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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ramzey on August 06, 2005, 01:42:05 AM
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we all know its gonna be TOD "life in 8th AF" right?
tell me how do you imagine new TOD
ramzey
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Another CT:(
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8th AF vs "Luftwaffe"
The RAF will be on the sideline bench:D
the Spits, typhs, temps, and mossies are toooooo good!!!:D
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
Another CT:(
To be honest I believe so too. I wish it wasn't going to be this way but it almost certainly will be. There's a dynamic interaction in the MA that has existed in these types of games since the beginning. No 'theme arena', no matter how well crafted will have the same popular appeal. This is just my personal prediction, however.
Zazen
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No clue because I havent read much about it but if its going to be like the 8th AF, I wonder if damage percentages against targets will be enough enticement to keep this crowd interested.
ALLIED TARGETS:
Berlin:10%
Hamburg:38%
Dresden:45%
ALLIED LOSSES:
6038 B17
8347 B24
7832 P51
8553 P47
AXIS RESOURCES:
OVER REDUCTION: 29%
AXIS LOSSES:
9243 BF109
4719 FW190
CAMPAIGN SCORE: AXIS WIN MINOR VICTORY
Would that be enough to keep guys involved? Or will it be a more gamed up version, to keep others happy, but reducing somewhat the realistic strat play?
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I see it as this..
When it comes out it will be all the rage.. Everyone will be flying the missions to become top dog...
Then the missions will start to repeat, become stale and its back to the MA.
I hope HTC increase the plane/ship/tank set so I'm wrong.
Kinda like the CT when it 1st opened.
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I would bet that if ToD is going to succeed it will be because most of those who play it are new players not currently in the MA. I don't see the current MA crowd wanting to play a never ending scenerio. Hell I can't put up with scenerios now (no offense to the scenerio team, I know you guys work hard). Adding a survival element to it does not at all help. Flying for a greater mission objective aside, I don't want to fly around for an hour and not really do anything.
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I really hope that we can get alot of drones in there. 1000+ bombers hundreds of fighters. I PWN drones off line in AH like a mad man. My rank is going to be uber l33t in ToD. :mad:
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Originally posted by Morpheus
I really hope that we can get alot of drones in there. 1000+ bombers hundreds of fighters. I PWN drones off line in AH like a mad man. My rank is going to be uber l33t in ToD. :mad:
w00t! 20 star generul morph!¬
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Originally posted by sullie363
I would bet that if ToD is going to succeed it will be because most of those who play it are new players not currently in the MA. I don't see the current MA crowd wanting to play a never ending scenerio. Hell I can't put up with scenerios now (no offense to the scenerio team, I know you guys work hard). Adding a survival element to it does not at all help. Flying for a greater mission objective aside, I don't want to fly around for an hour and not really do anything.
I bet that quite a few former AH players that were around the first 4 years or so will be back in to play it. Also If you want to talk about stale, look to the MA. that snail race just doesnt change.
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Originally posted by ramzey
tell me how do you imagine new TOD
ramzey
...as exciting as watching paint peel.
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ToD will flop - You watch ;)
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My big worry is that there wont be enough variation to keep people interested.
HT has taken on a hard nut to crack, not enough has been revealed about exactly how it is expected to function, all we have are very broad outlines.
It has all the possibilities of becoming a single period in time, permanent European (narrow European) CT.
i.e. flights -
England -->Germany
England --> France
Like everyone else I'm guessing, we need more hard details
a) Will it remain 8th vs LW
b) Will it remain that limited time period
c) Will it remain European only
If the answers to a,b,c are Yes, it will become another CT.
Variation is the key, imagine if your playing a LW pilot, instead of just being transferred from a France based to a Germany based unit, you are transferred to a N. African unit. Completely new planeset to fly against, different missions etc.
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Originally posted by Kev367th
My big worry is that there wont be enough variation to keep people interested.
HT has taken on a hard nut to crack, not enough has been revealed about exactly how it is expected to function, all we have are very broad outlines.
It has all the possibilities of becoming a single period in time, permanent European (narrow European) CT.
i.e. flights -
England -->Germany
England --> France
Like everyone else I'm guessing, we need more hard details
a) Will it remain 8th vs LW
b) Will it remain that limited time period
c) Will it remain European only
If the answers to a,b,c are Yes, it will become another CT.
Variation is the key, imagine if your playing a LW pilot, instead of just being transferred from a France based to a Germany based unit, you are transferred to a N. African unit. Completely new planeset to fly against, different missions etc.
Dont forget the eastern front. Lots of activity there....
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Originally posted by mipoikel
Dont forget the eastern front. Lots of activity there....
CC, just used N. Africa as an example.
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So far all I hear is speculation, I haven't seen/heard anything firm to date. I know it was discussed at that con, but I wonder how much has changed since then. I may try it, but you will probably be able to find me in the MA till I get tired of it all....
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Originally posted by ramzey
tell me how do you imagine new TOD
ramzey
Something... wonderful, Dave.
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I wonder if there will be a rolling date. As in for every one day is an actual day during WWII. Allowing for such events like invasions and large scale raids.
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Originally posted by Howitzer
So far all I hear is speculation, I haven't seen/heard anything firm to date. I know it was discussed at that con, but I wonder how much has changed since then. I may try it, but you will probably be able to find me in the MA till I get tired of it all....
MA? Where'd you get the idea there's gonna be a MA? I coulda sworn the interview article mentioned using the MA for TOD. Then again maybe we lose the CT, DA or TA. Who knows?
I'd also rather wait and see than speculate on what may or may not happen. Besides 2 weeks ain't up yet, right? :D
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Ren
The Damned
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MMOL RPG's are all the rage these days, TOD will do fine.
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Originally posted by NoBaddy
...as exciting as watching paint peel.
NB just sniff the turp. Its more fun:)
I was in the Army and have no desire to do it again. A never ending scenario doesnt do it for me.
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I picture it as continuous automated snapshot events on a larger scale. I hope the promotin and medal systom or such wont be like in WW2OL... where just about every second player is a general or sumpthin... I hope it will be harder to keep up the interest in career building, but then again, not too hard... it should have some curve for career advancement.. IMHO . Maybe it could be based on player percentages..?... should have ups and downs in career and also demotions if things go bad or maybe even because of inactivity.. to make place for other "generals" :)
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tell me how do you imagine new TOD
.... Here eventually... maybe.
In all seriousness I was thinking the other night about the "large bomber groups". I have a pretty good rig and I average 50-60 fps. The 'only' time I have any problems is when I come across a misshun. 4-5 bomber groups and I start seeing a slide show.
Anybody else have this problem and if so what do you think TOD will be like?
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That's my biggest worry too, Dip. It's gonna take a top of the line system to handle the FR's of flying into a huge formation of buffs.
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Originally posted by DipStick
tell me how do you imagine new TOD
.... Here eventually... maybe.
In all seriousness I was thinking the other night about the "large bomber groups". I have a pretty good rig and I average 50-60 fps. The 'only' time I have any problems is when I come across a misshun. 4-5 bomber groups and I start seeing a slide show.
Anybody else have this problem and if so what do you think TOD will be like?
I do, but it only takes 1 set of bombers to bring me down to 5 FPS. When text is set to 1024, it only drops to aroound 15. Go figure, lol
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Originally posted by Silat
NB just sniff the turp. Its more fun:)
I was in the Army and have no desire to do it again. A never ending scenario doesnt do it for me.
'Zactly. Never was a general wannabee...never will be. For those that are...more power to yah....enjoy. :)
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I certainly hope that they will not do away with the Main Arena.
As for TOD, I personally have no interest. I expect the TOD to be just a jazzed up CT. There is a reason I don't fly in the CT; mainly because I don't like it. Wow what fun, you get to fly a Zeke against a horde of F4u's or a Spit1 against early model 190s and 109s. Such imbalance is not my cup of tea. I think the plane set in the MA gives you a lot of choice and balance.
And given the numbers who fly MA vs. the CT, it would appear that I am not alone in preferring the MA environment over the CT.
Personally I don’t care whether or not TOD comes. And when it does, I hope some enjoy it. But I also hope that HT will not decide to trash the MA.
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Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
I certainly hope that they will not do away with the Main Arena.
As for TOD, I personally have no interest. I expect the TOD to be just a jazzed up CT. There is a reason I don't fly in the CT; mainly because I don't like it. Wow what fun, you get to fly a Zeke against a horde of F4u's or a Spit1 against early model 190s and 109s. Such imbalance is not my cup of tea. I think the plane set in the MA gives you a lot of choice and balance.
And given the numbers who fly MA vs. the CT, it would appear that I am not alone in preferring the MA environment over the CT.
Personally I don’t care whether or not TOD comes. And when it does, I hope some enjoy it. But I also hope that HT will not decide to trash the MA.
No need to worry bout the MA .. the LA7/P51d/N1K1 come and go flyers are their bread and butter, they wont cut off the hand that feeds em. Same reason those planes will never be perked.
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Originally posted by ramzey
we all know its gonna be TOD "life in 8th AF" right?
tell me how do you imagine new TOD
ramzey
I imagined one time and got a head ache. So I don't do that anymore:lol
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I imagine "My little pony" shooting down leather doras while the hippy bus brings in a fresh load of recruits with free beta testing.
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TOD will probably attract a lot of the history oriented crowd. The subscribers who rarely or never play in the ma. It may also bring back some of the old school flyers who have moved on to other games.