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Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 18, 2005, 02:21:22 PM
If  they  have  a  good  sale  in  their ads, take the ad to  Walmart,
where they will meet the price...............

Dick Forrey of the Vietnam Veterans Association wrote.

"Recently  we  asked  the  local  TARGET store to be a proud  sponsor of
the Vietnam  Veterans  Memorial Wall during our  spring  recognition
event.  We received the following reply  from  the local TARGET
management: 'Veterans do not meet our  area  of  giving.  We only donate
to the arts, social action  groups, gay & lesbian causes, and
education.' "

So  I'm  thinking, if the Vietnam Veterans Memorial Wall and  veterans
in general  do  not  meet their donation criteria,  then something is
really wrong at this TA RGET store. We were  not asking for thousands of
dollars, not even hundreds, just  a small sponsorship for a memorial
remembrance.

As  a  follow-up,  I  E-mailed  the  TARGET  U.S.  corporate
headquarters  and their  response was the same. That's their  national
policy.

Then  I looked into the company further. They will not allow  the
Marines  to collect for 'Toys for Tots' at any of their  stores.  And
during  the recent Iraq deployment, they would  not  allow  families  of
employees  who  were called up for  active  duty  to  continue  their
insurance  coverage while  they were on military service. Then as I dig
further, TARGET  is a French-owned corporatio n.

Now,  I'm  thinking again. If TARGET cannot support American  Veterans,
then why  should  my  family  and I support their  stores  by  spending
our  hard earned  American dollars and  to have  their  profits sent to
France. Without the American  Vets, where would France be today?"

Sincerely,
Dick Forrey
Veterans Helping Veterans
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: myelo on August 18, 2005, 02:30:31 PM
BS (http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp)
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Goth on August 18, 2005, 02:33:41 PM
Doesn't anyone check sources anymore???

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Sandman on August 18, 2005, 02:35:08 PM
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Originally posted by Goth
Doesn't anyone check sources anymore???

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp


No. We are constantly on the look out for a reason to hate corporate America and we will do so regardless of the facts. ;)
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Skuzzy on August 18, 2005, 02:47:01 PM
It makes for better pot stirring.  Much like the way the news is reported today.

Meanwhile, back at the high school science fair....
News Reporter Bob:  The world will implode tomorrow, according to a reliable source at the New Age Science Fair!!!!
Van driving lackey:  Uh, Bob, that ain;t exactly right.
News Reporter Bob:  Who cares, it sells and they will eat it up!
Van driving lackey:  But what happens when the truth comes out?
New Reporter Bob:  Truth?  You have to be kidding!  What news reporter today would dare report the truth?  The truth won't get any ratings.  That is why you are the lackey and I am the reporter.

And so it goes on, and on it will go.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 18, 2005, 03:01:14 PM
doh!  I got snuukered!
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: vorticon on August 18, 2005, 03:03:32 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy


And so it goes on, and on it will go.


you are a cynical old coot today...
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 18, 2005, 03:05:02 PM
ya he's trolling the boards... hey skuzzy, answer that email I sent you...>  The one with the dxdiag for 2003 and xp64 in it.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: JTs on August 18, 2005, 03:24:26 PM
van driving lackey. ohhhh wait until you want your blue bell.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Skuzzy on August 18, 2005, 03:35:18 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
you are a cynical old coot today...
You are confusing cynicism with realism.  :D

Quote
van driving lackey. ohhhh wait until you want your blue bell.
Dunt futz with my Blue Bell.  I was called a lackey on many occasions when driving a delivery truck while working my way through college.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: vorticon on August 18, 2005, 03:44:30 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
You are confusing cynicism with realism.  :).



not if your doing it at every available opertunity, and not when it seems to be for the sole purpose of depressing everyone else...
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: storch on August 18, 2005, 03:51:23 PM
target is french owned eg reason enough to go to wallyworld.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: myelo on August 18, 2005, 04:29:30 PM
Storch, did you read the link I and Goth posted?
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: straffo on August 18, 2005, 04:41:09 PM
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Originally posted by storch
target is french owned eg reason enough to go to wallyworld.


Damm ... less "foie gras" and "Sauterne" for me :(
You wan't me to become poor ??? :confused:
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: vorticon on August 18, 2005, 04:45:29 PM
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Originally posted by straffo
Damm ... less "foie gras" and "Sauterne" for me :(
You wan't me to become poor ??? :confused:


you could always earn money sticking copper and nickel rods into your legs :p
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Skuzzy on August 18, 2005, 04:51:57 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
not if your doing it at every available opertunity, and not when it seems to be for the sole purpose of depressing everyone else...
Ahhh vort, once you accept reality and realize you can do nothing to fix it, everything will fall into place.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 18, 2005, 05:10:41 PM
well at least he can go down to Target and pick up his Prozac again!
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: vorticon on August 18, 2005, 05:15:09 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Ahhh vort, once you accept reality and realize you can do nothing to fix it, everything will fall into place.


yeah the chains of society


errrr



VIVE LE REVOLUTION!!!


:rofl

still does you no good to be *****ing about it on here...
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Skuzzy on August 18, 2005, 05:31:19 PM
Hehe, glad you took that lightly vort.  I intended for it be light.  

I was informed it could have been interpreted as a personal attack.  I will publicly state it was not meant to be one, and offer any apologies to those who may have misunderstood my intent.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: WindX on August 18, 2005, 06:17:26 PM
Last time I checked Target was not french owned.  

Summary of the eRumor
There are different messages urging you to avoid buying anything at Target stores because the company turned down a request for funds for a Vietnam veterans memorial wall, is owned by the French, won't allow collections for Toys For Tots at Christmas, and won't give reservists call for active military duty continued health insurance coverage.
 
 
 The Truth
This is quite an assault on Target stores and is becoming an example of how a rumor can mushroom and pick up momentum along the way.

It started with a man named Dick Forrey.
He is listed as being with Howard County Vietnam Veterans in the state of Indiana.
He says that he did have the experiences both with the local Target store and the Target corporate offices as is described in one of the stories and did originate an email expressing his displeasure.
It is not true, however, that Target categorically refuses to fund Veteran's projects and even Forrey is upset with how large this eRumor has spread.

The Target company is sending a written response to people who inquire about the Forrey story that says that Target gives $2 million per week in the communities where stores are located.  The Target letter says a veteran (referring to Forrey) approached a local store in March, 2002 for a $100 donation to a "moving wall" project.  The response says that any donations by local stores are not in cash but in gift certificates or volunteer time.  Cash is given by the corporate office and in response to official requests for grants.  The letter says that the veteran who asked for the donation should have been given grant information from the store, but was not.  The Target response also says that the company makes donations in three general areas:  education, arts and family violence prevention.  The company is happy to donate to any veterans causes that would fit within those guidelines.  So while it's true that donations would not be given to a veterans project per se, they would be given if the veterans project is within the guidelines.

Regarding Target's ownership, the company is on record as a U.S. firm based in Minneapolis, Minnesota and always has been.
There is no foreign ownership in its past or present that we've been able to find or been presented with evidence about.

Regarding benefits for reservists on active duty, this has been a big issue since so many reservists were called in for service in the Middle East and the National Committee for Employer Support of the National Guard and Reserve has been a watchdog of companies and how they treat reservists.
They list target in the "Outstanding Employer" category which means it has "gone above and beyond the requirements of the law in support of their National Guard and Reserve employees."

So how did such a completely false email come into being?
It's easy to suspect a conspiracy or organized effort against Target but from our viewpoint this appears to have gotten started with the Dick Forrey letter and as others read it and got angry over it, they added other false charges in order to stack the deck.

Last updated 1/24/04
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Sandman on August 18, 2005, 06:20:32 PM
Come on WindX... don't let any facts get in the way.

Fuel the hate.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: storch on August 18, 2005, 06:25:09 PM
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Originally posted by myelo
Storch, did you read the link I and Goth posted?


read?? what ever for?  don't confuse me with facts you fdb!!
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: storch on August 18, 2005, 06:31:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by straffo
Damm ... less "foie gras" and "Sauterne" for me :(
You wan't me to become poor ??? :confused:


all will be forgiven when you become reasonable, renounce frenchydom and emigrate to les etats unis as all intelligent europeans have done for three odd centuries.  you can open a chic restaurant, name it fleur'd flatulence or something trendy like that and become a frazzillionaire.  :D
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: straffo on August 18, 2005, 11:41:54 PM
Fleur flatulence ? thats a new concept :D
Fragrance woul be better , btw did you tried to ate flowers ? it's strange but can taste good .
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: rpm on August 19, 2005, 12:05:29 AM
Customer service is 10 times better at Target than Wally World.
 Enough reason for me to shop there.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: weasel4 on August 19, 2005, 07:06:35 AM
Lets see.
I am now

Confused:rolleyes:
Depressed:(
offended:mad:

I will never shop anywhere again.   I am going to the bathtub now with my hot plate.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: myelo on August 19, 2005, 07:41:28 AM
I used to never be able to understand how people could get duped into things like sending money their credit card numbers to banks in Nigeria. Now I’m starting to get it.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: storch on August 19, 2005, 08:45:56 AM
what?  you mean I didn't win the lotto?
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: weasel4 on August 19, 2005, 09:26:57 AM
Skuzzy..Do you work at Target? Someone (Storch) said you were a greeter there once:lol

Myelo...Grammer correction   "Goth & I"   -1 point
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: weasel4 on August 19, 2005, 09:30:31 AM
Oooop's  .... Just read rule #5.  :(
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Hawklore on August 19, 2005, 10:07:24 AM
Tech. Target is forced to allow reservists called to active duty to continue their health benefits..

Otherwise, they face certain death at the hands of US lawyers..
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: ASTAC on August 19, 2005, 12:34:10 PM
Target Sux anyway....the decor of their stores (RED and White) Is not pleasing to the eye.  

And their prices are no better and even sometimes higher than their competition.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: myelo on August 19, 2005, 01:49:53 PM
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Originally posted by weasel4
Myelo...Grammer correction   "Goth & I"   -1 point


Thanks.

Just curious --  how many points do you loose for misspelling grammar?
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Skuzzy on August 19, 2005, 02:38:06 PM
And here's yer sign.  LOL!  WTG myelo!

Weazzy, what is storch doing hanging around with Target greeters and why are you concerned about it?  I dare not speculate about this one. :)
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Fishu on August 19, 2005, 11:36:44 PM
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Originally posted by Hawklore
Target is forced to allow reservists called to active duty to continue their health benefits..


That sounds silly to me... :rolleyes:
Shouldn't government provide the health benefits for the time on duty?
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 20, 2005, 08:41:41 AM
the coverage can overlap
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: SOB on August 20, 2005, 09:14:04 AM
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Target Sux anyway....the decor of their stores (RED and White) Is not pleasing to the eye.  

And their prices are no better and even sometimes higher than their competition.

You just need to browse their clearance end caps now and then.  $12 for the best apartment kitchen appliance EVAR! (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005IBXJ/103-9145528-1001411?v=glance)
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Sandman on August 20, 2005, 11:49:36 AM
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Originally posted by ASTAC
Target Sux anyway....the decor of their stores (RED and White) Is not pleasing to the eye.  


Hmmm... Someone better tell the:

Arizona Cardinals
Cincinnati Reds
Detroit Red Wings
Kansas City Chiefs
University of Nebraska

etc... etc..
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Holden McGroin on August 20, 2005, 11:56:28 AM
Canada...
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Sandman on August 20, 2005, 12:11:48 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Canada...


Doh... I forgot Canada. :D

...and Switzerland.
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: WindX on August 20, 2005, 04:12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Come on WindX... don't let any facts get in the way.

Fuel the hate.


LOL   Sorry if I burst anyones bubble. LOL
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: Nilsen on August 20, 2005, 07:36:49 PM
target store nerds
Title: Issue with Target Stores?
Post by: DieAz on August 21, 2005, 11:14:26 AM
I have been in 4 different Target stores and still ain't seen any guns and ammo in any of them. ain't seen no paper targets either, yanno like that design they got hanging over the door at them stores.


nope, I'm not kidding.

for that reason alone is enough of a reason for me to go to walmart. they have guns, ammo, and targets.