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Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: elc7367b on August 20, 2005, 12:38:44 PM

I learned today that my wife's great uncle, Capt. Lowell K. Breuland was awarded 10.5 kills in a p51d over Europe.  I am away from home this weekend so dont know if anyone has possibly skinned his plane.  It was called the "grim reaper".  If it has not been skinned, could one of you apply your extraordinary talents and possibly work it up for submission?  Pictures of his plane are available on various websites.  In fact there is an actual flying p51 in california modeled after his plane.  Thanks to anyone who takes it up.

Muttman
Sick Puppies

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: thebest1 on August 20, 2005, 01:04:13 PM

Ill do it far ya mutt, anything for a squady.  Ill ty to find some pics or if anyone has any

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: thebest1 on August 20, 2005, 01:09:28 PM

is this it
http://www.tonyandrews.capitalhosts.com/shows/oshkosh/images/o2kp/p51_grimreaper2.jpg
??

what squad was it?

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: elc7367b on August 20, 2005, 06:26:32 PM

That would be the one. Thanks Best

Muttman

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: Rino on August 21, 2005, 10:16:20 AM

ooooh, purdy :)

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: thebest1 on August 21, 2005, 08:36:55 PM

heres my work so far mutt, tell me if ya see anything wronge

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Thebest1189/ahss77copy.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Thebest1189/ahss78copy.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Thebest1189/ahss79copy.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Thebest1189/ahss80copy.jpg)

:aok

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: SkyChimp on August 21, 2005, 09:05:59 PM

Chippin needs work:aok

Look at greebo's skins and waffles 51.

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: United on August 21, 2005, 09:36:41 PM

Looks a little too dark, IMO.

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: thebest1 on August 21, 2005, 09:45:16 PM

dammit everything i make is dark AHHHH IM JUST GUNNA MAKE THE WHOLE THING WHITE AND ITLL STILL BE TOO DARK!! lol
nah im just runnin my mouth, thats what comments are for, my computer says my color is all fine, i must need a new moniter, this one like like 6 years old!!!  LOL!

chimp its um metal and metal usually doesnt chip, unless you mean the paint

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: SkyChimp on August 21, 2005, 10:07:30 PM

Quote

Originally posted by thebest1
dammit everything i make is dark AHHHH IM JUST GUNNA MAKE THE WHOLE THING WHITE AND ITLL STILL BE TOO DARK!! lol
nah im just runnin my mouth, thats what comments are for, my computer says my color is all fine, i must need a new moniter, this one like like 6 years old!!!  LOL!

chimp its um metal and metal usually doesnt chip, unless you mean the paint

lol! checkers.. And anti glare..

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: thebest1 on August 21, 2005, 10:10:01 PM

ok lol






hahah.... chimpers

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: SkyChimp on August 21, 2005, 10:11:04 PM

not to dark..

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: thebest1 on August 21, 2005, 10:23:27 PM

YAY!

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: GuyNoir on August 22, 2005, 11:04:31 AM

Looks like the colors and blacks might be too de-saturated or too transparent.  The tones in the real picture are a lot more intense.


(http://www.tonyandrews.capitalhosts.com/shows/oshkosh/images/o2kp/p51_grimreaper2.jpg)

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: SELECTOR on August 22, 2005, 03:10:06 PM

the plane in the pic is a complete farce when it comes to real ww2 planes.. a shiney p51 wouldnt last 2 mins in the british weather never mind over enemy teritory..

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: GuyNoir on August 22, 2005, 04:42:06 PM

Sorry for not being clear, but I was just talking about the purple circle on the tail, the blue of the nose, and the black of the stripes.  Really, you could look at any plane pics to see what I'm talking about:  most of the colors are really intense in real life.  thebest1's plane looks great, but I think that it doesn't have enough contrast to it.

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: elc7367b on August 22, 2005, 05:20:05 PM

Excellent job there best!  Only thing I see missing are the kill markings under the canopy.  I dont know if that is possible.  He had 12.5 kill in wwII. (picked up another 2 in korea).  Thanks for your efforts.  

Muttman

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: thebest1 on August 22, 2005, 05:29:42 PM

yeah im still making those, its possible.

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: SELECTOR on August 22, 2005, 05:42:22 PM

I COMPLETLY DIS-AGREE ABOUT THE COLOUR INTESNSITY(OOPS CAPS)a plane allocated to a front line fighter base (especially in uk) would be dull, well worn and covered in cheese. all the planes you see at airshows have  been cleaned and polished to perfection...
make 'em look like war planes , not pimp mobiles

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: SkyChimp on August 22, 2005, 05:56:40 PM

Quote

Originally posted by SELECTOR
I COMPLETLY DIS-AGREE ABOUT THE COLOUR INTESNSITY(OOPS CAPS)a plane allocated to a front line fighter base (especially in uk) would be dull, well worn and covered in cheese. all the planes you see at airshows have  been cleaned and polished to perfection...
make 'em look like war planes , not pimp mobiles

Good point selector :)

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: GuyNoir on August 22, 2005, 06:34:45 PM

Ok, let me try this saturation thing again:

(http://img381.exs.cx/img381/114/361stfgp51sized4tb.jpg)

(http://img381.exs.cx/img381/1587/p47beingrearmedandrefuelled5br.jpg)

(http://img400.exs.cx/img400/7586/fredpoatsp51clargesized6ov.jpg)





I dunno what else to say other than that they are pretty darn saturated...

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: Rino on August 22, 2005, 10:58:30 PM

Quote

Originally posted by SELECTOR
I COMPLETLY DIS-AGREE ABOUT THE COLOUR INTESNSITY(OOPS CAPS)a plane allocated to a front line fighter base (especially in uk) would be dull, well worn and covered in cheese. all the planes you see at airshows have  been cleaned and polished to perfection...
make 'em look like war planes , not pimp mobiles

     All paintjobs start out new, it's not like there's an insta-fade
machine out there.  Admittedly I didn't serve in wartime, but we
repainted our Phantoms on a regular basis.

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: thebest1 on August 23, 2005, 10:58:08 AM

Update:
-Fixed up the stripes
-Fixed up the weathering
-Created better scratches on the antiglare patch
-Lined up the colors more
-And some other stuff i cant remember

Well here you go:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Thebest1189/ahss82copy.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Thebest1189/ahss81copy.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Thebest1189/ahss83copy.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Thebest1189/ahss84copy.jpg)


:aok

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: Dux on August 23, 2005, 11:21:34 AM

Best, does your technique involve cutting back on the opacity of the white parts so that the panel and rivet detail show through?

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: thebest1 on August 23, 2005, 11:30:39 AM

no the rivits and panals lines are over the white stripes...... why you ask?

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: Dux on August 23, 2005, 12:09:01 PM

Only because the white looks very grey. Which is fine. If you were doing it that way, I was going to offer a better way.

Skin looks great, btw.

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: TDeacon on August 23, 2005, 12:20:24 PM

Guynoir,

With respect to skin color saturations, intensities, and contrasts, it is more important that they look good relative to the AH terrain, than relative to an image from a book.  Perceived accuracy of color is very context-dependent, and varies with ambient lighting, distance from object, etc.  

(No experience with skins, but 45 years experience with scale models).

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: thebest1 on August 23, 2005, 03:05:47 PM

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Thebest1189/ahss85copy.jpg)

;)

Title: To all the great skinners
Post by: OOZ662 on August 23, 2005, 03:14:43 PM

Quote

Originally posted by GuyNoir
(http://img400.exs.cx/img400/7586/fredpoatsp51clargesized6ov.jpg)

Check me out ma, I'm suckin' a marker! :D

I feel bad for whoever sat there and polished that thing. Some dweeb will always come by and spill coffee on it.