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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Yeager on August 23, 2005, 01:19:05 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/robertson.chavez/index.html
I dont know whether to agree with old Pat or not. Ive always seen chavez as a noriaga type goon. Why not just waste the dork? I know it looks bad. Makes the US seem like the bad guy but at what point do we allow world perception to overtake our needs for a secure source of hemispherical energy. Hemispherical...is that even a word lol
thoughts? Im especially interested in the canadian view!
Love,
Yeager
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You want a Canadian's point of view?
Lookit.... I almost puked today at work when I read that.
It was only tempered by... well... I had other stuff to worry about.
When this guy aint asking for people to be killed, he is busy asking for people to be killed.
He, and you, outrage me.
But... at least you have the balls to bring it up.
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outrage?
Outrage is not havin milk to go with your cherrios!
Outrage is a vibrator that has dead batteries!
Outrage is a squirrel getting run over by a UPS van.
Your priorities need fixen nash :D
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Well yeah, outrage is a useless emotion.
I know that.
But still..... I can't shake it.
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hell man, dont let robertson get under your skin. He is a tool.
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He's not just some tool.
He's your tool.
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Hmmm......any other canadians out there?
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Robertson is one of those folks that you hate to be trapped in a room where he is on the tube.
It`s ...drone drone drone drone..yadda yadda...hum drum...drone drone drone...ho hum yadda drone............
And that`s just to tell you it`s a nice day.
He is completely laughable as a politician and a regular dull circus act at even the thought of a candidate, BUT....he is on the right track in this instance.
Cut off the snakes head instead of the tail.
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What...?
Any other Canadians out there that want to give 'ol Pat a pat on the back? Is that what you're asking for?
What do you want Yeager?
The man is a scum sucking dirtbag peice of trash.
What exactly are you looking for here?
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And I repeat:
He's not just some tool.
He's your tool.
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Pat Robertson is another fanatic that gives religion a bad name.
Condoning the murder of another human being.....
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Fishing good today Yeager?
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Bah, assassination for any religious type would be a huge favour - it lets them finally to go to meet thier maker.
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Yeager can only catch those fish that have long since been shoulda been done clonked on the head
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Need smaller Minnows.....
:D
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Pat Robertson is another fanatic that gives religion a bad name.
Agreed. I'm actually surprised by his statement, but I'm not sure why.
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this is interesting... nash feels that ol pat is "ours" but feels all political decisions and everything the U.S. does is his bussiness.
lazs
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Ya know... this is the same guy that was praying on television for the death of a Supreme Court Justice.
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Ya know... this is the same guy that was praying on television for the death of a Supreme Court Justice.
Didn't he also imply that 9/11 was the act of a vengeful god, or am I confusing my zealots?
Charon
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He agreed with Falwell that the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were caused by "pagans, abortionists, feminists, gays, lesbians, and the ACLU."
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LOL. Fallwell/Robertson 2008:aok .
Need somebody to run against Clinton/Fonda on the Democratic side.
Charon
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Robertson is a loon! This is the guy who actually believed he prayed a hurricane away from the Virginia coast.
I don't really have a problem with assasinating some foreign figure who is a threat to this nation. Problem is it's not something that should be talked about in public.
The real problem is that we can't seem to keep even the most simple secrets, SECRET! How would we keep the fact that we offluffied some foreign leader out of the NY Times.
Assasinations work well in theory but usually don't in reality. Far to often you end up with someone far worse than the guy you killed.
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Robertson should be assasinated...His influance over Viginia Beach has made this place no fun to live.
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I have enjoyed reading peoples response to the CNN story on Robertson.
Thats what I wanted. Enjoyment, entertainment at reading other peoples thoughts. Most folks can write with the entertainment value in mind. I like that.
Besides, this board has been a very boring place lately and getting nash going is always worthwhile. nash and some others can be very entertaining reads.
Should start a thread on the Chavez dude. Whats this guy up to?
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explain the difference between 'our' religious whackjobs calling for assassinations and 'their' religious whackjobs calling for assassinations.
religious whackjobs calling for assassinations should be assassinated. yes?
'reap what you sow'
;)
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Originally posted by Yeager
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/robertson.chavez/index.html
I dont know whether to agree with old Pat or not. Ive always seen chavez as a noriaga type goon. Why not just waste the dork? I know it looks bad. Makes the US seem like the bad guy but at what point do we allow world perception to overtake our needs for a secure source of hemispherical energy. Hemispherical...is that even a word lol
thoughts? Im especially interested in the canadian view!
Love,
Yeager
What makes you thinking Killing Chavez will secure our oil? If anything an obvious assasination would close their oil off to us.
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Originally posted by Raider179
What makes you thinking Killing Chavez will secure our oil? If anything an obvious assasination would close their oil off to us.
So you are a true believer in propaganda?
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think its bad now? wait till the oil supplys start to dwindle. It will be like fish in a leaking bowl. The lower the water level gets the crazier the fish get.
I give humanity 50 years tops. Your kids will live it.
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Originally posted by Charon
Didn't he also imply that 9/11 was the act of a vengeful god, or am I confusing my zealots?
Charon
An understandable error when one has such a variety to choose from...
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Originally posted by Jackal1
So you are a true believer in propaganda?
so you are a true believer in obscure remarks?
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Dang this freedom of speech thing gets so many people in trouble..regular guys and religous wackos too....
And then there's the freedom of the press...
When I am old enough I am running for Dictator err..President...I'll do away with that pesky Constitution..(not being sarcastic here)
I'd be a benevolent Dictator..MOST of your freedoms will remain but freedom of speech will only apply to the spoken word...and the Media will be state controlled.:D
I stick with my original staement though:
Robertson should be assasinatated...in fact most of those guys should.
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Well, it looks like Robertson wanted exposure and he got it... and it is further facilitated by this board. Unfortunately, he has the ability to make the US look bad...
Heck, the only people which take him seriously politically are those that drive pintos with flames painted on the sides.
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Did you hear that Ayatollah Pat Robertson ammended his statement?
He now wants to include Janet Jacksons nipple for assassination.
This guy makes Cindy look rational.
Where is the rightwing outrage? I mean the same outrage and hate that the rightwing press has been laying on the Sheehan woman.
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the guy's a religious right whacko. Use outrage on the religious whacko's and you get a wall of text for a reply, complete with footnotes and a 3 part thelogical thesis.. and that's just here on the BBS. On CNN you'd have 13 talking heads and politicans careers going down in flames.
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Originally posted by Yeager
thoughts? Im especially interested in the canadian view!
Love,
Yeager
Change Robertson's reference book, wrap a towel around his head and he's what you're fighting right now. Religous whackos are religious whackos are religous whackos...
As for his being "yours". Well he is an American and you have my sincerest condolences on that.
I seem to recall it being something of a crime in the US to conspire to commit murder, even the murder of a foreign national in a foreign land provided the conspiring was done on US soil. If the evil deed gets done and the US justice system has the ability and the jewels to lay the charge it would make an entertaining televised trial :aok
asw
(love ya too Yeager:D )
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Expressing an opinion that an illegal act should occur is not conspiracy. Actual planning must occur.
Robertson is an ass.
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Thx for the info on the law - there goes my television plans for next spring.
100% in agreement with you on Robertson.
Cheers,
asw
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Originally posted by Yeager
Should start a thread on the Chavez dude. Whats this guy up to?
He's a good old fashioned South American Communist, wants to be this century's Castro. Single handedly destroyed what was left of Venezuala's economy and activily supports the FARC and other Communist guerilla/terrorists in Columbia and other parts of South America by letting them use safe havens in Venezuala.
ack-ack
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Sounds like the guy might have WMDs ;)
Thanks ASW, its nice getting a second Canadian opinion
:cool:
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Robertson's statement is embarrassing and unsupportable. If he doesnt recant either this position or his positions on sanctity of life, he's being an illogical hypocrite.
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Originally posted by detch01
.....snip.....
As for his being "yours". Well he is an American and you have my sincerest condolences on that.
....snip......
Thanks for at least that much, detch -- and you saved me from having to bring up Celine Dion....
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Originally posted by detch01
As for his being "yours". Well he is an American and you have my sincerest condolences on that.
By "your tool", I was speaking of the right wing, and their eagerness to hop into bed with folks like this and let them dismantle everything the Republicans were supposed to be about - and waking up to a nightmare of their own bloody making.
Not "your's" as in the collective American's.
Alot of you guys happen to be decent people and you make excellent porn. :)
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Originally posted by Nash
By "your tool", I was speaking of the right wing
Broad strokes = bad
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Broad strokes?
Really?
I don't think so, man.
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I assume there are some sensible realists in the left-wing, even though I don't know any personally. If I said otherwise or called Al Sharpton "their tool", it would be a pretty broad stroke.
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i remember when michael j. fox was in a sitcom and played the lone republican in a family of loonie lefties.
dunno where that came from, just thought i'd share a time when republicans were funny and harmless.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
i remember when michael j. fox was in a sitcom and played the lone republican in a family of loonie lefties.
HAHA! Family Ties. Did you see the episode when the parents decided to get back to their activist roots because they found an old issue of the Scavenger? They wouldn't let the kids eat English Muffins because of the occupation of Northern Ireland. :lol
Who could have predicted that years later Freedom Fries would be on the menu of your local patriotic cafeteria? ;)
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Originally posted by VOR
I assume there are some sensible realists in the left-wing, even though I don't know any personally. If I said otherwise or called Al Sharpton "their tool", it would be a pretty broad stroke.
Do a Google search on "2004 election christians."
4,160,000 returns, with "Evangelicals Say They Led Charge For the GOP" as the number one entry.
Nobody could possibly forget the pundits trying to make sense out of the election result, and landing firmly on Rove's use of the religious base, could they?
What about 'Justice Sunday (1, 2, 3... what's it up to now anyways?') where every dirtbag politician now has to potato themselves out to these wingnuts lest they get put in the dog house like Frist.
This aint a broad stroke, VOR, this is a pointed hammer arcing down and smacking you square in the forehead.
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Yes Nash, I'm sure W was elected because evangelicals prayed for it. Maybe even 4,160,000 of them who subsequently made their own hallelujah victory web page.
Maybe not.
There's nothing new about politicians pandering votes from their target audiences. That's politics. The caveat here is to not take things at face value. (Except for Robertson, whom you probably can safely take at face value.)
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Oh, "it's just politics."
La la la la... trallady da, sings you, whilst asking us to forgive your horrible pitch due to the fact that you are singing it whilst covering your ears.
Just politics? Hello? Of course it is! Is that a rebuttle to a political argument - that it is in fact politics - or an exit plan as botched as just about every damned thing this administration has ever touched?
It's just politics... That's supposed to be a newsflash?
"The caveat here is to not take things at face value."
Is that right? Because you haven't given anyone here one single iota of evidence to why that even applies here.
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See Rule #4
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Originally posted by VOR Who could have predicted that years later Freedom Fries would be on the menu of your local patriotic cafeteria? ;)
That gave pettyness a whole new meaning. :rofl
Pat isn't just a moron he's a religious moron. He's also an hypocrite. He's for making laws based on his religious beliefs but oppose those based on other religions. If its good for you then it's also good for them, sorry Pat.
A big dumb dinosaur that should have died 65 million years ago.
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Uh, I thought that since I was talking to Yeager, that when I said "your" it would be taken as "Yeager's."
Sorry if that was so ambiguous for some.
I can do the Moonwalk, but I sure as hell can't dance.
And I don't stick by everything I've ever said. Been known to change my mind. That's not happening here.
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Nash, even atheists (like me) vote republican.
Anyway, carve another notch in your gunbelt...I'll concede the argument. I'm smart enough to know when I've been outmaneuvered in an internet game of wits.
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Yes!
I'd ask you how you feel about the hyjacking of your party, but.... That'd just be politics.
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Wether it's been hijacked or not is an issue I don't have the energy to get into, but hypothetically even if it had, it's temporary like everything else.
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Alrighty.
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Originally posted by Simaril
Thanks for at least that much, detch -- and you saved me from having to bring up Celine Dion....
LOL - she's yours. We gave her to you :D
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Originally posted by Nash
By "your tool", I was speaking of the right wing, and their eagerness to hop into bed with folks like this and let them dismantle everything the Republicans were supposed to be about - and waking up to a nightmare of their own bloody making.
Not "your's" as in the collective American's.
Alot of you guys happen to be decent people and you make excellent porn. :)
C'mon Nash. Do we really have to compare party tools here? You guys got your fair share. The left is riddled with them so bad they can't pick a king tool except for Dean....and still can't get there tool filled message out.
Ok ok enough about the Left, Robertson is a righty. Yes he's a tool. Sometimes we aren't proud of our tools but, sometimes you have to keep your tools on the wall in the shed ready for use if you ever need it. I allways like to say the right tool for the right job.
;)
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Ah, those crazy Christian fundamentalists...
Wacky, those guys.
But, it turns out, most helpful when it comes to winning an election.
Guess what? You signed a deal with the devil.
And the Devil? He aint some punk like T. Soprano, chucking your useless self off of a boat with cement boots or bouncing your head off of a kitchen floor. It's cruel, but at least it's personal.
No... This guy, the devil, he is way different.
Like the cop who uses the arrested punk to get at the next higher up, who then snitches on the next higher up, to get at the next higher up.... Well, the next thing ya know the whole entire thing goes down in flames.
In this case, we aint talking about a drug ring. We're talking about a great country.
Lets not even pretend that these guys didn't know what they were doing. If you think Bush and Rove are all "Praise be to Jesus" then I am telling you - real estate folks and swamp owners nation-wide want your phone number.
They invited them in, used em up, and are horrified now because they never even considered the possibility that THEY AREN'T GOING AWAY.
Man, this is Shakespearean comedy if you tilt your head at the right angle.
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Do you think Venezuela will be sending much oil to the USA afte this?
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lol just saw this....
Robertson's call for the assassination of Venezuela President Hugo Chávez was not the first time Robertson captured attention with an eyebrow-raising comment. Among them:
He suggested that the Sept. 11 attacks occurred because "we have insulted God at the highest level of our government."
He once warned Orlando, Fla., that God might send hurricanes its way if Disney World continued to recognize gay-pride events.
He has said feminism encourages women to kill their children and become lesbians.
He once called for blowing up the State Department with a nuclear device.
He said he considered liberal judges a more serious threat to America than "a few bearded terrorists who fly into buildings."
Not all Christians however are like Mr Robertson....
Bob Edgar, general secretary of the National Council of Churches USA and who served as a Pennsylvania Democrat on the House Select Committee on Assassinations from 1976 to 1979, said Robertson's comments made no sense.
"It defies logic that a clergyman could so casually dismiss thousands of years of Judeo-Christian law, including the commandment that we are not to kill."
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Ok ok enough about the Left, Robertson is a righty. Yes he's a tool. Sometimes we aren't proud of our tools but, sometimes you have to keep your tools on the wall in the shed ready for use if you ever need it. I allways like to say the right tool for the right job.
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There is NO Job that idiot is right for. Except for looking like a fool. He is entertaining however.