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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Eagle Eye on August 06, 2005, 02:43:55 PM
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Hey everyone. Just got here gonna DL game a few questions. How much is this game? Is it a monthly charge or a one time. And how realistic is the handling of the aircraft.
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First two weeks free, then $14.95US monthly. Download of the game is free, as are any updates.
Flight model is best I've seen in any stand-alone or on-line sim. Damage and shooting models are equally excellent.
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and aisde from a few bad apples (shane and jetb come to mind) it has a great community =)
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Check out the http://www.netaces.org/. Tons of Aces High info
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Thanks for info. 1 more question.
does everyone use any voice comms such as TS
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AH has built in "vox" so you don't need stand-alone voice comm software.
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gREAT AGAIN THANKS FOR THE INFO
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Originally posted by TheThang
and aisde from a few bad apples (shane and jetb come to mind) it has a great community =)
outside of being a direct flame type message, over look this bad apple theory Eagle eye,
each and every player of AH has his/her on character..........some just let certian individuals get to them mentally :D
come join us all for some good fun under the AH sun! cya up.........
if you are looking for any help feel free to drop the trainers a request at
trainers @ flyaceshigh.com
or just pop in the Training arena at your leasure........ welcome to Aces High
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I have to agree with TC there... There are some absolute newbies, there are some absolute masters, there are 9 year olds that pretend they're tough by swearing every bad word they know (and they only know a few, it seems) and then there are seasoned old farts that know some more selective (and original) swearing, and then there are the silent ones (and some that don't even speak English too well!) and then there are the ones that won't shut up.
What you have to do is figure out how you're going to deal with the bad ones (that is, the ones you don't like, whichever ones they are). The best way is "live and let live" or ".squelch " :)
I don't totally buy the "bad egg" argument. Everybody is a bad egg to somebody else, somewhere. I do buy the "child that needs more parental supervision" idea, as that's readily clear in many cases, but the best you can do is be patient and set a good example.
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Yep. You may not like Shane's mouth, but he's helped alot of folks along the way too. To truly enjoy being here, you need a bit of a thick skin. That said, this is a pretty good bunch of folks to get to know. Enjoy, and welcome!
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I think Thang's remarks were tongue in cheek - i dunno - there's no tongue in cheek smiley :D
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Well my gameplay will be delayed. After a 2 hr DL(I HATE AOL DIAL UP) Igot the error messageAHWHATEVER THE #S ARE is not a valid win32 file.
After i threw a few things i have decided to re download overnite and try again in morning.
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Why dont you get that download program "getright" or whatever. It manages downloads and can resume if you get cut off. You'd think AOL would provide a download manager to compete these days.
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you'de think that, But we are refering to Absolutly Over priced AOL
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Your going to want to lose that A O Hell and get yourself a real ISP at some point.
BTW Creator of the game has flown real warbirds, he wants to get it as "right" as he can, and still make it fun for everyone.
Learning curve is steep, don't get discouraged! This is something that can take years to master. Like TC said there are trainers here to help. There is also a very good community that will answer questions, etc.
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Be forewarned EagleEye, this is a very addicting pursuit...marriages have crumbled, jobs have been lost, lives have ruined.
DmdMax
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Well again i am delayed. I guess getting the CD from them is my only choice. I tried to DL it 9 times. Keep getting error message AH #####"s EXE is not a valid WIN32 Application.
Any suggestions on trying to fix this?
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Do you have a CDRom burner? Try saving the installation download to a CD and installing from it. You might also post that question in the hardware/software area of the forum, or for that matter under general discussions.
If all fails give a call to HTC in the morning (9:00 am CDT) at 817.251.1540. Ask for Skuzzy. He's the goto for tech support.
Good luck!
DmdMax
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Originally posted by DMax
Be forewarned EagleEye, this is a very addicting pursuit...marriages have crumbled, jobs have been lost, lives have ruined.
DmdMax
And bathing might become a thing of the past (sniff)
maybe why marriages crumble?
Mike
aka BTMe62
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eagle, i had the same problem with it, i think its an error in that DL patch. somethings up with htcs server stuff. this happened a few moths ago. try again tommorow or something. if you hang on for a little while (couple of days) it should get fixed. dont waste money on the cd.
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cd`s only 5 bucks....plus i downloaded it yesterday with no problems
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As much as I hate to say it, being a fan of local inexpensive dial up type ISPs, I find it much easier on my temperment with this game having a DSL connection. Main reason for that is I have a quirky 56k modem in this machine that doesn't maintain a high download speed. So, I want to go up for a few flights, try to login, then I have to download some update to play the game that could take fifteen minutes or even hours. Now, I hardly notice it with DSL.
Along that line, a suggestion for those that are using 56k dial ups. If you have a friend with a broadband connection, see if he or she will download the game to a CD for you. When I first started, back in January, I dreaded the thought of downloading the 85 or 90+- megs for the original download as it would have taken many hours with my modem. Heck, even with a good 56k modem it would take hours. So, I e-mailed a friend who had a cable connection to see how long it would take him to download it to a CD. He immediately e-mailed back and said he'd check.
He calls me inside of five minutes wanting to know exactly what I wanted downloaded. I told him and asked how long it would take. He said, "Hold on. It's just about done. There, I got it for you". He downloaded the whole thing in about six minutes and once you have it on CD, you don't need to worry about downloading the whole thing again until they come out with a new version although it's still nice to have broadband for the, sometimes frequent, updates.
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If you have bellsouth available you may want to consider their DSL @ $24.95 a month
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Good News/Bad News
Good News: I finally got it DLed
Bad news : I learned i can't keep a plane in air.
When i get into i dive my controls seem to be sluggish.
Also for some reason when i tried to set my JS commands my Js has went completly inoperable any suggestions
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Have you calibrated you joystick in windows and in game(clipboard - Setup/controls/joystick/calibrate stick)?
Also, if control get sluggish in dive.... check your speed: if youre too fast your plane compresses and you loose flight controls authority.
I fly european times evening. If you like you can send me an PM and we can setup some time in training arena for trouble shooting. You can also try to get hold of someone from the trainer corps at trainers@hitechcreations.com. Or just pop into training arena. Most times youll find someone whos willing to help you.
Dont get frustrated: AH has a steep learning curve. But its really worth it, in a few weeks youll think back and laugh.
And WELCOME ;)
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Thanks for the info. I once played a land warfare sim that also had steep learning curve but now i'm considered a major threat. So i'll keep crashing along.;)
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This game is some of the best $ I've spent. The learning curve is good, the challenge is even better.
Word of advise, don't get caught up in the stats, it's all about having fun. Even veteran pilots get shot down. ( I know because I actually shot a couple down and was amazed to see their name pop up) New guys, like myself, will get shot down alot. The cool thing is for $14.95 a month you get all the plane you can crash!
ONEiJAQ
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Originally posted by bigsky406
This game is some of the best $ I've spent. The learning curve is good, the challenge is even better.
Word of advise, don't get caught up in the stats, it's all about having fun. Even veteran pilots get shot down. ( I know because I actually shot a couple down and was amazed to see their name pop up) New guys, like myself, will get shot down alot. The cool thing is for $14.95 a month you get all the plane you can crash!
ONEiJAQ
Truer words were never spoken. Rank means sh** regarding skill. you can easily obtain a very good ranking, without displaying any skill at all. And some of the 'lower' ranked... well, you dont want to meet them in a dark alley. Then theres also the fact that overall rank can be very different from fighter rank for example.
Me personally dont care at all for my rank. (As you can easily see when checking my stats). I do monitor K/D and Hit% though, since they give me an impression of improvement (or none). Always dependant on the plane i fly of course.
Have fun. Thats more important than anything.
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Agreed. I follow my rank but am more concerned about having fun and, quite honestly, making a good account of myself. For instance, if I show up alone at an enemy airfield and end up getting shot down, I don't really mind as long as I feel they had to put some effort into shooting me down. I feel kinda like, "hey, there was five of them and one of me, but they had to work to get me...".
For rankings, I mostly keep track of my kills per hour (or is it sortie?) and hit percentage to see if I'm doing any better statistically. I also always look at the ratio of sorties flown to death. I get a little bumbed if I get killed in over half sorties flown. Luckily, I usually survive over half my flights, but not by much. Of course, that doesn't mean I didn't bail or get captured, or ditch a lot. But I don't mind those and figure a ditch, being quite a challenge sometimes, is underated by the game.
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I have noticed i seem to always be the slowest plane in the sky. Yes i am on dial up so i expected delay and lag but.
'Is there a way to fix this.
Also i notice i always black out in turns that are not as tight as planes i am fighting. Why is this any ideas?
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well the blackout is you are pulling too many G's...
you may be fighting a plane with a tighter turning radius, and you just can't hang with it.
may i also recommend, in setup / flight settings uncheck "enable stall limiter"
it allows you to push the plane to the edge.
also, mapping look forward up to your views helps in those turns. look in that position, and "ride the edge of blackout" like most do. hold the tunnle vision so a small view is available, that way you dont black out totally.
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
I have noticed i seem to always be the slowest plane in the sky. Yes i am on dial up so i expected delay and lag but.
'Is there a way to fix this.
Also i notice i always black out in turns that are not as tight as planes i am fighting. Why is this any ideas?
You blacking out for two reasons.
1. Youre going too fast while turning.
2. Youre turning too tight.
Both is not good, since when blacking out your plane loses its Energy, ie its bleeding speed without gaining altitude.
In other words: The slower you fly, the tighter you can turn. Thats like running around a corner. The faster you run, the wider the turn gets.
For each plane, theres an ideal 'corner speed' wich means the speed where it can do a 360° turn in the least amount of time. Below that speed you might be able to turn tighter, but since youre so slow you will take longer to turn around. I think theres a chart for this data somewhere on http://www.netaces.org .
What you want to do is: Either turn in the vertical (immelman) or at least convert your speed into altitude (that way you dont loose the Energy) untill your at corner speed, then turn around and dive to gain back the speed (ie converting the altitude back into speed). Doing that you dont loose your speed as you would by simply pulling a flat turn. This might be the reason why your always 'the slowest plane'.
Of course some planes are better turners than others. A P51 cant turn as tight as a Spitfire V, but still i had Ponies fly circles around my Spit just because the pilot was pulling the edge way better than i did. But dont worry about that too much, it comes with training and practice.
And Mustaines recommendation of disabling stall limiter is very good. It might be a bit more difficult to stay in the air at first, but in the long run, the limiter only costs you a lot of performance.
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Originally posted by Eagle Eye
Thanks for the info. I once played a land warfare sim that also had steep learning curve but now i'm considered a major threat. So i'll keep crashing along.;)
Here is a step by step learning plan..
1. Learn to die
2. Learn to take off
3. Learn to crash
4. Learn to land
5. Learn some ACM
6. Learn to shoot someone down
7. Learn to die
Im still on step one. :lol :aok
All planes have their ups and downs.. its all in the hands of the pilot.. Hammy can fly a kite with guns and shoot folks down , BullZ and Cobia can use the A20 as a fighter very sucessfully, and the LTARS and Dirty30 are uber in the GVs. Thats why step 1 is important.... charge after the horde and learn the skills of the enemy......... and then die. ha ha... :aok
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Welcome to the world of AH!!
A few tips.
1. WEP, War Emergency Power default mapped to "P". It will overheat your engine but does give it a boost.
2. Read http://www.netaces.org it has all the info you need about learnign to fly a war bird. Read up on the planes by reading Soda´s plane evaluation. Find a plane you understand how it should be flown and stick with it. Plane jumping is bad for both gunnery and flying skills. Each gun has its own ballistics and each plane its own characteristics.
3. Learn to understand the concept of energy.
In short.
Energy is the sum of altitude and speed.
Hence you can transform your current energy into speed by giving up altitude and into altitude by giving up speed.
If you dive you transform altitude into speed. If you climb you transform speed into altitude.
By accellerating in level flight you only build up very little energy as you dont build up any altitude.
When you flat turn you nothing but burn energy. Your energy state will be significantly lower after the turn as you have lost alot of speed.
If you instead do a immelman (half loop with half roll at the top) you reverse 180 degree just as with the flat turn but you climb in the manouver so you transform speed into altitude. Hence you dont burn nearly as much energy.
Part of the reason that you feel slowest could be that you flat turn in all your reversals. Hence burn a ton of E while the other pilots conserve theirs.
4. Learn to deal with higher targets.
One of the most common death reasons for noob pilots is that they climb directly at higher targets. DONT EVER do that unless you KNOW that you have more E then the enemy.
If you do this you will stall and fall out of the climb which leaves you hanging like a cherry on a branch waiting to be picked.
Instead when you see a higher target near you extend AWAY from him and when you have about 3k distance start climbing. If he comes for you, watch him and as he is 1.5k behind you break hard left or right. He is comming from up high he will be fast and have a very wide turn rate. He wount hit you, most of the time. Once your turned extend away from him again and climb. Eventually you will be co alt with him. This doesnt mean that you have the same energy state. As you just came out of a climb you will need time to rebuild speed. Do so and then consider attacking him. NOT before you have completed this should consider attacking a higher target.
5. PATIENCE
Beeing patient is what its all about. Point 4 is the situation where you need it the most but you should always be patient when flying. Especially when dealing with high targets but also when flying to battle. You should never fly into a battle without building E first. Always climb.
If a base you wana defend is under heavy attack. Be patient pick the closest base and fly to the base you wana defend. Dont up from it or you will be picked off while you are trying to either takeoff or build some E.
Good luck and see you in the skies.
Tex