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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SirEvil on July 28, 2005, 06:15:32 PM
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This is a flyers game that's for sure! But as i see it, it has a lot of potencial to be more. Is there any planes to build on the groundplay?
I'm thinking, infantry, tanks, transports etc.
There was a game once that had this but it's destroyed now.
I'm not a flyerguy and prob never will be, but AH could very likely be my future game!
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Aces High is a flying game. They've just added tanks for fun.
I highly doubt you'd ever get to play the role of an infantryman.
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You have many game engines that can move stuff through 3d space(space ships, mystical beings, etc.) - they're a dime a dozen now. I think the success of AH is its flight models and narrow scope. I think if it tried to be too much it would hurt the game.
BTW, "narrow scope" is not a put down or a bad thing. I think its good sometimes (e.g., neurosurgeon).
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WW2OL :aok
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pfft...If you want infantry.. go play ww2online.
Future of this game is TOD :)
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WW2OL :aok
There was a game once that had this but it's destroyed now.
Explains it doesn't it:D
Bisides, wouldn't it be fun killing infantry from the air, bombing tanks.
Painting pretty pictures in blood on the ground with the tailgunner etc.
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this game has it all tanks planes and even infantry. you can bail from your plane and shoot people now..
you speak about the future, i hope that involves more people learning to fight instead of HOing and running.
It gets old...
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Gameplay has been getting worse for a number of years, and I see no signs of it improving.
Bring on ToD!
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Wonder how many perks for TOD's snappy new jackboots and
field marshall's baton? :D
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Originally posted by Callisto
pfft...If you want infantry.. go play ww2online.
Future of this game is TOD :)
I will assume that you're new. Because of that you didnt see what the game was 3 4 or 5 years ago. Hell, even a year ago. In this time it has grown leaps and bounds. People who ask about the future usually know little about the past. Not a big deal, or even your fault, just saying...
I am confident that HTC will continue to grow and more so continue to offer us the kick ass, game that they have for years now.
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Originally posted by Rino
Wonder how many perks for TOD's snappy new jackboots and
field marshall's baton? :D
About the same for Ivory handled pistols and a riding crop ;)
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ToD isn't the future of this game. ToD is another game, meant to drag all of the toolshedding hordes out of our way so we can go back to actually fighting in this Air Combat game.
No infantry for me thanks; they don't explode or catch fire when I shoot them.
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wtf, can't edit my posts. Friggin Oclub BS.
I quoted collisto, meant to quote thread starter. My appologies for the mixup.
Maybe allow the general disc threads to be edited like they used to be? Rather than however many minutes it is now. Shoulda just killed the oclub all together.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
I will assume that you're new. Because of that you didnt see what the game was 3 4 or 5 years ago. Hell, even a year ago. In this time it has grown leaps and bounds. People who ask about the future usually know little about the past. Not a big deal, or even your fault, just saying...
I am confident that HTC will continue to grow and more so continue to offer us the kick ass, game that they have for years now.
No problemo Morph..
Infantry has no future in this game.. well maybe after submarines are complete.. :)
HTC will continue to grow no doubt as long as they keep offering new graphical as well as gameplay innovations. GO TOD!!
i think TOD will be great because..
1. I'll play it
2. Historic plane matchups
3. RPG element
4.Historic Terrain/Maps
5. More organized play
6.Bunch of other cool new stuff i dont know about.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
wtf, can't edit my posts. Friggin Oclub BS.
I quoted collisto, meant to quote thread starter. My appologies for the mixup.
Maybe allow the general disc threads to be edited like they used to be? Rather than however many minutes it is now. Shoulda just killed the oclub all together.
I agree, people should be allowed to edit their own posts..
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
ToD isn't the future of this game. ToD is another game, meant to drag all of the toolshedding hordes out of our way so we can go back to actually fighting in this Air Combat game.
Actually, I think TOD is aimed more at folks that don't even play AH right now. I believe the "target market" is "box game" simmers wanting "careers" that they can follow like in the olden days with Red Baron.
I could be wrong though.
Also, I think HT mentioned at one of the cons that a FPS aspect could be added to AH. Long time ago though and I don't really remember the details.
As for editing, I think you have like 5 or 10 minutes to edit and then what you type is set forever.
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Infantry is not part of the evolutionary chain:
In the begining God said "Let there be multiplayer online air combat" and the heavens of Air Warrior appeard.
and the dweebs marveled in wonder at this creation.
and the dweebs after enjoying the fruits of this creation said:
"We shall take our blessed A-26 Invaders and rest them at the end of the enemy runway.
and we shall smite the ifediels that attempt to spawn"
and God was not pleased. He said "let there be flakpanzers".
and the flakpanzers spawned and smote to ruin the heritics.
and the dweebs marveled at the non flying creation.
and the dweebs said:
"Let us drive these flakpanzers an hour and rest them at the end of the enemy runway.
and we shall smite the infediels that attempt to spawn"
and God was not pleased. He said "let there be panzers."
and the panzers spawned and smote the dweebs to ruin.
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Originally posted by Callisto
I agree, people should be allowed to edit their own posts..
Look at the two tiny little icons under your post on the right side. The left one is for editing your post and the right one is for quoting the post. I can edit my posts just fine.
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eh..just asking:)
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Originally posted by SirEvil
eh..just asking:)
We don't really know. We know that they are working on Tour of Duty, which will be a lot more structured but we haven't a lot of details.
We know that they are bring the existing aircraft up to AH2 graphics standards, with the Spitfire and Bf109 series being the next group to be done,
As to infantry, well, they were mentioned at the 2001 Convention as an idea, but that was nearly four years ago and we haven't got any infantry.
AH2 made large strides in making the ground more detailed for GVs, but it is still a far cry from what infantry would need. The fact that aircraft must see the same things and maintain usable framerates limits what can be done in that regards.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
wtf, can't edit my posts. Friggin Oclub BS.
I quoted collisto, meant to quote thread starter. My appologies for the mixup.
Maybe allow the general disc threads to be edited like they used to be? Rather than however many minutes it is now. Shoulda just killed the oclub all together.
Maybe its because now you have to use the Edit/Quote button *below* the post, not - like old design - the one on top rigth of the post...
Seems like it is difficult to break habits... ;)
PS: took me awhile to figure it out as well, i guess im getting old.
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SirEvil
After you've been around here for 3,4,5 years. You'll beguin to see that Hitech has
one heck of a plan for AH. He doesn't always know all the details. He doesn't always share where he's going.
But he & his team know where they are headed. Trust me, if you just kick back & relax, and go along for the ride. In the end I doubt you'll be disappointed.
Its kinda like a roller coaster, you don't get to drive, but its still fun.
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WWIIOnline is dead? What happened?
Not that I played it, I just know guys that did and if it did indeed die, I look forward to seeing them back.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
ToD isn't the future of this game. ToD is another game, meant to drag all of the toolshedding hordes out of our way so we can go back to actually fighting in this Air Combat game.
No infantry for me thanks; they don't explode or catch fire when I shoot them.
you do know TOD is going to be like the dogfighters dream?
there almost assuredely will not be base capture like we know it in ToD. don't hope for it to "take the strat weenies" away, more like take away the flight sim fighter guys.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
ToD isn't the future of this game. ToD is another game, meant to drag all of the toolshedding hordes out of our way so we can go back to actually fighting in this Air Combat game.
No infantry for me thanks; they don't explode or catch fire when I shoot them.
AH quit being a Air Combat game a long long time ago. It is quake with wings and roundels in its present state of play.
Yeah, tool shedding sounds about right for bringing back its WW2 AirCombat roots. I will wait on ToD.
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B29 with atom bomb..but entire arena is alerted thru special radar dot when airborne so the good guys have to try to escort it and the bad guys do everythting they can to stop it!
Still combining Sub aspect like "silent hunter" and destroyer hunter to game would be cool!
B25's the plane..... and enable to take off CV's like Doolitle would be cool.
Still think PBY cool plane ....add deal when you land in water to save friendly down pilot ...you get perks and they save perks.
Someone said large landing craft with task force with multiple landing craft as it approaches the beach!
How about a couple of guns on shore ..smaller than Shore guys to help stop landing craft!
How about the D-Day troop gliders pulled be hind C47's with troops or a GV in it on successful landing? 999000
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For those who like fast kills and be killed by the spawners and friends go play AH2
for the serious players with more imagination there will be TOD.
Tod will be new the rest oldschool.
As my time get spare i rather play 1 quality mission than 10 fast quake sorties.
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Ok more ideas.........henkle 111..please.
How about a free month of AH for the most positive respectfull
sportsman or women?
Can we get blips over task forces or fields???
Give me the NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
searchlights were a cool idea..but not mine
Individual ships to command Bismark??? yamoto?..can you Imagine supper Battleship attackes enemy
CV group?
somebe # rank other than the great SHAWK?????
Parachute with a flame thrower not a pistal?????
999000.....i better go mow the lawn and get something done!
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Sir Master Skuzzy ........can you hear me sir!
..love the game!
999000
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Im just scared tod will take a large amount of our player base from the fammilier and loved (by some) Main Arena...
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"WWIIOnline is dead? What happened? "
They royally screwed up the whole thing by releasing a new version of the game with,IMO, some really ill thought out game mechanics.
Although, if you want to be an online Napoleon or Corporal Adolph the new version should really give you some wood.
And to top it off they then failed (as usual) to put a muzzle on Doc. So he continued to roam the boards whining to the players about thier failure to understand and offer sympathy for CRS- which he tries to pass off as "the smallest team of over-dedicated developers in the whole online game industry." That in addition to literally berating those who're unhappy about the games horrendous performance, unresolved bugs and over game-killing features because they lack his "vision" and depth of (bottle-induced?) clarity as to what the game is and will be....well....some day.
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murdr your verses are indeed true lol. Fast forward to the part where the mighty bombers totally nuke the field so no gameplay at all can happen. Normally there is an answer to the total dweebery that the virtual human race embraces..lets hope TOD will be it.
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So is WW2OL actually "dead" or did it just get another nail in it's coffin? The game has been "dying" since it was released as far as I'm concerned...one sortie and the FM had me uninstalling it in minutes.
I guess if the ground war is your thing and you see aircraft as a distraction then WW2OL may be for you. If you like flying and see the GVs as a distraction, then you are in the right place with AH2/TOD.
I don't think the current state of the art for computer game programming and PC hardware is ready for a game that excels at both.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
SirEvil
After you've been around here for 3,4,5 years. Its kinda like a roller coaster, you don't get to drive, but its still fun.
In 5 years Evil will be at his HS prom and not be interested in AH anymore:)
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After playing AW for many years I heard about a flight Sim in late 1999 that was in Beta. In early 2000 while I still participated in AW I started playing Aces High. Went to the 2K Con at Indy (AW) New developments to AW were exhibited at the AW 2K con. It was then I decided that Aces High was for me.
In the over 5 years I have been playing AH the game has been kept fresh. Adjustments to FM (remember the A5 being modeled 500 lbs to light?) and AH adjusting the FM to make it correct. Not only has the staff at Aces High moved the game forward with introduction of new craft air and ground alike. Upgraded the graphics, new maps etc. The Community has partcipated also advancing the game....Maps, Skins and Sound packages.
If it weren't for the Kraits in Aces High I probably would have left earlier then I did. Map overlays, selection of skies, airfield markings etc. that the Kraits intoduced to a by then otherwise boring game kept me interested. Plus the great community at Air Warrior and the Scenarios kept me somewhat interested.
Air Warrior was left on the vine to wither away. Outmoded flight models.....unreal ammo loads etc were fine for the mid 80s' when nothing else was around. When Aces High hit the Web it was a success right away.....and should continue to be as long as it's kept fresh by HTC.....and the Community participates as it does now with skins, terrains etc.
Future looks good to me.
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I believe the "target market" is "box game" simmers wanting "careers" that they can follow like in the olden days with Red Baron
red baron is still at large, and is a great model of good game design. Most of us are moving to Richthofens skies tho since RB3d is getting pretty out of date with the lack of updates since the code is still not open to the public. The general idea of role play and a carear is a great ground work to build on imho. A good squad can get these things going pretty well if you are into historical reinactment.
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Originally posted by Schatzi
Maybe its because now you have to use the Edit/Quote button *below* the post, not - like old design - the one on top rigth of the post...
Seems like it is difficult to break habits... ;)
PS: took me awhile to figure it out as well, i guess im getting old.
The alloted time given to edit posts has been reduced as a result of uclub goings ons.
Thanks though.:aok
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I highly doubt you'd ever get to play the role of an infantryman.
HT has said in previous interviews that he would like to add an FPS element and even submarines to the game. But I think with ToD coming down the pipeline, adding player controlled troops and subs has been put on the back burner for now.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
HT has said in previous interviews that he would like to add an FPS element and even submarines to the game. But I think with ToD coming down the pipeline, adding player controlled troops and subs has been put on the back burner for now.
ack-ack
Or it could be apart of ToD as well.
For as long as its taking, god knows what it will be like. And what we will have.