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Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 05:55:05 AM
Still got paintchips and a few little things left to do

(http://www.cyberonic.com/~kreed/braz1.jpg)
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: SkyChimp on August 12, 2005, 06:08:14 AM
Step area doesn't look right looks like you did a blob and blurred it.

(Edit) again the chipping around nose panel lines don't look right:p
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: SkyWolf on August 12, 2005, 07:28:55 AM
Looks pretty sweet to me.
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 09:09:07 AM
Tried a slightly different way of wing weathering (no chips yet),
comments?

(http://www.cyberonic.com/~kreed/braz.jpg)
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: SkyChimp on August 12, 2005, 09:21:06 AM
Yup step area :D
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: SkyChimp on August 12, 2005, 09:25:27 AM
Well i've been working on a few effects. If u trust me send me a copy if you don't send me a copy of bmp.:aok
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 09:28:48 AM
Bmp is prob all that would work, PSP file is 35mb+!!!!!!!.

Hope you have broadband 1mb bmp

(http://www.cyberonic.com/~kreed/P47D251.bmp)
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Mustaine on August 12, 2005, 09:54:36 AM
have to say i love what you did with the cowl flaps, and how they sort of look "open"

great job on the rivets too.... did you use multiple dots (1 black 1 white)?
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 09:59:50 AM
Thanks
Cowl flaps only done one side at the moment.

All about exagerating certain things to ger a simulated 3d effect. For eg the ailerons, trim tabs (done usian gaussian blur of solid line).

Rivets are 3 seperate single dot layers.

1) Black rivets
2) White rivets
3) Copy of white rivets run over with an eraser brush set to 25%. Do multiple passes you get left with the effect of some being lighter than others. (looks like paint worn off them). Set opacity slightly higher than the original white layer.

Can't remember who first thoguht of it, someone here, but it looks great.

Paint chips is the bit I haven't quite got the hang of yet.
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Mustaine on August 12, 2005, 10:16:11 AM
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Thanks
Cowl flaps only done one side at the moment.

All about exagerating certain things to ger a simulated 3d effect. For eg the ailerons, trim tabs (done usian gaussian blur of solid line).

Rivets are 3 seperate single dot layers.

1) Black rivets
2) White rivets
3) Copy of white rivets run over with an eraser brush set to 25%. Do multiple passes you get left with the effect of some being lighter than others. (looks like paint worn off them). Set opacity slightly higher than the original white layer.

Can't remember who first thoguht of it, someone here, but it looks great.

Paint chips is the bit I haven't quite got the hang of yet.
how did you offset them?

IE like this:

..
.


or .. then one "under" the others?
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 10:45:16 AM
I do them one rivet, two space, another rivet - .  .  .  .  .  .
Then the white one ares offset one diagonally with the corners touching the black corners, if that makes sense.
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Mustaine on August 12, 2005, 10:59:27 AM
i guess i am not gettin it....

imagine this is a a zoom in of 3 1 pixel rivets

is this how you are poisitioning them?

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1123862300_rivets.jpg)

if not can you provide an example?

thanks
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 11:07:41 AM
Like this, imagine zoom in also

(http://www.cyberonic.com/~kreed/rivets.jpg)

Rivet, 2 spaces, rivet.
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Mustaine on August 12, 2005, 11:17:58 AM
where's the 3rd "erased" white one then?
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: SkyChimp on August 12, 2005, 11:24:24 AM
Only 2 dots he makes 3 copies and on one he erases to make them fade :D Can i have that text layer for 38g :)
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: United on August 12, 2005, 11:25:09 AM
Id think it would be placed under the first white one.  Then, erased to make it look lighter.  The more erasing, the more faded it would look.
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 11:28:20 AM
Oh I see.
If you take that example as the original, you duplicate it the white layer.
Therefore you have 2 layers but they are directly on top of each other.

Then use the eraser (25%) and randomly go over the duplicate layer 3 times. That way you have 4 shades of white rivets.
Set the dulpicate layer opacity a little higher than the original.

What happens is the rivets from the original layer will show through where the erased ones are at a lower value. All the others give you the random shades of white of the rivets to simulate more 'wear'.

I usually put the duplicate layer above the orignal, but I don't think it would matter which way.


Skychimp - the one I sent to Cit?, you get the P47 bmp from my post?
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: SkyChimp on August 12, 2005, 11:31:08 AM
(http://members.cox.net/38chimp/ex.gif)

cit??
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 11:34:59 AM
The p-38 stencils I sent citabria?
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: SkyChimp on August 12, 2005, 11:36:51 AM
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Originally posted by Kev367th
The p-38 stencils I sent citabria?
 yes!:D
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 11:38:38 AM
Need your email again, its on a different PC.
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: SkyChimp on August 12, 2005, 11:40:16 AM
skychimp(at)cox(dot)net
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 11:42:33 AM
On the way.
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Mustaine on August 12, 2005, 02:15:11 PM
thanks kev, i get what you are saying now
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 12, 2005, 05:40:37 PM
YW Mustaine.

Ok toned the markings down and faded them in places, they looked too clean.

(http://www.cyberonic.com/~kreed/braz2.jpg)
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: SkyChimp on August 12, 2005, 05:45:50 PM
Really fast work can look 100% better :)
(http://members.cox.net/skychimp/chips.jpg)

Btw chipping on marking looks to heavy
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 13, 2005, 03:44:52 AM
Had to change the markings anyway, slight inacurracy, previous pic updated.
All there apart from paint chips, thats the last bit to complete it.
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: SkyChimp on August 13, 2005, 03:57:42 AM
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Had to change the markings anyway, slight inacurracy, previous pic updated.
All there apart from paint chips, thats the last bit to complete it.


:o  You don't like it. I'll work with it some more.
Title: P-47 preview
Post by: Kev367th on August 13, 2005, 05:07:26 AM
Lol wasn't that.
Had a slight inaccuracy in the markings so they needed redoing.
For latest bitmap: ah-skins.