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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Raptor on August 10, 2005, 02:15:42 AM
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375th, FS 361st FG, 8th AF
(http://www.snafudiecast.com/TDRP51BLUE.jpg)
(http://www.aikensairplanes.com/images/drw5001.jpg)
I am finding pictures of a blue one as well as OD one. I think OD would be more likely but is there any chance this bird was also blue?
(I skinned it as blue but can easily change it to OD)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1123657995_blue.jpg)
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The us marking looks weird leme send you mine. Looks much better.
Looks good can you get a close pic so we can see chipping.
(lookin for info)
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I'm doubting the blue one existed, but I'm not the one to ask about these things.
Where's Guppy? :D
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I doubt the blue one existed too, but if it did it would be a rather unique P51 skin.
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Originally posted by Raptor01
I doubt the blue one existed too, but if it did it would be a rather unique P51 skin.
Yes i couldn't find anything on it sorry. Better ask guppy tho
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Either way Blue or OD ... I would extend the color down closer to the exhaust pipes on the nose ... looks a little short compared to the pics.
Also, where the blue runs up onto the fuselage, I would blur or smudge the edges. From the pictures it appears that they used a little overspray in that area so that the lines are really distinct.
Nice job BTW !!!
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sweet i'd love to fly a blue pony!
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the blue one did exist and was not alone...i have a pic somplace(cant quite remeber, i will dig it out)
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Out of town on a really slow comp :)
The vets of the 361st have said no blue camo birds in thier group. Despite this, the debate has raged for years on whether or not it happened. It stems from those well known color photos.
I'm in the camp of it didn't happen. It doesn't make sense. What does make sense is that a number of groups did OD camo on Natural metal birds in preparation for a possible move to the continent after the invasion.
Since they were in more of a tactical air mode at that point it made sense they'd not want to be seen as easily from above.
The color photos have always looked OD to me as well. Lou IV the CO's bird looks to have been waxed so its a bit shinier, but E2-S clearly looks matt OD paint to me.
Personally I'd go with the OD camo and lose the blue.
Dan/CorkyJr
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Originally posted by SELECTOR
the blue one did exist and was not alone...i have a pic somplace(cant quite remeber, i will dig it out)
Dig man...!
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Originally posted by SELECTOR
the blue one did exist and was not alone...i have a pic somplace(cant quite remeber, i will dig it out)
Don't go by restored Mustangs. Lots of folks have painted their 51s in that blue and it looks lousy.
I've never seen a photo that shows a 361st Mustang with blue top camo. Its all been speculation on the part of model builders etc.
Dan/CorkyJr
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I thought it was deterlimed the "blue" mustang were just an artefact from a very old picture ?
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http://www.p38.com/images/Pic00023.jpg (http://www.p38.com/images/Pic00023.jpg)
like this?
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Originally posted by killnu
http://www.p38.com/images/Pic00023.jpg (http://www.p38.com/images/Pic00023.jpg)
like this?
Yep, restored and wrong :)
This one has been done accurately with the help of the pilot whose markings it is in.
(http://www.mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/survivors/pages/picfiles/44-74543/44-74543_01_jc1.jpg)
More info and photos here:
http://www.mustangsmustangs.net/p-51/survivors/pages/44-74543.shtml
That's as accurate as warbird schemes come. It's OD camo too :)
Dan/CorkyJr
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Is that white paint on the fuseloge around E2 or bare metal? Hard to tell and had the same question when I saw another picture.
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Originally posted by Raptor01
Is that white paint on the fuseloge around E2 or bare metal? Hard to tell and had the same question when I saw another picture.
Polished metal on the restored E2-B. Matt OD camo on the top of fuselage and wings.
Dan/CorkyJr
Pretty bird isn't it? :)
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Anyone see anything remotely blue in the image outside of the star and bar? :)
I talked to Urban Drew at an airshow years ago now about the "blue" camo. He said they never had it. He's flying E2-S in the photo.
Dan/CorkyJr
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1123922585_louiv.jpg)
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here is what it looks like olive drab. I just got PSP9 today and it has some nice effects I'm playing around with. I like the look of E2-A over E2-S and might change it to that bird if I can get ahold of some more detailed pictures.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/201_1123963602_od.jpg)
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A brief note of what appears to be blue paint applied to Mustangs.
Aging Kodachromes from the late '30s and 1940s have dye issues. Greens frequently develop a blue hue from exposure to heat and light.
To my knowledge, no P-51s had blue paint applied.
My regards,
Widewing
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Example of what Widewing said.
Blue 38 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=146453)
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Check this out......
(http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/ElCentro2004/Sampler/P51.jpg)
(http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/ElCentro2004/Sampler/F16AndP51HistoricFlight.jpg)
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Originally posted by BBQ_Bob
Check this out......
You would think that after spending better than a million bucks buying and maintaining a P-51D, the owner would spend $50 on a book that showed the proper paint scheme colors.
I recently saw a Ferrari with a tacky after-market wing bolted on it, proving that money cannot overcome bad taste...
Here's two more examples of P-51 owners who got it wrong big time: Both use blue where vintage Kodachromes undeniably show OD green.
(http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery/361g/bott4.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/LouIV.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/Cutters.jpg)
There are 5 or 6 P-51s that have been painted in 361st Fighter Group colors where blue was substituted for OD green.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Widewing
You would think that after spending better than a million bucks buying and maintaining a P-51D, the owner would spend $50 on a book that showed the proper paint scheme colors.
Just goes to show you that you can't even get realism in the real world.
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damn I want to build Lou IV! I love that one!
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I wonder if they're not allowed to paint real camo colors because they're civilian aircraft...?
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Originally posted by sullie363
Example of what Widewing said.
Blue 38 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=146453)
Now, as far as the P-38s go, or actually F-5s I guess, I think there WERE blue ones. Haze Camouflage or haze paint, something to that effect.
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I've started skinning LOU IV (E2 C)
I love that plane. :)
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The haze color was used on recon 38s, but that one is no recon bird. Also the blue puddles sort of give it away as a color shifting photo.
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Originally posted by Dux
I wonder if they're not allowed to paint real camo colors because they're civilian aircraft...?
Naw... they can.
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The blue ones look nice though don't they! ;)
Now someone please skin the Lancs! ;) ;)