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Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Gunthr on December 07, 2001, 05:57:00 PM
I heard on the radio that Time Magazine is actually considering giving this title to bin Laden. Is Time just floating this idea to see how it is recieved?

I know Time is liberal, but this is going wayyy over the top. Don't they worry about what kind of message we are sending every love muffin with a bag of fertilizer and a gallon of diesel fuel?
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: GRUNHERZ on December 07, 2001, 06:14:00 PM
Hitler was man of the year too, so its not based on good deeds just important ones.

But I really dont want him to receive this title, it should be President Bush.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Tac on December 07, 2001, 08:30:00 PM
Id rather see the guy that makes laden eat his testicles with A-1 sauce on the cover.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Octavius on December 07, 2001, 10:28:00 PM
tac you just want to see testicles  :D
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Animal on December 08, 2001, 11:04:00 AM
by the criteria, he could well receive the title and actually deserve it.
at this point, i still dont know if bush is the right man for the cover. i think bin laden will get it.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Toad on December 08, 2001, 12:19:00 PM
I hope the cover photo is of him lying in his pine coffin, hands crossed over the big hole in his chest where the .50 BMG sniper round went through.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Harppa on December 08, 2001, 01:16:00 PM
From what part is bin Laden a man, that'll makes me wonder...
Real man never kills innocent people.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: easymo on December 08, 2001, 03:13:00 PM
I have to wonder about the look of the time cover. A large red splotch on a cave wall.  Wouldn't people confuse it with some sort of modern art.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Hangtime on December 08, 2001, 04:32:00 PM
The title should go to Rudy Gulianai.

JMHO.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: eaglemkIII on December 08, 2001, 04:34:00 PM
I agree with Hang.

animal (on Eagleace's computer)
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Gadfly on December 08, 2001, 04:58:00 PM
The man of the year should be he who opposes Evil, not creates it.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Qnm on December 08, 2001, 09:13:00 PM
Biblical.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Ozark on December 08, 2001, 10:13:00 PM
I thought the man (person or thing)of the year went to who had the biggest impact on world events.

Rudy Gulianai gets my vote!

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Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: SirLoin on December 09, 2001, 04:46:00 AM
I hope he wins "Corpse Of The Year" at rotton.com
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Maverick on December 09, 2001, 04:02:00 PM
Just a thought,

How many would drop their subsscriptions to time if bin ladin got it??

I don't have one as I learned long ago that time was not anything I cared to read.

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Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Eagler on December 09, 2001, 04:29:00 PM
Time is a comic book for brain dead libs
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: aknimitz on December 09, 2001, 05:25:00 PM
I agree with Hang.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Gunthr on December 09, 2001, 06:48:00 PM
If you think that giving any terrorist the title "MAN OF THE YEAR" is a bad idea, you can fire off a letter to the editor at:

letters@time.com

I wrote and told them I would cancel my subscription if they make this mistake, which is so inappropriate for the times.

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Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: midnight Target on December 10, 2001, 11:57:00 AM
The TIME Man of the Year, is given to the top Newsmaker of the year. This is why Hitler got it, and Stalin got it, and the home computer got it, and Bin Laden should get it. It has nothing to do with good or bad. TIME would be wimping out if they bowed to the brainless Limbites who don't bother to read before they whine.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Eagler on December 10, 2001, 12:21:00 PM
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Originally posted by Tah Gut:
The TIME Man of the Year, is given to the top Newsmaker of the year. This is why Hitler got it, and Stalin got it, and the home computer got it, and Bin Laden should get it. It has nothing to do with good or bad. TIME would be wimping out if they bowed to the brainless Limbites who don't bother to read before they whine.

don't care who got it before, this arse hole chick toejame shouldn't get nothing but a bullet hole in his forehead..
why feed his raghead ego anymore than CNN already does ...
Did they make McVie man of the year?
3/4's of the motivation of these acts are ego driven, why feed it..
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Gunthr on December 10, 2001, 01:00:00 PM
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The TIME Man of the Year, is given to the top Newsmaker of the year.

Amazing powers of observation   ;) You've been reading again, havn't you, Tahgut?

 I don't care about Time's criteria for the "Time Man of the Year" award; I believe it's ill conceived. The name of the award is certainly misleading.

Simply put, I believe its irresponsible to award this title to any terrorist or mass murderer in these times.

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Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: miko2d on December 10, 2001, 02:53:00 PM
Yeah, let's wipe his name out from history, pretend that he never existed. So that in a generation or two our children have to face the same threats all over again without the benefit of prior experience.
 After all, we don't want them have it too easy.

 miko
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: midnight Target on December 10, 2001, 03:03:00 PM
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Amazing powers of observation  You've been reading again, havn't you, Tahgut?

 

Oops, <tosses away little red book>, I guess you all are right......thanks for helping me to be more "right".

I do admit the title "Man of the Year" is unfortunate. They could have called it "newsmaker of the year" or "amazinhunk of the year". Too bad Mr. Luce wasn't thinking ahead 70 years when he came up with the title. Just before we blow Bin Laden away, lets promise to explain what the Time "Man of the Year" is awarded for! Then he won't die happy.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Eagler on December 10, 2001, 03:05:00 PM
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Originally posted by miko2d:
Yeah, let's wipe his name out from history, pretend that he never existed. So that in a generation or two our children have to face the same threats all over again without the benefit of prior experience.
 After all, we don't want them have it too easy.

 miko


I don't think not putting his hairy mug on Time's cover will erase this piece of toejame from history. I just don't believe in rewarding him with such exposure. "Man or Woman of the Year" should be a positive force not a negative one..
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Gunthr on December 10, 2001, 03:29:00 PM
Ok, Tahgut   :)

Miko, you are way, way out in left field, man. I will consider your point of view if you would just be straight-out with it. Leave out the sarcasm, and don't resort to the ridiculous. Who knows, you might persuade me to see it your way ...

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Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: NATEDOG on December 10, 2001, 05:09:00 PM
FDNY get my vote
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: StSanta on December 10, 2001, 05:51:00 PM
I actually agree with Eagler on this one: and I agree completely.

Agree with NATEDOG too.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: miko2d on December 11, 2001, 03:11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Gunthr:
Miko, you are way, way out in left field, man. I will consider your point of view if you would just be straight-out with it. Leave out the sarcasm, and don't resort to the ridiculous. Who knows, you might persuade me to see it your way ...

 How can I refuse such a rational and civil request?
 Here is what I dislike about the "well-meaning" anti-Times posts here.

 I got momentarily puzzled reading Gunthr's post about Time considering OBL for "Man of the year" but thirty seconds of further reading cured my ignorance of what the title stands for.

 Yes, the name is a bit misleading but it is a 70(?) year tradition and there are many more confusing traditions in our society - british queen, non-metric system, etc.

 So I would not think any better of OBL if he does appear on Time cover. Neither will anyone who has posted here who opposes such nomination for the reason that "it could be perceived by some people that we are honoring OBL". Even if someone has doubts, I am sure that an article in the Times behind the cover will take care of the explanation.

 I take serious exception with people who think that they themselves are in no danger of misinterpretation, but impicitely assume that other people are too stupid to figure out what is going on, so better be kept in the dark and fed politically-correct non-controversial BS.

 Don't rush to quote my previous posts here - I still believe that most people (~90%) are too stupid to participate in running our democracy (and most of the remaining 10% are too ignorant) - because it takes a lot of specialised knowlege and intelligence for economic and political decisions.
 But I am pretty sure that on moral issues (such as slaughter of innocents) we can safely rely on our fellow-people or care about them enough to explain a thing or two - especially to our children.

 Otherwise how do we differ from Stalin or Hitler or OBL who believed that general public should be protected from "evil influences" and complicated decisions?

 Year 2001 will not be remembered in History as "Year of Bush Jr." or "Year of Rudy Juliani" or "Year of Brave Firefighters" or "Year of Lax Airport Security" - as deplorable as it may be. It will always be "Year when OBL blew up the Twin Towers".
 I would suggest that their cover show the crumbling towers on fire and a small picture of OBL (preferably dead one) in a corner, but it's their decision. I will be more concerned what will be said in the article.

 miko
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Gunthr on December 11, 2001, 03:59:00 PM
<S> Miko.

I'm not really concerned about how we on the BB would react to bin Laden on the cover of Time Mag, being declared "MAN OF THE YEAR." Or America in general.

Its those people you see dancing in the streets in the Middle East, burning flags and shooting guns in the air that I'm worried about. Or any terrorists anywhere.

If bin Laden gets on the cover, you'l see that image waved all over the place in third world countries and those hard line Muslim extremist schools where terrorism breeds. And probably up on their blackboards in the classroom.

To me, we are at war with terrorism. There is no similarity with past wars. Things cannot procede as normal without acknowledging the difference. Its almost like martial law. We are on a war footing, and you don't aid the enemy in this way, and then try to rationalize it with tortured logic.

You are entitled to your own opinion. But I disagree with it.    :)


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Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Udie on December 11, 2001, 04:16:00 PM
If he dies by dec 31 he doesn't qualify for the cover....


 fingers crossed  ;)
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: hazed- on December 11, 2001, 05:55:00 PM
surely man of the year should go to the bloke whos screwed the most beautiful women?
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: miko2d on December 12, 2001, 12:44:00 PM
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Originally posted by Gunthr:
Its those people you see dancing in the streets in the Middle East, burning flags and shooting guns in the air that I'm worried about...
 If bin Laden gets on the cover, you'l see that image waved all over the place in third world countries.

 <S>
 I see your point though I do not share your concern - those people seem to have ample supply of OBL portraits available without need to rip off Time covers.
 But if you still have reservation about even a remote chance of them using a portrait printed with your financing (through subscription), there is probably an easy way to make sure that his portrait cannot be used by them for the purpose you've described. Like displaying him hanging in the noose with his tongue sticking out or something similar.

hazed-: surely man of the year should go to the bloke whos screwed the most beautiful women?
 OBL may still qualify. I am sure he has been buying wifes of only the highest quality.

 miko
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Gunthr on December 12, 2001, 02:15:00 PM
I guess I could live with that , Miko  :D
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Nifty on December 12, 2001, 03:45:00 PM
Miko's right.  OBL should be on the cover, but potrayed in his current state.  A cowering rat holed up in a cave somewhere, with the good guys coming for his scrawny lil' ass.  

 :mad:  Death is too easy for OBL tho.  Time for some cruel and unusual punishment...
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: mrfish on December 12, 2001, 04:52:00 PM
how you feel about him isnt part of the criterion.

the "award" is issued to the biggest pot stirrer basically, don't get hung up on semantics.
Title: Osama bin Laden: Man of the Year
Post by: Maverick on December 12, 2001, 05:00:00 PM
If they change it from man of the year to corpse of the year I can live with it.

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