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Title: anyone using 77.77 and playing AH?
Post by: Overlag on August 18, 2005, 06:04:21 PM: i updated to 77.77 a fwe weeks ago, and today i tried to play AH and it didnt work. I just wondering if thats the only reason?

i lock up like this:
(http://www.ajwebb.eclipse.co.uk/Pictures/Aces/Image162.jpg)
(http://www.ajwebb.eclipse.co.uk/Pictures/Aces/Image163.jpg)

both offline and online, no matter what map. I changed settings from 1024, to 512 and 256, no fix.....

also, as you may notice from the first picture, the clipboard backing spins around in circles like a prop on the main screen......
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Overlag on August 18, 2005, 06:53:09 PM: found the issue already....

A64's X2 driver adds /usepmtimer to the boot.ini, i had removed it before due to some issues, but i had re-tested it last week and everything was fine. However i hadnt tested AH since i had only 256mb ram due to a failure/RMA i was going through.

/usepmtimer is something to do with SMP rigs and cool and quiet i think and obviously AH doesnt like it! :confused:

now i gota get my aim back......not that i had aim anyway.....lol
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 19, 2005, 06:59:09 AM: is the file name "boot.ini" I have the same problem but could not find the file in either win2003 or xp64.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on August 19, 2005, 07:20:57 AM: Look in msconfig. There should be a tab for the boot.ini file. You can edit it there.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Overlag on August 19, 2005, 10:33:51 AM: Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
is the file name "boot.ini" I have the same problem but could not find the file in either win2003 or xp64.

its hidden by default, you have to turn on view system files. its in the root directory of your OS

ie C:\ or D:\ etc
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Skuzzy on August 19, 2005, 11:04:36 AM: Overlag, thank you very much for finding this bugger. I greatly appreciate it. It is fast becoming the number one problem in Aces High.

I am going to sticky this one.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Grits on August 19, 2005, 11:24:06 AM: I'm not clear, this is an nVidia, Windows, or AMD issue?

Since the last patch I've been having lockups. I have had the same hardware for nearly a year, nothing has changed, and before that AH was stable as a rock. Now, AH will hard lock and the areas of the screen where text goes (like the Info at the top) are solid blocks of whatever color the text was, sound and vox continues in a short loop, but everything else is stopped. I cant ALT-ESC, or even CNTL-ALT-DEL, its locked up solid.

P-4 3.0
Asus P4S800
1G PC3200
BFG 6800 OC 128M
Omega drivers (but have tried nVidia and it does it with them too)
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 19, 2005, 01:08:31 PM: looks like its just Nvidia and any AMD x2 processor from what I have heard.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Overlag on August 19, 2005, 02:04:40 PM: Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
looks like its just Nvidia and any AMD x2 processor from what I have heard.

i had wonderd that myself, i switched to a X2 with my ATI and it was fine, then i went to nvidia and it wasnt working, so i blamed Nvidia, however its the CPU setting in boot.ini that caused the issue....wierd!
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Overlag on August 19, 2005, 02:06:47 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Skuzzy
Overlag, thatnk you very much for finding this bugger. I greately appreciate it. It is fast becoming the number one problem in Aces High.

I am going to sticky this one.

i think the title needs changing slightly then, because i was blaming 77.77 drivers.

maybe "Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed?"

err something along those lines

Edit first post:

Basically if you dont install the A64 driver you dont get the problem, however Cool and quiet might not work....However not that many gamers will be using that.

If however you have already installed the A64 driver, find the boot.ini file on your C:\ drive (boot) and remove /usepmtimer.

Example:

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /usepmtimer

Change to:

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

[/color]
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 19, 2005, 02:34:12 PM: My boot.ini in xp64 looks like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=1
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional x64 Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

My boot.ini in win2003 looks like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows Server 2003, Enterprise" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut

Not seeing the switch you are talking about but have the same spinning clipboard problem.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Overlag on August 19, 2005, 05:04:05 PM: Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
My boot.ini in xp64 looks like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=1
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional x64 Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

My boot.ini in win2003 looks like this:

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows Server 2003, Enterprise" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut

Not seeing the switch you are talking about but have the same spinning clipboard problem.

but the game doesnt crash (hardlock) right? thats at least one problem solved
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 19, 2005, 05:40:02 PM: I'm seeing pretty much the same thing you are. The screen turns a shade darker and the clipboard spins. Often I can ctrl-alt-del out of it but sometimes the machines locks up entirely and I have to hardboot.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Overlag on August 19, 2005, 06:00:50 PM: Quote
Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
I'm seeing pretty much the same thing you are. The screen turns a shade darker and the clipboard spins. Often I can ctrl-alt-del out of it but sometimes the machines locks up entirely and I have to hardboot.

all the time???

I dont know about your problem, if you havnt ever had that /usepmtimer thingy...so it seems it isnt just down to this switch?

Whats your system again?

the thing that annoys me is if, whenever something happend like this with ATI, VPU recover would reboot the gfx card and i wouldnt need a reset... however if it goes wrong with nvidia you have to turn off! I mean sometimes just pressing the reset button doesnt work because it wont post after this sort of crash...wierd
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Overlag on August 19, 2005, 06:08:03 PM: i think we need to make a new post called "spinning clipboard, crash" and have everyone post system specs, driver versions into it, so we can see what the common link is....
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 19, 2005, 06:16:23 PM: I'm running the following:

AMD 4200x2
Asus a8n SLI Deluxe
6800GT 256 MB
Normally 1 Gig of 2-3-3 RAM but 512 while one stick is getting RMA'd

As far I know my my drivers are the latest.. I can post up my Dxdiag if it helps.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Overlag on August 19, 2005, 06:36:52 PM: thats stange almost same system, and you too had to RMA ram? i think i killed one of mine moving it from one system to this one, but im starting to wonder if its a fault on the A8n's? lol

what if you add that switch....?lol I know some people have had problems with, and then others have problems without it......

oh and does your OS show two CPU's?
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Kev367th on September 02, 2005, 09:43:19 PM: Using X2 4400 and 6800GT without the spinning clipboard problem.
Only difference I am using the nVidia Beta 80 drivers.
No sign of the switch in the boot.ini field, then again I don't use cool 'n' quiet. (turned off in BIOS).

Link for Beta 80's is on the omegadrivers site in the forums.

Edit - Direct link to Beta 80.40.s http://www.3dchipset.com/drivers/nvidia/beta/
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 04, 2005, 09:09:28 PM: I tried the 7.8.0.3 drivers which just came out and am having the same problem.

Kev, are you still running the above?

Basically it often locks up as the first slash screen comes up but sometimes makes into the game. When it makes it into the game it will lock up within 1 min or so with the screen turning a few shades darker and the clipboard spinning backwards like Overlags screenshot.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Kev367th on September 05, 2005, 02:29:57 AM: Yup still running the Beta 80's with no problems.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 05, 2005, 07:31:21 PM: Kev,

I followed your link and downloaded the win-x64-7750 driver set which I assume is what you are talking about. When I did it, I ended up with 800x600 4 bit max only. Am I missing something?
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Kev367th on September 05, 2005, 08:28:07 PM: Sounds like the drivers didn't install properly.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 06, 2005, 10:35:55 AM: I tried and retried cleaning the drivers and reinstalling. I get the same funky results with those drivers. All of the rest work fine. Guess I'm out of luck. Ironically, I upgraded my machine for AH and now it won't run at all.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: vaikku on September 07, 2005, 12:52:32 PM: I have exactly the same problem that rabbitdrabbit has.

Game usually locks up when the first splashscreen comes up.

AMD X2 4400
Shuttle SN25P Barebone
WinXp64
XFX 6800GT 256M with Beta 80 drivers

And I dont have usepmtimer parameter in boot.ini.

One reason to system update was poor AH performance with my old system with PCI based 5200fx, but now it wont work at all...

Any news on this issue?
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Delirium on September 08, 2005, 10:34:28 AM: I'd like to hear something as well... I'm within a few hours of buying a new system and this is pushing me towards a ATI vid card, even tho I'd rather go SLI.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 08, 2005, 11:32:44 AM: I'm not sure exactly what systems this kills but it seems to be x2 processors with 6800 vid cards. Strangely, it does not seem to effect any other game or app I have, just AH. Still no resolution process from HTC beyond this thread. It does it on all of the 7 drivers I tried on win 2003 and xp64.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: viator on September 08, 2005, 04:22:09 PM: You try to visit the site TOM'S HARDWARE .- There are critiques
of the last technologies computers understood tests.- You will also have an orientation of what combining are more conveninient for the game type AH.- The components of a computers must the assembled so that not to create necks of bottle and conflicts.- mTherefore read well you tests and compatibility,adaptability.- Remembered you that a computer after six months it is old.-
Ciao to all Viator
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Kev367th on September 08, 2005, 07:07:54 PM: Looks like an XP64 problem, although I ran earlier versions of AH2 on XP64 Betas without a prob.
So may be something that has been changed in AH2.

Works great on Win 2000.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 08, 2005, 08:28:08 PM: I have the exact same problem in win 2003 too kev..
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: viator on September 09, 2005, 04:27:09 PM: We give a speech in parallel to understand us and to show that sometimes the run to the las discoveries doesn't pay.- If I have a hydralic pomp of 2000 liters/s and a of 500 in exit I put under effort the pomp,she heats and in little time she is damaged.-
This to show that with programs to 32 bit fed with a system 64 bit
he doesn't work well because the system he had to adapt.-
You have to have a hybrid system and as all system hybrid it is a compromise therefore the few steadiness to elaborate in comparison to the drivers.- The decision to be taken is commensurate with the majority of the programs in commerce.-
(if they are written to 32 or 64 bit).- Today games written to 64 bit are nearly not existent while programs of writing the are (see Office).- I ignore if AH as been adjourned to 64 bitbut reading the matthers seems me unerstand that is negative.-
Keep in mind that AH is not (graphically speaking)a game that asks few resource,in fact, asks many power.-
Shortly:or be milk or be wine;milk and wine mixed it hurts to the stomach;) :)
Ciao to all from Viator
Title: AMD64 X2 Lockup problem
Post by: vaikku on September 10, 2005, 09:11:51 AM: Finally found a solution, even annoying one, to this AMD64 X2 lockup problem I was having.

You have to run WinXP64 in sinle processor mode.

To do so you have to add /onecpu parameter in boot.ini:
run notepad c:\boot.ini

copy & paste the last line and add /onecpu parameter to the new line.

For example here is my boot.ini after modification.
Quote

[boot loader]
timeout=5
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional x64 Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional x64 Edition ONECPU" /onecpu /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

Now I have to restart windows in onecpu mode to play AH, but at least I can play it now...
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 16, 2005, 09:54:57 AM: Shutting down one CPU has worked for me. I seem to now have no issues running AH2. Skuzzy, there is something weird with how you guys handle this with the coad.

Do I get my 2 months of lost play time credited?
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Karnak on October 02, 2005, 11:31:30 PM: I had this problem on my system initially as well. Removing the "/usepmtimer" entry from the boot.ini fixed it for me.

Athlon64 4400 X2
WindowsXP Pro SP2
GeForce 6800GT 78.01 drivers

I am running with both processors just fine online now. Offline it seems like AH runs too fast.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Heretik on October 08, 2005, 03:47:53 PM: Same problem here. Didn't have the /usepmtimer entry. Shutting off one core fixed the AH issue, but it feels like robbing Peter to pay Paul.

AMD64 X2 3800
(2x) Nvidia 7800GT
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Heretik on October 12, 2005, 02:23:18 PM: Update: there is a windows hotfix available that fixed the problem for me, without resorting to booting up in single cpu mode.

Link in this (http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=961914) thread on [H]ard|Forum
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Skuzzy on October 12, 2005, 02:27:14 PM: Just FYI, we have no control over the number of CPU's being used by the operating system, nor do we have control over drivers which are not thread safe.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Kev367th on October 22, 2005, 10:39:11 PM: Try the new nVidia 81's on their website.
Even fixed a few graphics glitches also :)
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: SEpiper on November 05, 2005, 05:14:06 PM: i tried the 81. whatever the newest ones still get the lock up. just turned off cool and quiet in the bios will see if it fixes it.

msi k8n neo4 plat sli
amd 3800+x2 cpu
nvidia 6800 gt 256mb PCIe
1 gb matched kit dual channel corsiar ram
SATA II 120gb westen digital hd
sound blaster Audigy 2
xp pro sp2
saitek x45
ch pro rudder pedals
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: SEpiper on November 06, 2005, 06:24:40 PM: well disabling cool and quiet in the bios didn't help any. back to the old machine for ah2 till this is fixed i guess.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Heretik on November 07, 2005, 02:37:17 PM: Running in w98/ME compatibility mode seems to clear up the problem too.
Title: Re: AMD64 X2 Lockup problem
Post by: Overlag on November 16, 2005, 07:39:10 AM: Quote
Originally posted by vaikku
Finally found a solution, even annoying one, to this AMD64 X2 lockup problem I was having.

You have to run WinXP64 in sinle processor mode.

To do so you have to add /onecpu parameter in boot.ini:
run notepad c:\boot.ini

copy & paste the last line and add /onecpu parameter to the new line.

For example here is my boot.ini after modification.

Now I have to restart windows in onecpu mode to play AH, but at least I can play it now...

try runfirst mentioned in my other thread.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=164434&goto=newpost
Title: 77.77
Post by: numb on December 05, 2005, 01:15:50 PM: those 77.77 drivers are crap when i had them and i tried 2 play i would get a blue screen update 2 the newest ones
Title: Re: 77.77
Post by: SkyChimp on December 05, 2005, 01:23:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by numb
those 77.77 drivers are crap when i had them and i tried 2 play i would get a blue screen update 2 the newest ones

:lol Teh blue deth.

Overlag i was having this problem with my ati card... Every once in a while it happens
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Kev367th on December 14, 2005, 08:31:55 PM: Came across this while researching a game I was looking at buying.

Seems to be an almost exclusively Win XP/XP64 problem. (so whatever they changed in the 'task/thread manager' from 2000 to XP is the problem)

Two more workarounds -
1) Use XP's ability to 'emulate' an earlier OS. Set the game to run as a Win98 game (still maintains dual cores operating).

2) Start the game, ALT - TAB out
press CTRL+ALT+DEL to get the task manager
select the 'Processes' tab
find the game process and right click it
select "Set Affinity"
uncheck one of the cores (this forces the game to run single core only),seems best is to uncheck the 1st one, i.e. CPU 0.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: ZENMS on January 29, 2006, 03:40:03 PM: I think it is crap that HiTech hasnt fixed this problem. I dont have this with Bf2, ET, Q4 or any other game I play. I had decided to fly AH again as I have a little more time for gaming and encounters this problem.

I get the splash, spinning clipboard, then everything darkens a bit and it locks up. After uninstalling the game, rebooting and reinstalling, I left out all the extra skins. I now get into the game, and to the hangar. The clipboard doesnt spin, but the aircraft page never makes it to the top. Instead it is off to the left, and when I select a runway I am in the plane and spinning all around until i crash and go back to the tower.

HiTech can blame AMD, Nvidia, or Microsoft, but it just shows how they are not keeping up with NEW HARDWARE or updates to the most popular operating system. Why should someone buy a dual core processor only to have to turn one of them off? That doesnt make sense.

I know I will get flamed for this post, but I am not picking on HiTech, I am simply pointing out the facts. They arent keeping up with hardware, all the other games are, so where is the problem?
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: vaikku on January 30, 2006, 12:06:37 AM: I agree with you Zenms. AH is the only game I am having problems with. If the problem is in Nvidia drivers not being thread safe I wonder why other games do work (and they do use both CPU cores).
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Hyflyer81 on February 07, 2006, 10:18:54 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Kev367th
Came across this while researching a game I was looking at buying.

Seems to be an almost exclusively Win XP/XP64 problem. (so whatever they changed in the 'task/thread manager' from 2000 to XP is the problem)

Two more workarounds -
1) Use XP's ability to 'emulate' an earlier OS. Set the game to run as a Win98 game (still maintains dual cores operating).

2) Start the game, ALT - TAB out
press CTRL+ALT+DEL to get the task manager
select the 'Processes' tab
find the game process and right click it
select "Set Affinity"
uncheck one of the cores (this forces the game to run single core only),seems best is to uncheck the 1st one, i.e. CPU 0.

How do you set up XP to emulate win98 to play Aces high?
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Cobra7 on February 09, 2006, 10:44:41 AM: Hyflyer81...your'e correct! I found the same solution yesterday. Guess I was a day behind you.

Anyway, make sure you are completely in the game...that is, in the tower before you switch cores. Otherwise it's still screwed.

And yes, uncheck proc 0. Seems best that way.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Hyflyer81 on February 09, 2006, 11:12:42 AM: It works for me too you have to be in the game before you do it! My computer doesnt like me alt tabbing in and out once and awhile it wont do that correctly
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Kev367th on February 20, 2006, 04:32:53 PM: More possible XP fixes -

1) Create a shortcut to Aces High.
Right click it and select properites
Set to run as Win98/Me

2)http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=983781&page=1&pp=20

3) Latest beta nVidia drivers 82.65 upward are supposed to have fixed driver issues, get them at http://www.guru3d.com

4) http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=909944

Definately been tied down to a change in the Windows XP/SP2 timer/thread manager that is causing problems when applications are being migrated across cores by Windows.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Wolfala on March 23, 2006, 12:35:40 PM: Do these problems extend to the X2 processors as well?
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Wolfala on March 28, 2006, 05:02:01 AM: New System Config:

AMD X2 4400
ABIT AN8 32X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 ATX AMD Motherboard
OCZ 2 GIG 184 pin DDR 400 PC3200
2x PNY Vertro Nvidia 7900 GTX SLI
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drives

Tried to get in game without any modification - crashed when logging in. Used Win98 compatability mode - worked.

Wolf
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Heretik on March 28, 2006, 06:21:12 AM: This particular problem is exclusive to the X2s. The problems only get worse from here. :D
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Wolfala on March 28, 2006, 06:22:47 PM: I was able to fly and die without much fuss - just switching one of the cores off and that did the trick.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Wolfala on April 01, 2006, 07:56:49 PM: Ran a test - when you reset the bios - it does something within windows that sets the power management back to minimal power management.

The result is - ****ty gameplay.

See the netstat.

(http://[IMG]http://www.furballunderground.com/gallery2/data/media/21/netstat2.jpg) [/IMG]

Now with the power mgmt set to anything other then minimal power management....

(http://www.furballunderground.com/gallery2/data/media/21/netstat_w_the_power_mgmt_changed.jpg)

Back to slick and smooth.
Title: Re: 77.77
Post by: scottydawg on May 05, 2006, 12:05:38 PM: Quote
Originally posted by numb
those 77.77 drivers are crap when i had them and i tried 2 play i would get a blue screen update 2 the newest ones

I have tried most of the drivers from NVidia and the only ones I have found that are reliable are 82.xx (12 I think).

Also I had a big problem with an add-on sound card when I had not disabled the onboard sound in Device Manager (or in the BIOS) that would cause AH2 to completely lock up before getting to the title screen.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: kanati on June 14, 2006, 12:03:51 AM: Just signed up and had this problem...

AMD64 X2 4800+
A8N32 SLI mobo
Dual 7800GTX in SLI config
2 gig ram

The timer flag was the fix.
Title: Video Driver URL
Post by: fjaloma on May 31, 2007, 08:31:15 PM: Guys,

I have a buddy that has video problems. I told him that the AH gurus on the Forums know where to check/get the latest drivers. I know there's a site many of you use and I've see it referenced in other postings. The issue is I can't seem to find it to send to my buddy.

What is the name of the site that provides drivers for a wide range of video cards? I'm not sure what video card he's using, but any site that provides video driver updates would be helpful.

I'll send him the URL.

Thanks Guys
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: dedalos on June 08, 2007, 11:20:31 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Kev367th
Looks like an XP64 problem, although I ran earlier versions of AH2 on XP64 Betas without a prob.
So may be something that has been changed in AH2.

Works great on Win 2000.

Same prob with Vista. Comon thread is the CPU and vid card
Title: Need help
Post by: Wail on August 03, 2007, 07:59:09 AM: Hey Guys,
I have read this thread, and I am having kinda same probs.
I just got this new system.

AMD64 X2 4800+
A8N32 SLI mobo
2 7900 GT
2 gigs Ram

When I start AH the back of the clipboard spins around, and is somewhat shaded.
I am using the 162.18 forceware driver.
Not sure where & what to remove, as far as the (boot) inf, or cool & quiet files etc.
Can someone kinda walk me thru, some things to try?
Thanks in Advance
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Krusty on August 03, 2007, 08:38:47 AM: Wail, if ya read this very thread there's a fast and easy solution (heck it's even on this page of the thread!)

Right click the AH shortcut icon, go to properties, and set it to run in Win98 compatibility mode. Then try it.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Skuzzy on August 03, 2007, 10:00:47 AM: Vista has the same problem as XP does, but AMD has not issued a patch for Vista. They have one for XP and it does fix the issue.

For Vista, you just have to run the game in Windows 98 compatibility mode which forces the game to run on one CPU.

This problem also exists on all laptop versions of dual-core CPU's from AMD and Intel.

There is nothing we can do to fix this short of dropping threading support.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Wail on August 03, 2007, 06:57:49 PM: Outstanding, It was as easy as that.
Thanks Krusty, Skuzzy.
I just had time to skim the thread this morning before work, & post the help ??
So sorry bout that Krusty, but Thanks a bunch Fellas
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Krusty on August 03, 2007, 07:30:14 PM: anytime :aok
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: 68ROX on November 04, 2007, 03:35:53 PM: What is the fix for the spinning map AND the locking up in mid-flight to FR of ZERO Crash/System Freeze?

All the links to other "fixes" say "forums have moved".

YIKES!

PSE Help!

I can barely play AH with a new PC!!!

See other thread "AAAAAHHHHH Help!" Please!

Thanks!

68ROX
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Wail on November 08, 2007, 05:07:21 AM: 68ROX, Heres the link for the patch fix.
Its the 2nd one down on the page.

AMD Dual-Core Optimizer

worked for me, good luck.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Getback on December 29, 2007, 06:55:28 PM: You're saying that if I remove the tempPerfEnable file out of bootini my troubles would have been over? Wow, I've had many many problems with screen freezes. I've done everything that Skuzzy posted 10 times except remove that part of the bootini. Now I have installed windows 2000 because it seemed a last resort.
Title: Problems using Nvidia with A64 CPU driver installed
Post by: Serpent7 on January 03, 2008, 09:32:51 AM: AMD Athlon X2 6000 socket AM2
4 GB Corsair DDR2 800
SATAII 300 HD
XfX Nvidia 7950 GX2 520
Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe
Vista 32 ultimate
Saitek X52
SoundBlaster Xfi Platinum
Samsung 22" LCD
Logitech wireless KB and mouse

Have to install the AMD Dual Core Optimizer (http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/utilities/Setup.exe) and latest drivers all around.

No problems whatsoever!

great frames
Title: Re: anyone using 77.77 and playing AH?
Post by: Guara on March 06, 2008, 01:20:20 PM: Hi to all
Im Having the same problem with the cilp board i have recently received a new dell D620 centrino duo vid card is the infamous intel,
i can play not laike rabbit that locks up but is anoyng to see the clip board darken and moving like a prop in running xp pro 32
2 gig ram
thkx
Guara
Title: Re: anyone using 77.77 and playing AH?
Post by: Guara on March 06, 2008, 01:33:15 PM: Hi guys
Looks like running in win98/me solve the problems i will be tetsting it later
Thanks :rofl
Title: Re: anyone using 77.77 and playing AH?
Post by: bazzat on October 12, 2008, 05:11:48 AM: I've had spinning clip board and solved it by right click on AH desktop shortcut , click "properties" then "compatibility" tick box and change compatibility to "windows98/ME.

Baz
Title: Re: anyone using 77.77 and playing AH?
Post by: moot on January 14, 2009, 09:57:09 AM: AMD X2 cpu and nvidia motherboard, Geforce9800 gfx card, had to run the AMD dual core optimizer to fix spinning clipboard. Added another 9800 card for SLI, spinning clipboard bug is back. I do have the /usepmtimer flag, but changed AH to run in 98 compatibility mode instead.. problem solved.