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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: StarOfAfrica2 on August 13, 2005, 12:52:07 PM
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Need Russian bomber. Right now the Il-2 is all alone, with the A-20 to help. Dont know much about the Russian bombers, but I've seen people offer the Pe-2 as a possible addition. The Russian fighter lineup definitely needs some additions. The MiG-3 and LaGG-3, the Yak-3...............The MiG would be nice for higher altitude fights, as most of the Russian planes seem to like lower altitudes better.
The P-39 would also work well in the Russian lineup, and work as an early war adversary for the Japanese planeset.
And the Japanese planeset definitely needs some holes filled. The G4M Betty is one glaring example. We need an early war Jap bomber. Ki-27 and Ki-43 would be nice additions also, along with the N1K1 and the J2M. Maybe a Ki-44 also? Although if we got the J2M I wouldnt care so much abotu the Ki-44. :)
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Agreed, we need italian too :(
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Posted August 13 2005.
hehehehe yer all wastin yer time ;) :lol
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well he was right about P39. lol
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well, this is sorta proof that this forum is just for people to beg and not get.
The russian and Japanese plane sets are terrible, and its a real shame since both those nations' planes have a lot to add to the game. For me its the YAK3 and the KI-84 versions that are most lacking but the list is quite long and the only way its gonna get shorter is for these planes to get added. There are a thousand versions of spits and 109s (because they are popular). . .maby its time for some variety here!!
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For me its the YAK3 and the KI-84 versions that are most lacking but the list is quite long and the only way its gonna get shorter is for these planes to get added.
Really?
There are a thousand versions of spits and 109s (because they are popular)
I'd imagine it's more because they were extremely varying planes that served from the first until the last day of the war.
The biggest holes in the Japanese planeset are probably A6M3, Ki43, J2Y, and G4M, and in the Russian planeset the Yak-1, Yak-7, I-16, and the Pe-2, maybe with the LaGG-3 and the Tu-2 tacked on there.
Of course a Fleshed out Italian planeset would be great as well, with a C.200 or G.50, CR 42 and an SM-79... and of course the Macchis we already have are in desperate need of update.
An MS. 406 or a D.520 would be nice for the French as well (the MS 406 also served with the Finns).
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Japanese:
G4M, B6N, D4Y, J2M, Ki-43, Ki-44
Russian:
Tu-2, Pe-2, Pe-8, Yak-3, I-16
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Agreed, we need italian too :(
Give us this one please.
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An MS. 406 or a D.520 would be nice for the French as well (the MS 406 also served with the Finns).
The D.520 was actually a really nice aircraft, with a decent combat record, even in French hands. The germans used the ones they captured as a trainer for a while, then actually pressed it into line service in the balkans as an interceptor. They actually placed an order to have more built.
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You missed two Lyric! :D
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Super P.108 pics. :aok
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You missed two Lyric! :D
No just getting started :D So why are we still messing around with this silly B-25h & it's tiny pop gun of a cannon? Lets stop screwing around & get serious. :rock
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Dang! Wouldn't the recoil possibly hurt the airframe?
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Most B-25H's the skin & air frames warped from its cannon. One can only hope it crumples this plane when that 102mm is fired. :aok
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Sweet, fifty rounds so we can miss twenty nine more times than we already do. :aok
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I suppose then all we need is a track-player playing, "Ride of the Valkyries." Oh, an amplifier too. :D
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The P.108 was built in too few examples to be added in the game anytime soon... and only the prototype of the P.108A was produced. Btw, it was produced in here, where I live.
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If were going to go with a Russian bomber then why not go with their most successful design of the war? The PE-2 was a fine bird but lets compare the two right now http://www.airpages.ru/eng/ru/tu2.shtml
BTW that top speed at altitude equals 340 mph. The top speed for the TU-2 at sea level is 316 mph, a bit under the Mossie. She holds 2,205 lbs of bombs in her bomb bay, over twice as much as the Mossie, and can be loaded with a maximum 6,614 lbs of bombs with all its hard points. That is a serious bombload. And even tho it would slow the airplane down were talking over 2,000lbs more bombload then the B-26 at KI-67 speeds.
There are different accounts of the TU-2s specs, and of course different versions of the aircraft. But they are all impressive. This was a great, great airplane and one we need badly in this game.(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/TU-2-2.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/TU-2-3.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/tu-2-4.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/tu-2-5.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/Rich46yo/tu-2-1.jpg)
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The Japanese could use a legit air to ground attack aircraft. The Ki-45 would fit the bill perfectly. The Ki-45 was assigned the name of "Nick". Imagine the confusion when someone says "watch the Nick diving in". I wish people would start calling the Nik2 by its name (George).
We have the zeke, tony, frank, george, and peggy. The "nick" would fit in nice and fill an obvious gap.
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I wish people would start calling the Nik2 by its name (George).
We have the zeke, tony, frank, george, and peggy.
This would probably take a little recoding for the text by HTC , not a bad idea all in all
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This would probably take a little recoding for the text by HTC , not a bad idea all in all
It wouldn't take any recoding... people call it the Nick because it's alphanumerical designation (N1K 2J) looks like Nick, even thought the allied nickname was the George. It has nothing to do with code.
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I believe there has been a mis-understanding. I meant that for the community to start using the allied code names for the Japanese planes, they must appear that way in game.
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I believe there has been a mis-understanding. I meant that for the community to start using the allied code names for the Japanese planes, they must appear that way in game.
then we should rename all the german planes too, since the allies renamed those too. . .
and if there is something there that screams 'but a 109 is a 109!' and people have some degree of pride associated with it, then I will tell you that we (at least the japanese here amongst us) also know the planes by the names given to them (and the Japanese also renamed U.S. planes. . .but its a winner take all sort of war).
anyway, if there is going to be a renaming or recoding, then I would prefer giving the planes the names given to them by their makers.
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Yep! Call them Shiden, Hayate, Reisen, Hien!
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I understand why most people call the Nik2 the "nikki" or "nik". I find it funny when I call it the "George" and people will pipe up and say "huh, what are you talking about?" "THERE IS A GEORGE COMING AROUND ON YOU!", I'll say again... :lol
The thing about the 109's is that the model were not that different in appearance to call them by seperate names. I'm not syaing it didnt happen, but I'd be willing to bet based on all the US/UK pilot accounts I've read that I've read that the a 109 sighting was called as such. Same as the 190. The Nik2 is a completely different plane than the rest Japanese aircraft.
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The thing about the 109's is that the model were not that different in appearance to call them by seperate names. I'm not syaing it didnt happen, but I'd be willing to bet based on all the US/UK pilot accounts I've read that I've read that the a 109 sighting was called as such. Same as the 190. The Nik2 is a completely different plane than the rest Japanese aircraft.
I think that's not correct. Japanese planes subtypes didn't have their own name... any type had a single name, regardless the subtype (with few exceptions, maybe)... at least, AFAIK.
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We don't actually have the 'George' in AH.
N1K1-J Shiden = 'George'
N1K2-J Shiden Kai = 'George 21'
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I16, yak-3, TU-2,
oscar, ki 84 - c, jack , g4m2 betty,
Thats for starters !
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I think that's not correct. Japanese planes subtypes didn't have their own name... any type had a single name, regardless the subtype (with few exceptions, maybe)... at least, AFAIK.
Exactly my point. An A6Mx was a "zeke" regardless of which model it was. Ditto for the rest of the Japanese aircraft model variations. As Karnak pointed out, the George is still a George (even though a number was added for later variants).
For the 109's... I dont ever recall UK or US pilots calling them out as "Emil's, Fritz's, etc". They referered to them as "109's".
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Ahhh, I understand now... I thought you meant something different.
Bruv, yes to everything but Ki-84C
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why not?
and I have a bunch of stuff to submit soon for the KI-84. . . but I'm afraid to put it up because I don't want it to become a FOTM plane.
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I've always thought that the -IC was produced in low numbers, hence the "no can do", but, after checking some sources, I see there's no exact number, so... anyway, I'd say post your stuff, Ruah, there is a lot of threads about the most absurd and obscure airplanes, why shouldn't you lobby for new versions of a plane that had an effective role in conflict?
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why not?
and I have a bunch of stuff to submit soon for the KI-84. . . but I'm afraid to put it up because I don't want it to become a FOTM plane.
Ki-84-Ic never saw service.
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Any source on that, Karnak? I couldn't find anything decisive about that model.
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Ki-84-Ic never saw service.
I am not refering to the Ic but the Ia which is already in game. . .but I will post the stuff and see what you guys think.
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Can't find anything anywhere that says the KI-84Ic didn't see any service.
Would like to see the KI-84 Ib even more than the C model.
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I am not refering to the Ic but the Ia which is already in game. . .but I will post the stuff and see what you guys think.
When you do, shoot me a PM with the link to the thread, I'm curious. :)
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Any source on that, Karnak? I couldn't find anything decisive about that model.
All evidence I have seen says the Ki-84-Ic had less than 10, maybe less than 5, airframes completed and none delivered.
I had thought Ki-84-Ib had about 500 built, but Busa was saying it was rare.
See Busa's comments at the end of this thread:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,262941.30.html
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Roger that, Karnak, thanks for the link.
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Back to the point, we need more Japanese aircraft. seems to be a bias because it always German iron or American birds that get added or updated
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Back to the point, we need more Japanese aircraft. seems to be a bias because it always German iron or American birds that get added or updated
When's the last time we got a German aircraft added or updated?
In case you're interested, the last time a German aircraft was updated was 2.13, released last spring (Ta 152H-1), and the last time we got a new German aircraft was when they updated the 109 series in 2.05 (released in spring of '05, which was also the last time they updated a German plane before the Ta) and added the G-14. That's 4 years ago.
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in patch 2 wast the 109f updated
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in patch 2 wast the 109f updated
The 109F was updated in 2.05 4 years ago along with the rest of the 109s.
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Can't find anything anywhere that says the KI-84Ic didn't see any service.
Would like to see the KI-84 Ib even more than the C model.
Here here... the 84 Ib would be great.
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In case you're interested, the last time a German aircraft was updated was 2.13, released last spring (Ta 152H-1),
Me 262 was updated last fall, not that it makes 71313's statement much more valid though...
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The P.108 was built in too few examples to be added in the game anytime soon... and only the prototype of the P.108A was produced. Btw, it was produced in here, where I live.
Agreed, you're talking about <50 aircraft which had limited success. Most raids with a few AC they lost 1/3 of the craft. Apparently the engine nacelle guns did nothing for it.
The Axis had some very fine bombers which were used across several fronts and in a multitue of roles, model those first. Here's betting we see an He-111 or Do-217 as the next Axis Buff.
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Italians seem to get the rawest deal but you could argue they played a smaller part.
Soviets get the worst deal lloked at that way so next thing we need is a nice soviet Bomber.