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Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on July 31, 2005, 09:46:01 PM
363rd FG, 9th AF flown by John R. Brown
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1122864189_bigmacjr.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1122863574_mac.jpg)
Most layers I've ever used (on the layer menu I was not able to see all of them on the list)
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SkyChimp on July 31, 2005, 09:57:42 PM
Nice start! Three things.

1. Nose art looks blurry.
2. Chips look blurry.
3. Add shine.
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: United on July 31, 2005, 10:24:01 PM
Lookin' pretty good.  You mean you don't use about 50 layers????








:) I guess I'm just too afraid of really screwing up big, but I end up doing it anyways.
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on July 31, 2005, 10:32:30 PM
I usually get by with 7 or 8 layers, I dont know how many I used for this one.
look in second SS, tell me you don't see shine...
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SkyChimp on July 31, 2005, 10:38:56 PM
I'm sure you would say no.

Might as well try can you send me a copy of you skin.

Not to copy or anything like that(i have my own template) so not that. Can you? email (skychimp@cox.net)
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on July 31, 2005, 10:44:52 PM
what for?

I kinda would rather not
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SkyChimp on July 31, 2005, 11:01:34 PM
Never mind then lol:p Not like I'm going to steal you work.

Just trying to help you out. I'll show you with my skin then.
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SkyChimp on July 31, 2005, 11:31:14 PM
Ok.. I'm still working on it but here it is. Still working with effect and opacity.(http://www.the-ones.org/skins/images/ahss47 copy.jpg )

You get the idea. :)
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Krusty on August 01, 2005, 12:10:59 AM
OMG OMG OMG I may have a new fav P51b skin!!!!!!
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on August 01, 2005, 12:16:58 AM
I really don't see your point skychimp, my skin is reflective too...
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1122873363_bigmac.jpg)
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SkyChimp on August 01, 2005, 12:43:09 AM
Look at the skin closer lol...:aok
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Knite on August 01, 2005, 08:17:53 AM
Raptor, I think what skychimp is talking about isn't the shine you get in the game engine, it's that sometimes a skinner will put a "faux" shine at highlighted places on a metal aircraft's fuselage/wings, usually where an aircraft bows up (or out).

I think it looks good Raptor =) Used to 7 layers? I wish! lol
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: TexMurphy on August 01, 2005, 10:30:42 AM
Raptor.

There is something to the metal that feels "wrong".

I cant put my finger on it but if you wana you could send me the template and Ill have a look at the metal layers and we will see what we can work out together.

Tex
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SELECTOR on August 01, 2005, 02:48:05 PM
i personally think it looks spot on..
i have never NEVER seen a a pic of a all metal plane that looks shiny.. only the air show crowd polish them up..
where as skychimp is more shiny it looks too shiny and fake..
just my opinion..
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SkyChimp on August 01, 2005, 03:04:55 PM
I said I'm working on it lol.


Btw I do agree it looks fake at the moment.
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on August 01, 2005, 04:07:15 PM
I don't see why I should make it lighter where parts of the aircraft "bows up (or out)" because these models do that anyway. When looking around in the skin view or in the game you can get different reflections from different angles, from the front (depending on time of day and direction you are heading) the wings "light up" only at the high part of the wing (the part skychimp has lightened up on his wings).


And I usually only use about 7-8 layers because PSP7 only lists 10 and any more than that disappear unless you re-arange the order or delete some layers. (There is probably a way to vew all but lets pretend there's not so I don't feel like an idiot:) )

Tex what's your e-mail and i'll send ya the metal layers
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SkyChimp on August 01, 2005, 04:40:56 PM
It wont by that bright when its done. (hardly noticeable)

Your blue is to visable lower that a little then it'll be ok.

Bah trust him and not me pfft:mad:
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: ramzey on August 01, 2005, 05:28:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Raptor01


And I usually only use about 7-8 layers because PSP7 only lists 10 and any more than that disappear unless you re-arange the order or delete some layers. (There is probably a way to vew all but lets pretend there's not so I don't feel like an idiot:) )

Tex what's your e-mail and i'll send ya the metal layers



lol, use slide bar or resize windows, since v6 you can have over 99 layers in psp
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on August 01, 2005, 07:11:18 PM
my blue layer is at 3% opacity
no slide bar and screen resolution only goes to 1024.
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SkyChimp on August 01, 2005, 07:18:20 PM
I'm sorry rap:( Just trying to help out i can't see well do you mind taking a SS like you did with your 47.(in psp) Thx i know my effects not that good yet..
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: TexMurphy on August 02, 2005, 03:13:37 AM
Raptor01

Check your PMs on this site the email is sent to you through there.

Thanks god they enabled PMs.. ;)

Tex
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: thebest1 on August 02, 2005, 05:53:32 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Raptor01
I usually get by with 7 or 8 layers, I dont know how many I used for this one.
look in second SS, tell me you don't see shine...


7-8!!!! i use almost 100!!! lol well thats what it seems like its prob only like 50 but still only 8!?!? i use 8 layers for the metal layer only!!!!
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on August 02, 2005, 10:40:32 PM
I dunno tex, what you did to the metal just seems too dark
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1123040397_bmac.jpg)
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SkyChimp on August 02, 2005, 10:44:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Raptor01
I dunno tex, what you did to the metal just seems too dark
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1123040397_bmac.jpg)


:eek: Get us closer so we can see lol. The color looks good does look on dark side. Raptor can you get us closer?
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on August 02, 2005, 10:51:54 PM
I took the SS up close but screen froze and it zoomed a lil out and i assumed i got the picture anyway and when i closed AH and opened PSP i didn't feel like opening AH again to take the SS.
(I have dial up and picture hangar takes forever to upload a picture for me)
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: SkyChimp on August 02, 2005, 10:57:22 PM
If you send the bmp file i'll take a SS and upload to my server..
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on August 02, 2005, 11:10:33 PM
That would take longer to upload and e-mail ya.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1123042206_macjr.jpg)
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: TexMurphy on August 03, 2005, 01:58:09 AM
Yes it does look a bit dark.

The grey color layer, use a lighter grey on it.

Also the plane does need some dirt weathering once the metal is right.

Tex
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Stang on August 03, 2005, 02:23:35 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Raptor01
That would take longer to upload and e-mail ya.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1123042206_macjr.jpg)


What map is that you used for the pic?  I see a wider runway, sandy beaches and decent looking water!
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on August 03, 2005, 02:35:16 AM
That's my Midway map.

That did it Tex, looks better now.
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: TexMurphy on August 03, 2005, 05:47:47 AM
Question.

Did you preserve the opticity of the layers?

Inperticular the "darkened metal squares" layers.

You think you could take closer shots. Do it from the skin viewer (zoom in use print screen button, paste into MS Paint and save it as a jpg).

Tex
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on August 03, 2005, 06:14:48 PM
everything was the same in the above picture, I kept the opacity relatively the same in the below picture but messed with the blending properties.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1123110688_bigmacjr.jpg)
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Guppy35 on August 03, 2005, 07:51:09 PM
Raptor, go to this thread"

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=155805

I think you did the same thing as Octavious did with the default 51B skin in terms of the wing D-Day stripes.  

They look way too narrow on the wings.

Look at the images I posted in that thread and where the D-Day stripes end on the flaps of the wartime 51B image vs where they ended on the flaps of the AH 51B.  

The OD on top of your wing and the lower D-Day stripes should cover the same amount of area as the real image.

The MGs should be showing through the middle white stripe not the outer white stripe.

Like the rest of it alot though :)

Dan/CorkyJr
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Raptor on August 03, 2005, 09:12:14 PM
fixed, thanks for pointing that out and thanks for helping find info on it.

(edit) just noticed a layer was covering the yellow on the top of the nose, that's fixed now as well.
Title: P51B Big Mac Junior
Post by: Guppy35 on August 03, 2005, 09:40:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Raptor01
fixed, thanks for pointing that out and thanks for helping find info on it.


My pleasure.  I sure appreciate the great work you and the others do taking those profiles and photos and making them into something that looks great in the game.

Wish I had the talent :)

Dan/CorkyJr