getting killed yet they didn't make the GIs look like blood thirsty animals either.  Pretty good balance.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: rpm on August 04, 2005, 02:11:27 AM
I think Erik Palladino is great as the Sgt.  Best role I've seen him play.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Wolfala on August 04, 2005, 02:44:10 AM
Torrent anyone?
Title: Re: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Mustaine on August 04, 2005, 08:43:50 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
The cheating wife
not to go off on a tangent...

call me old fashioned, a prude, whatever.

nothing IRK's me more than a woman who cheats on her husband while he is serving our country.... well nothing IRK's me more than the guy that cheats with that wife.

talk about the total slap in the face, disrespect to the country, you might as well piss on a flag while taking a **** on the constitution. that's about the ammount of respect a cheating wife of a service man is showing.

if you are to self centered, and without any bit of self control that you have to sleep around, GET A FREAKIN DIVORSE before the soldier leaves.

ok rant mode off
Title: Re: Re: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: GtoRA2 on August 04, 2005, 11:29:38 AM
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Originally posted by Mustaine
not to go off on a tangent...

call me old fashioned, a prude, whatever.

nothing IRK's me more than a woman who cheats on her husband while he is serving our country.... well nothing IRK's me more than the guy that cheats with that wife.

talk about the total slap in the face, disrespect to the country, you might as well piss on a flag while taking a **** on the constitution. that's about the ammount of respect a cheating wife of a service man is showing.

if you are to self centered, and without any bit of self control that you have to sleep around, GET A FREAKIN DIVORSE before the soldier leaves.

ok rant mode off



LOL watch out, you going to get a bunch of dudes that are going to try and justify cheating with, all kinds of BS reasons....

Cheaters are skum, men or women.

If you cant keep your word to the person you married you are a worthless ****.
Title: Re: Re: Re: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Wolfala on August 04, 2005, 11:32:45 AM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
LOL watch out, you going to get a bunch of dudes that are going to try and justify cheating with, all kinds of BS reasons....

Cheaters are skum, men or women.

If you cant keep your word to the person you married you are a worthless ****.



Never been in a college dorm situation have u?
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: GtoRA2 on August 04, 2005, 11:34:51 AM
ahh the first BS justification.

How does a Dorm make it ok and make you less of a scum bag for cheating on your GF or wife?
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: GtoRA2 on August 04, 2005, 11:34:55 AM
ahh the first BS justification.

How does a Dorm make it ok and make you less of a scum bag for cheating on your GF or wife?
Title: Re: Re: Re: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Mustaine on August 04, 2005, 11:39:09 AM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
LOL watch out, you going to get a bunch of dudes that are going to try and justify cheating with, all kinds of BS reasons....

Cheaters are skum, men or women.

If you cant keep your word to the person you married you are a worthless ****.
ROFL remember i'm JB73, been there, done that, argued till blue in the face, seen the threads explode....

regular run of the mill cheating is a different subject for a different thread.

here though, showing and dramatizing a woman cheating on her husband who is risking his life for her very safety and freedom, well... i'll be the BS show producers try to soften it up and make her look like a victim or some BS. :mad:
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: BlueJ1 on August 04, 2005, 11:51:53 AM
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Originally posted by Mustaine
ROFL remember i'm JB73,  


Wait, your JB73...jeez I leave for awhile come back to new bbs and new handles.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Hangtime on August 04, 2005, 11:53:26 AM
If you pick a slut for a wife, yer not too damn bright.

This is the kinda behavior trait in a woman that's instantly obvious to every other guy except the one who's married to her.

Wake up.. take responsibility for making a dumb decison and just cut the ***** lose. She wasn't worth your love to begin with, you made a mistake, aknowledge it and dump the broad, move on.

No hoe is worth a moments anguish... if she drops her pants when yer outta town, just guess how many other family critical missions she's gonna drop when you ARE in town. And trash like this is what guys get bent about, have kids with and slave for?

.. and one day snap and go to death row for?

mentally deficient. get a dog or something.. it'll love yah unconditonally, and yah probably won't snap if it gets laid when it gets out on friday nights.

Moral.. get a clue.. find a woman that's worth it. They're out there.. prolly lookin for a guy that won't drop his pant's the moment a hoe bats her eyes at him. Funny how that works both ways ain't it?
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Wolfala on August 04, 2005, 07:16:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GtoRA2
ahh the first BS justification.

How does a Dorm make it ok and make you less of a scum bag for cheating on your GF or wife?


No one's justifying it - i'm just as against it and as violently opposed. Been there, had it done to me.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: rpm on August 04, 2005, 10:10:19 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
If you pick a slut for a wife, yer not too damn bright.

This is the kinda behavior trait in a woman that's instantly obvious to every other guy except the one who's married to her.

Wake up.. take responsibility for making a dumb decison and just cut the ***** lose. She wasn't worth your love to begin with, you made a mistake, aknowledge it and dump the broad, move on.

You just described my exwife.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Hangtime on August 04, 2005, 10:12:33 PM
Operative on the 'ex' part. Congragulations, and condolences RPM.

Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: rpm on August 11, 2005, 02:46:13 AM
I'm begining to see "Over There" as a modern version of "Combat". Any thoughts on this weeks episode?

I was impressed once again with the writing. I have no problems with the ending, but the smart guy's attitude during the interrogation kinda disappointed me.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Lazerus on August 11, 2005, 03:08:43 AM
I read the first couple of posts. I didn't watch the show.

That being said, how can any of you support(with your viewing) this type of sensationalism. The previews disgusted me. I wish the fediddleers could at least wait until the casualties slowed down before they try to make money off of em. It just seems like the wrong thing to do at the wrong time to me.

Just my not so valued opinion though.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: rpm on August 11, 2005, 03:24:53 AM
On the sensationalism scale of 1 - 10, I'd have to give it a 2. They are doing a pretty evenhanded job of storytelling, IMHO. BUT, I'm not there and don't know firsthand. It's definitely not the type of propaganda we saw coming out of Hollywood during WW2 or Korea.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: TrueKill on August 11, 2005, 03:42:17 AM
Its no band of brothers but its a pretty good show.
Title: I hope the season is better than the pilot
Post by: Gunslinger on August 11, 2005, 02:47:16 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
I'm begining to see "Over There" as a modern version of "Combat". Any thoughts on this weeks episode?

I was impressed once again with the writing. I have no problems with the ending, but the smart guy's attitude during the interrogation kinda disappointed me.


Yea as a soldier dim would have known better but oh well.  His wife is definatly parent of the year but then again I've known military spouses that are exactly like that.  

I thaught it was a great epp.  Som very "funny" parts in it as well.

As far as the show making money off the casualties who's to say that vets coming home don't want their story to be told.  I know some of this mimics real life stories most of it is made up but the only outcry I've heard from vets was on the pilot wich I thought sucked arse.

I got to say I'm hooked.

I thought the psycological aspects of the interrogation were pretty interesting as well.