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Title: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: Sparks on August 10, 2005, 02:37:14 AM
Ref your earlier thread on A319 performance - Boeings answer to "need more power".....

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/43_1119280592_meinfrontofge90.jpg)

Yours truly in front of the 777LR motor - a GE90-115 derated, yes derated , to 110,000lbs of thrust.  Two of these on a lightly loaded 777-200 was IMPRESSIVE .

none of your under powered aircraft here  :D
Title: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: deSelys on August 10, 2005, 02:58:34 AM
Are you trying to compensate for something? ;)
Title: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on August 10, 2005, 03:35:31 AM
those engines never have to run 100 percent.
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Post by: beet1e on August 10, 2005, 05:35:08 AM
GE? Pah! RR is better!
Title: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: CyranoAH on August 10, 2005, 05:46:03 AM
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Originally posted by beet1e
GE? Pah! RR is better!


Check the RR Trent 900 :)

(http://www.techno-science.net/Illustrations/Aero/A380/Sites/Rolls-Royce_Trent900_8.JPG)

Daniel
Title: Re: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: Ripsnort on August 10, 2005, 07:22:37 AM
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Originally posted by Sparks
Ref your earlier thread on A319 performance - Boeings answer to "need more power".....


Yours truly in front of the 777LR motor - a GE90-115 derated, yes derated , to 110,000lbs of thrust.  Two of these on a lightly loaded 777-200 was IMPRESSIVE .

none of your under powered aircraft here  :D

Great pic Sparks! How's your business trip so far? We won't be around this week-end as we're heading to the ocean, but if you're back in town before Friday, lets attempt to get together for lunch.

Re:Pic. I believe a 737 fuslage will fit inside that bugger...
Title: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: Sparks on August 10, 2005, 09:29:32 AM
Hi Rip !

India sucked the big one !! over 60% of the crew got sick (and that was with all of us being VERY careful) . Mumbai was ...... wet .... and filthy .......

Got back to Seattle and had my plans changed.  I left straight away to drive to LA with all our spares and to spend a couple of weeks down there . Sorry to have missed ya .

Thats a great airplane BTW.

Sparks
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Post by: superpug1 on August 10, 2005, 04:09:47 PM
ya, those engine r the 777 r awsum. I was in a briefing with the CO of the 20th Bomber Squadron in randolph, he said the when the b52s go through the modernization programs  they may get 4 of those, or maybe whatever is on the newer 747s. can u imagine that, the engines on a 52 only put out 17,000 each. thats almost a 1000 percent improvement in thrust. hehe, u could carpet bomb with moabs with that kind of power:aok
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Post by: Wolfala on August 10, 2005, 04:40:53 PM
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Originally posted by superpug1
ya, those engine r the 777 r awsum. I was in a briefing with the CO of the 20th Bomber Squadron in randolph, he said the when the b52s go through the modernization programs  they may get 4 of those, or maybe whatever is on the newer 747s. can u imagine that, the engines on a 52 only put out 17,000 each. thats almost a 1000 percent improvement in thrust. hehe, u could carpet bomb with moabs with that kind of power:aok


Kinda makes you wonder why they didn't re-engine earlier. I mean hell, they took the JT's out of the KC-135's years ago and put HBP fans.
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Post by: Dago on August 11, 2005, 06:54:04 PM
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Originally posted by Sparks
Hi Rip !

India sucked the big one !! over 60% of the crew got sick (and that was with all of us being VERY careful) . Mumbai was ...... wet .... and filthy .......

Got back to Seattle and had my plans changed.  I left straight away to drive to LA with all our spares and to spend a couple of weeks down there . Sorry to have missed ya .

Thats a great airplane BTW.

Sparks


One of my coworkers wants me to go with him to India on a business trip.  I am trying like heck to avoid it.   To many from work that have gone there have gotten sick.

dago
Title: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: Sparks on August 11, 2005, 10:39:57 PM
Dago,

IMHO if can avoid going then don't go.  This was a well organised event and we had all been well primed on safe practices, we all ate only in the hotels (which were 5 star name brand), drank only bottled water etc. but many were sick.  Several spent days in bed and needed to use their emergency antibiotics. A few of the guys I worked with were still bad back here.

Out of 35 crew all of us, bar none, came away saying we would never go back.  I have a freind working over there and he likes it but he has a rare view of the place.

I have never witnessed such intense and widespread poverty, filth and squalor in my life - it was truly depressing.  It probably exists elsewhere but for me it was enough......
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Post by: beet1e on August 12, 2005, 04:28:46 AM
Sparks - sorry to hear you got ill.

I feared the worst when going to Indonesia in 1997 - like India, in some parts it's a poverty stricken hell hole. I had injections - boosters for Polio, Tetanus, and a new jab for Hepatitis A - the water borne hepatitis. The hotel staff warned me not to drink the tap water, and even provided free bottled water. I always checked that the seals were unbroken. In bars, I drank only bottled beers - nothing from open containers, nothing from a drinking vessel that had been washed in tap water, no drinks with ice. And I was OK...

I assume you took all these precautions - so do you think it was the food that got you? I've heard (old info) that food refrigeration is relatively unheard of in India, and one awful story about a meat market: The meat for sale would be open, and would attract flies, ie be covered in them. When the seller came to cut the meat, he'd simply scrape the flies off the meat using the same knife that he used to cut it. :eek:

I'd love to see India, but have baulked for the health reasons. Of four people I know who went, on separate visits (now five including yourself) all became ill, some losing considerable weight in the process.
Title: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: FalconSix on August 12, 2005, 10:03:03 AM
Different natural bacterial environment. Takes about two weeks for your stomach to adjust. Same thing everywhere you go, but in India and similar places you get more exposed.
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Post by: Hawklore on August 12, 2005, 01:36:15 PM
No more the trouble of birds being sucked into engines..

Thats just gonna purtee it..

Now we gotta worry about the small kit planes and gliders..

:lol
Title: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: Sparks on August 13, 2005, 02:24:29 AM
I was a lucky one Beet - I was OK one of the 25% :) .

Falcon I've travelled for most of the last 2 1/2 years and understand about different environments and adjusting. Two days in bed puking and s*****g at the same time is not adjusting ........


We only had bottled water or beers (all sealed), no salads even brushed your teeth in bottled water.  It'll still get ya.
No matter which high class hotel you eat in it's a crap shoot as to who's handled your food, which market it's from and which slum the waiters live in.  Roll the dice and chow down.

IMHO Beet no matter how wonderful the thing you want to see is (e.g. Taj Mahal) it will be ruined by it's surroundings and the fact its not looked after.  They ran a tour for our folks to the Taj and they all said the experience as a whole was not one they want to repeat.
Title: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: Sparks on August 13, 2005, 02:36:41 AM
Aparently this is GE's first concept for the Dreamliner  :D

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/43_1123918415_newboeing.jpg)
Title: Beetle - Boeing use REAL engines .....
Post by: Staga on August 13, 2005, 04:19:37 AM
Are those jettisonable?
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Post by: Hawklore on August 13, 2005, 08:14:32 PM
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Originally posted by Staga
Are those jettisonable?


They drop at around 15k feet for a slow float down via controllable parachute.