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Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: deSelys on August 11, 2005, 04:28:23 PM
Not safe for work if you're a clergyman...

Go to google, select pictures, type in 'skydive', hit OK, look at 1st pic.


Nuff said.



I'm still waiting for my first dock of this kind tho...
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: eskimo2 on August 11, 2005, 05:57:36 PM
You have nice breasts.

eskimo
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Chairboy on August 11, 2005, 06:06:45 PM
Skydiving seems neat, but this is part of why I do NOT skydive.  Can anyone tell what's wrong with this movie clip I took last week?

http://hallert.net/misc/n9085g-fast-taxi.avi
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Skydancer on August 11, 2005, 06:10:07 PM
Still think its madness to jump out of a perfectly servicable aircraft! Parachuting is an escape method only for me thanks! ;) :lol
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: eskimo2 on August 11, 2005, 06:50:50 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Skydiving seems neat, but this is part of why I do NOT skydive.  Can anyone tell what's wrong with this movie clip I took last week?

http://hallert.net/misc/n9085g-fast-taxi.avi


Was he taking off on the taxiway?

eskimo
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Heretic on August 11, 2005, 08:11:47 PM
Skydancer,

I'm ex 82nd airborne.    Is it madness to step out of a perfectly functioning aircraft?   Answer is YES!      But, then again when you are young,dumb, and impressionable, anything to get that adrenalin rush is madness.
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 11, 2005, 09:12:36 PM
I remember seeing on the news part of a video that was shot by a ...former skydiver.
It was his first time shooting video while skydiving and you could tell he was all exited and happy about it while discribing what he was seeing on the way down.

Right up to the part where he said and I quote "oh no"
that was when he realised he forgot to put his chute on.

Needless to say that is where the news station stopped showing the film.
Im sure he probably had alot more interesting things he also said. before they had to clean up his body with a ink blotter.

LOL you keep jumping out of aircraft and have fun. I'll just stay right down here on terra firma and enjoy the veiw from below.
Right up to the point where I get to cringe say "ewwwe OH MAN!"

Who knows. I might even make a couple bucks selling the local coroners a couple mops and some plastic baggies LOL
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: GtoRA2 on August 11, 2005, 10:43:15 PM
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Still think its madness to jump out of a perfectly servicable aircraft! Parachuting is an escape method only for me thanks! ;) :lol



I bet statisticaly speaking, sky diving is safer then riding a crotch rocket in trafic. (or a car for that mater)
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Sandman on August 11, 2005, 11:32:57 PM
Speaking of... anyone hear from Santa lately?
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Chairboy on August 12, 2005, 08:18:13 AM
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Was he taking off on the taxiway?

eskimo
Almost looked like it, didn't it?  He was taxiing, and at quite a clip.  Some of these guys dive straight into the pattern at like 4000 fpm too, and I've seen the jump plane on short final when its jumpers are landing, and this is from a 12,000 foot jump altitutde.
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: CyranoAH on August 12, 2005, 08:30:45 AM
Yep, that's typical in some makes of airplane. Here in Ampuriabrava they use Pilatus and they just go vertical down after the drop.

Quite impressive to look at, but from what I've heard, lots of pilots with ear damage due to the rapid change of alt.

Daniel
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: deSelys on August 12, 2005, 08:34:06 AM
Sandman,

I think that he's doing fine. I believe that he is in Russia at the moment (skydiving of course). I don't exchange mails with him but I keep an eye on his dropzone's website and there are recent pics of him in the gallery.

GtoRA2, the risk is indeed about the same as riding a bike in traffic. Of course, if you ride or jump conservatively, you have less chances to have an accident than if you act aggressively (driving at high speed or making high performance landings). However, I honestly don't think that skydiving is safer than driving a car. Like scuba diving, the dangers are very real and you have to approach the sport with respect. Like a popular GoFast T-shirt claims, "You'll be fine as long as you don't do anything stupid" ;)

Drediock I'm not calling you a liar but this is a pure BS story. You can't talk during free fall (well you can but the 120 mph wind makes it totally unintelligible) and this video is most certainly fake. There is a lot of urban legends going on about a videoman forgetting to put on his rig before jumping. I believe that all those originate from a true incident which happened in the early 80s in the UK: an experienced jumper was videoing tandems after a night of work. He was seriously tired and, at the end of the day, forgot indeed to put on his rig. This fact was unnoticed by all during the climb to alt because the videocams of those days were heavy and bulky and were strapped on a special harness (now they are mostly fixed on a helmet) and this harness made the absence of rig less noticeable.
The poor guy jumped to his doom without realizing it. A terrible detail is that the tandem master immediately noticed what was wrong when his buddy flew in front of him to video the fall of the tandem pair. He explained later that he had to act like nothing special was happening because trying to grab his friend during the opening would have greatly endangered the tandem passenger... Talk about a hell of a choice...
AFAIK, the tape was studied by the police and then kept by his friends who never made it public.

Chairboy, it seems that the pilot was in a hell of a hurry ;). I have the chance to sump at a DZ which is a bit of a tandem factory. It has disadvantages but OTOH the planes are big and require higher ratings for the pilots (i.e. single and multi-turbines). No hotheads inexperienced cessna pilots here. Most are professional and don't take risks.
BTW, if you want to fly for free I recommend you to pass the rating to be able to drop skydivers. It will pay your flying hours and skydivers are generally a fun bunch of people.
Thanks for your posts about your progression as a pilot, BTW. I really enjoy to read them and love your tongue-in-cheek humor.

Stay safe and have fun
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Post by: lazs2 on August 12, 2005, 08:42:47 AM
skyprancer... maybe you can vote to get it banned?

lazs
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: slimm50 on August 12, 2005, 08:45:24 AM
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Originally posted by SEgunner
Skydancer,

I'm ex 82nd airborne.    Is it madness to step out of a perfectly functioning aircraft?   Answer is YES!      But, then again when you are young,dumb, and impressionable, anything to get that adrenalin rush is madness.

My Dad was in Airborne (187th Abn, RCT, Korea). When I was little I asked him if he had the time and the money to do whatever he wanted would he take up skydiving (he was around late 30s at this time). He said "Are you crazy. I wouldn't do that again for anything."  I said "But you did it in the Army." His reply: "Yeah, but I was only 19 at the time!"
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Skydancer on August 12, 2005, 12:38:29 PM
Sheesh do you guys take everything I say seriously! You haven't before why start now! :lol :lol

Lazs are you trying to bring guns into it again ( stifling a yawn ) ;)
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Hawklore on August 12, 2005, 01:46:54 PM
Thats way too fast of a taxi!!

Good God!

Thats almost take off speed!

He slammed the brakes and flaps toward the end..
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Chairboy on August 12, 2005, 02:31:24 PM
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Thats way too fast of a taxi!!

Good God!
No kidding!

There's another guy that flies a Caravan to drop skydivers, and I've never had a problem with him.  It's this 182 that scares the crap out of the pilots around here.
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: lazs2 on August 12, 2005, 02:37:18 PM
cueball... why guns?  there are a multitude of things that you want your nanny to ban besides guns.

lazs
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: wrag on August 12, 2005, 03:00:46 PM
Was told to avoid Skydiving.

I'm one of those people that would more then likely wait a little longer each jump before pulling the cord.

Eventually I'd pull the cord too late. :(

Which fits the pattern I started after I returned to the U.S.

3 car crashes within a month.  Finally totaled that Spitfire :( Glade I had a roll bar in it.  Several motorcycle accidents.  It was a Norton 750 Commando. Reported to be the fastest production bike of that year.  About 11 second in the 1/4 mile.  This one had shaved heads racing heads as the original heads were cracked and all they had in stock at the time was the racing heads.  Man you could lay that thing over in a turn.  Those Avon tires were sticky :)  Wore out fast though :(

oh well..........
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: TheThang on August 12, 2005, 03:54:08 PM
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
I bet statisticaly speaking, sky diving is safer then riding a crotch rocket in trafic. (or a car for that mater)


Friend fell off his R1 at 70 mph on highway. Bikes totaled hes beat up pretty bad. :D
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Skydancer on August 12, 2005, 04:09:57 PM
Enlighten me Lazs. Like what?

But Thang if his chute didn't open he'd be worse than beat up! He'd be jam!
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Chairboy on August 12, 2005, 04:27:51 PM
For Sale: Parachute
Like new.  Only used once, never opened.
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: Hawklore on August 12, 2005, 09:12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
For Sale: Parachute
Like new.  Only used once, never opened.
:rofl
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: StSanta on August 13, 2005, 12:15:49 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Speaking of... anyone hear from Santa lately?


Still lurking around, not posting much :D. Finding it hard to get time to it.
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Wrag said:
Was told to avoid Skydiving.

I'm one of those people that would more then likely wait a little longer each jump before pulling the cord.


Well technically speaking, there aren't many chords out there for you to pull :D. Your automatic activation device might do your job for ya though and if you survive that, I hope yer tough enough to survive the flaming from other jumpers that's sure to come :D

I get your point. There are a bunch of people with the same nature in the sport - before BASE jumping became popular there was a lot of 'em. I just remind habitual low pullers that they can't beat the record - only a tie is possible. Having said that, I've been lower than I wanted to a few times. It happens and it doesn't take much. Loss of altitude awareness or outside circumstances (someone below/above you) can result in a low pull. It *is* however, better than a no-pull.

Have to say; skydiving is inherently dangerous and statistically speaking more dangerous than going by car or motorcycle. The current statistics show that one out of every thousand skydivers die per year.

There's a long list of things that can kill you that non skydivers tend not to know - freefall collisions, turbulent air at landing, canopy collision, freefall into canopy collision, low hook turn, low turn, collisions with other flying objects, failure to properly handling emergency procedures, successfully handling emergency procedures and so on and so on.

In the beginning I was telling everyone how safe the sport is. Nowadays I tellum how dangerous it is.

Skydiving is incredibly rewarding. It's not just about the adrenaline, but it's actually a sport. There are many technical aspects of both freefall and canopy piloting to master that it takes a good deal of time to get good at. In for instance the discipline I'm participating in (Freefly), getting halfway decent in the basics will take somewhere between 500-1000 jumps. And then then real work begins.


If you stay in the sport, it'll take whatever innocence and pretenses you have about life and rip them to small little pieces. Both good and bad. And if you want to *stay* in the sport, you gotta learn to deal with serious injuries and death. It's likely you're gonna see some ugly ****. Your outlook and priorities in life may change (mine did). There's both good and bad in that.

But, you get to do cool stuff:

(http://www.njfk.dk/uploads/freefly_claus_jakobhd2.jpg)

Notice the colours on my jumpsuit? (I'm the guy in headdown, other guy is Jakob, my sisters boyfriend and my best friend)
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: CyranoAH on August 13, 2005, 12:20:17 PM
Jeez Santa, you make aerobatics look safe! :D

Daniel
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: StSanta on August 13, 2005, 12:22:33 PM
Aerobatics - the sport for skydivers who cannot jump because of injuries or low funds. :D :rofl

Oh sorry if it came across a bit macho - just telling you how I see it.

It's funny; I've gone through this:

1) Scared but excited
2) Excited
3) Frustrated but excited
4) Cocky and excited
5) Scared but excited.

It's fun stuff though.
Title: Wanna know why I skydive?
Post by: lazs2 on August 14, 2005, 09:46:14 AM
skyprancer... like riding without a helmet or driving without seatbelsts on for instance.

lazs