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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SELECTOR on August 02, 2005, 06:09:55 PM
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I only play for fun . which im sure 80% of the paying players do. I have limited time to play. i care NOTHING for score or rank.
I totally agree that some planes should be perked(fixed prices. i don't find it fair that because of the time zone you live in your full enjoyment of the game should be removed from you)
I really do feel that HTC should stand up to the bed room generals and either stop the fun being sucked out of the game or have a rolling plane set. pre 1941 pre 1944 and post 1944..
After all its not my fault that the time i play the knights always have more people online. why should i pay the price to fly a plane i dont want to because the spits (except the mk1) are out because of the limiter..the spit was one of the most numerious planes of ww2. when i logged on tonight (8pm gmt) the knights have 0 (except the mk1) to choose from..i would have jumpped sideds but the lenth of time before being able to return to fly with squaddies is too long..
COME ON HTC, THERE HAS TO BE A FAIRER WAY THAN THIS
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uhhhh, isn't the side-switching timer set for 3 or maybe 6 hrs?
and, uuuhhhh... "fair" what would be "fair" would be for your squad to switch to a non-horde side? unless you're about the only one who can't fly knits when they don;t have nbrs... then perhaps you might look into joining a new squad that's more in line with your limited time to play... it'd not be the end of the world, yanno?
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ITS MY 15$ SO I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING I LIKE!
we've been through this before.
Spare a thought for the guys on the other end of your horde - should they not have a fighting chance?
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Originally posted by SELECTOR
After all its not my fault that the time i play the knights always have more people online.
IT IS ENTIRELY YOUR FAULT. YOU WERE NOT FORCED TO BECOME A KNIT, AND NEITHER WAS YOUR SQUAD. YOU CHOSE YOUR SIDE: IF YOU REFUSE TO CHANGE, THIS IS THE CONSEQUENCE.
Your total comes to $14.95, please pull around to the second window.
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Selector, just change sides. Believe me, there are nice people and wimps on every side. It took me a year to realize my way toward less agravation was personal goals. Meager expectations and lots of beer :)
Last camp it was 1.5 kills per day. This camp 2 kill per day. And lotsa beer. I'm too smart to be poor!!!
:rofl
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Your total comes to $14.95, please pull around to the second window.
:rofl I love these cracks
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1.5 kills per day? thats awsome.
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the spit was one of the most numerious planes of ww2
This isn't WW2. Its a fight sim.
The way I see it you have two choices.
Change to the side where you can fly what you want due to lower numbers.
Or.
Stay where you are, continue to whine. And let Hitech dictate what you can and cant fly.
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SELECTOR--
You have a third option that Morpheus failed to mention. You can quit the game. That's the option I took when the ENY system ruined my enjoyment of it.
I am still waiting for changes which will make the game fun again, and while I've seen steps in the right direction (Icon system revisions), the continued presence of ENY is just too much of a detriment.
J_A_B
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Originally posted by J_A_B
SELECTOR--
You have a third option that Morpheus failed to mention. You can quit the game. That's the option I took when the ENY system ruined my enjoyment of it.
I am still waiting for changes which will make the game fun again, and while I've seen steps in the right direction (Icon system revisions), the continued presence of ENY is just too much of a detriment.
J_A_B
Oh come on man....... what's the REAL reason you quit? Quiting instead of changing sides? Get real. :rolleyes:
Woof
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It isn't a flightsim, it isn't real WW2 ...
It is a good flightsim WW2 furball game !
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That's the option I took when the ENY system ruined my enjoyment of it.
Your fun was ruined because you just couldn't switch sides?
It would seem to me that if the eny system is being used to entice folks into balancing the teams (many games have forced 'auto balance' settings) a thread like this just shows how much its needed.
What possible difference could it make in the 'fun level' whether you are a bish, rook or Knit?
If you are dedicated to one aircraft (which is fine, I only flew a few different planes in AH myself) then why can't you have 'fun' flying it on which ever side has it available?
AH is not a real war, chess piece patriotism is a little 'weird' don't you think?
If anything wouldn't switching sides to fight with and against a variety a different folks (both friend and foe) keep the game fresh?
Everybody can use a little 'strange' every now and again...
Besides once the new Spitfires get introduced I am sure the eny values will need re-adjusting...
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Think about the poor bastards flying against 1:4 odds.
What do you recommend they would do ?
They either logoff or change to the other side with favourable odds
Who wants to fight when they are glad to stay alive long enough to get the gear up before they get whacked ?
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What new ENY system?
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I don't know. But me i've seen the 262 perked at 0 and the f4u1 perked 200:eek: Must be small update errors.
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
I don't know. But me i've seen the 262 perked at 0 and the f4u1 perked 200:eek: Must be small update errors.
Its called h2h errors :lol
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I don't fly h2h.. :eek:
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Originally posted by Pyro
What new ENY system?
I bet he is refering to the lack of RAF fighters with ENY values above 10. Apparently Hurricanes, the Mosquito and Spitfire Mk I don't count.
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Originally posted by Karnak
I bet he is refering to the lack of RAF fighters with ENY values above 10. Apparently Hurricanes, the Mosquito and Spitfire Mk I don't count.
Well in the AH MA; as effective fighters; they don't.
But let's buck up; and accept the flattery that the AH system gives us:
The Spitfire is the best fighter of WWII!
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There are wonderful choices back there in the "ENY 40" range...
the mini lala at 35, -1 hog, 205 and Ki-61 at 40. The B pony and the D11 jug...the 109F4 & FM-2 not to mention the hurricane (all of em).....
This "ENY" BS gets old (wait it IS old)....especially now with the 2 38s at 35 (if i remember right) for the J and 40 something for the G....plenty of stuff to fly in at any ENY....
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Originally posted by J_A_B
SELECTOR--
You have a third option that Morpheus failed to mention. You can quit the game. That's the option I took when the ENY system ruined my enjoyment of it.
I am still waiting for changes which will make the game fun again, and while I've seen steps in the right direction (Icon system revisions), the continued presence of ENY is just too much of a detriment.
J_A_B
Are you kidding me?
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Originally posted by save
Think about the poor bastards flying against 1:4 odds.
What do you recommend they would do ?
Tempests, 262s, F4U4s, .......... Maybe not trying to pork everything close so all your enemies not only have #s but alt too.... When trying to capture a base, not acting like you're inside Masada.... Oh the list goes on and on.
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Originally posted by humble
There are wonderful choices back there in the "ENY 40" range...
the mini lala at 35, -1 hog, 205 and Ki-61 at 40. The B pony and the D11 jug...the 109F4 & FM-2 not to mention the hurricane (all of em).....
This "ENY" BS gets old (wait it IS old)....especially now with the 2 38s at 35 (if i remember right) for the J and 40 something for the G....plenty of stuff to fly in at any ENY....
Riiight.
Lot of RAF choices in that list, Humble.
Still; at least we now have HTC's confirmation that the Spitfire is more leathal than any LW ride or my little pony......
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Originally posted by Seeker
The Spitfire is the best fighter of WWII!
Yup, all those Spitfires escorting bombers to Berlin and Tokyo were the turning point in the war.
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Originally posted by Grits
Yup, all those Spitfires escorting bombers to Berlin and Tokyo were the turning point in the war.
I said best fighter; not best nurse maid..
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No doubt it was one of the best, but several other planes have a better claim to "best of the war" than the Spit.
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Originally posted by Seeker
Riiight.
Lot of RAF choices in that list, Humble.
Still; at least we now have HTC's confirmation that the Spitfire is more leathal than any LW ride or my little pony......
Last I checked the hurricane was RAF....BTW the british flew the -1 hog and F6F as well. Not to mention a couple of flavors of the P-40....
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Originally posted by humble
Last I checked the hurricane was RAF....BTW the british flew the -1 hog and F6F as well. Not to mention a couple of flavors of the P-40....
I'd kill for the RAF version of the F6F, 4 50s + 2 hazookas! I'd even accept a moderate perk on that nasty bird.
HTC, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, when you re-do the F6F can we get this version?
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Originally posted by Grits
Yup, all those Spitfires escorting bombers to Berlin and Tokyo were the turning point in the war.
Did you confuse "fighter" with "Can fly really far?"
B17s could fly to Berlin too. Does that make them the best fighter?
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If B17's were like they are in AH, a flight of them could fly to Berlin and back and gun down about 100 German aircraft on the way... so yeah, B17 was teh best fighta evah!
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Originally posted by Grits
Yup, all those Spitfires escorting bombers to Berlin and Tokyo were the turning point in the war.
Whether you realize it or not, one of the key moments of WW2 was the UK stopping the LW during the BoB.
Without the UK as a base to hit Europe the allies would have been right in the poopoo.
Stang - LOLOLOL, you right, the average B-17 raid in AH2 could have wiped out the whole LW.
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BTW, sorry for the hijack, but the original topic wasnt all that interesting anyway. :)
Originally posted by dedalos
Did you confuse "fighter" with "Can fly really far?"
B17s could fly to Berlin too. Does that make them the best fighter?
Goering knew they lost the war the first time he saw P-51's escort the B-17's to Berlin. Buffs had gone there before, fighters had not. The Spitfire, for all its wonderful traits, and I dont deny that it was one of the top fighters of the war, was limited in its impact because of its short range.
Originally posted by Kev367th
Whether you realize it or not, one of the key moments of WW2 was the UK stopping the LW during the BoB.
Without the UK as a base to hit Europe the allies would have been right in the poopoo.
No doubt that was a turning poing in the war that had far reaching effects. The same could be said about the F4F at Coral Sea, Midway, and Guadalcanal, yet I dont think it could make a claim for best fighter of the war.
Lots of planes could make a legitimate claim as best fighter of the war. Some of those would be in no particular order:
Spitfire/Seafire
Fw190
F4U
F6F
Bf109
P-51
P-38
P-47
I dont know for sure what the "best" fighter of WW2 was (who really does?) but I do have a few benchmarks a plane would have to pass to be considered. Again in no particular order:
High production numbers (no limited production wonderplanes)
Success in combat (but not necessarily a plane from the winning side)
Good at air to ground also. Yes, we are talking about best fighter of the war, but delivering ground ord was a huge part of the air war, and it can not be ignored.
The last criteria that some (many) will not agree with, but that I think is a make or break to be considered as "best" fighter of the war is, it MUST be a plane capable of Carrier Ops. Carrier Ops were so important to the war that I think any plane, no matter how good, if it was not a CV capable plane it can not be in the running for "best" of the war. P-51, P-38, P-47 and LW fans will hate me for that, but I just dont see how a plane cane make the claim of best of the war if they were not Carrier capable.
By my estimation (take that for what its work, which not much) that leaves the F6F, the F4U and the Seafire/Spitfire. Of those three, the Spitfire/Seafire has little effective bombload so that leaves the F6F and the F4U. I have no idea which one of those I would say is better, but probably the F4U if I had to pick one.
There, Ive said it, now flame away. :)
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For those in this post complaining about the eny limit. What do think HiTech should force people to change countries to keep the odds even. For those who b**** about the Eny you are more then welcome to fly Bish. Alsmot everynight Bish are outnumbered by at least 10 to 1 and alot lately trying to hold on some territory. NOw if you are complaining about not being up to fly your Spit well SUCK IT UP!!!! AND GET OVER IT!!!!! If there was no eny limit every night would be a race to see who could capture the most Bish bases cause I doubt there would be many if any left.
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"Your fun was ruined because you just couldn't switch sides? "
Oh I could, and for a time I did. You might say my enjoyment was affected BECAUSE I had to switch sides. I'd often have to switch sides every time I logged on, was always flying with different people, and couldn't really remain with any particular squad or really get to know much of anyone. It got old fast. Sometimes I'd log on for awhile, then log back on a couple hours later and numbers had changed such that I couldn't make use of "my" ride OR switch countries. The situation rapidly degenerated into an annoying hassle.
I do not fault HTC for making the decision they made--something had to be done given what the numbers were at the time. However, some people such as myself simply fell through the cracks. I have every intent of returning if changes are made which make the game appeal to me again, hence why I remain up-to-date on development. SELECTOR sounds as though he may be best served by taking a break as I am.
J_A_B
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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
I'd kill for the RAF version of the F6F, 4 50s + 2 hazookas! I'd even accept a moderate perk on that nasty bird.
HTC, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, when you re-do the F6F can we get this version?
(http://www.bismarck-class.dk/other_craft_involved/british_aircraft_involved/fighter_aircraft/pictures/grumman_f6f5_hellcat.jpg)