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Title: Venting
Post by: nirvana on August 23, 2005, 09:57:35 PM
I hate school.  I think expectations are filthy.  Honors classes and advanced placement classes suck, because they build even more expectations.  I don't expect to be told by my teachers to "try harder" and I won't if they tell me too.  I think teachers suck.  I think teachers have no right to stand in front of a class for 90 minutes and ask rhetorical questions.  I don't answer their questions.


Teachers are sniveling dweebs with no respect for students, although they say they have respect.  I don't respect the school "authority figures", screw them and their lovely little world.


Also homework, it has no effect on how well I do on a test.  Test are pointless and not a measure of how much you learned but how much you can memorize and for how long.  Learning=memorizing.  I believe you can learn all you need to through experience.  I believe 8 hours a day of school is too long, I believe the government and schools try to force too much into minds.



Thinking out loud.....well  EXPECTATIONS SUCK!
Title: Venting
Post by: Sandman on August 23, 2005, 09:58:25 PM
Might as well get used to it. School never ends.
Title: Venting
Post by: nirvana on August 23, 2005, 10:07:35 PM
Oh yeah?

Here's more ranting:  School causes stress. After 2 days of stress I have flipped out on my mum and sister, telling my mum she was pissing me off and my sister, "no difference then everything else in this country" after she said i'd have to answer a lot of questions if I wanted to drop a class (namely spanish.  

Then there are the inch thick 10LBS textbooks that don't ever fit in your 4 inch wide, 4 inch deep 4 foot tall locker.  Carry those 2 10lbs textbooks all day then 5-10lbs of other junk and my supple young 15 year old body is just about crushed to the point Ineed a chiropractor.  


Point is i may start asking the school district or government for money to supplement my anxiety/stress medication and chiropractor bills.
Title: Venting
Post by: mosgood on August 23, 2005, 10:08:28 PM
McDonalds is always there for ya bud.


btw... I'll take mine with extra fries.....
Title: Venting
Post by: Russian on August 23, 2005, 10:09:34 PM
enjoy your freedom. It will end soon(tm)
Title: Venting
Post by: Russian on August 23, 2005, 10:10:49 PM
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Originally posted by mosgood
McDonalds is always there for ya bud.


btw... I'll take mine with extra fries.....


add 20 nuggets to that, thanks. :rofl
Title: Venting
Post by: detch01 on August 23, 2005, 10:12:36 PM
Sounds to me like you need to learn to say this with a smile:
"Would you like fries with that?"

asw

The older I get the smarter my parents and teachers get
Title: Venting
Post by: Mustaine on August 23, 2005, 10:13:32 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
Oh yeah?

Here's more ranting:  School causes stress..
really? :rolleyes:


:rofl :rofl :aok :p

seriously, at 15, you got ALOTTA "stress" ahead of you bro. you got senior year and deciding on college, or what not, prom, athletics, other activities, your first "long term" girlfriend, your first major break up, and TONS of minor things that will seem like the end of the world @ the time.

best advise, is remember to have fun, even if you make an arse of yourself in the hallway by having your pants fall down or something. just laugh it off, and move on.

there is LOTS of life ahead of you
Title: Venting
Post by: Gunslinger on August 23, 2005, 10:14:20 PM
yes further example that youth is waisted on the young.  I envy you Nirvana I really do.  One day you will reach a point when it hits you "everything your 'mum' and teachers ever told you was for a reason and they were mostly right"

My epiphany was my first duty station going to Avionics school and doing laundry for the first time.
Title: Venting
Post by: RightF00T on August 23, 2005, 11:26:15 PM
Nirvana I'm guessing you're in your sophomore year?  School can't be that bad buddy...heck if the work is all you have to worry about you have it made.  You could easily be stuffed into trash cans every day and have to endure a job after school as well.

Speaking of minimum wage, if you figure out that you can handle the workload of school after this year, consider finding a fast-food or similar job in the area.  After working there for a while, you will soon get an appreciation for an education and have a general feeling that you don't want to be doing that kind of thing the rest of your life.  Just remember education= options.  Noone can take that from you.  

Sorry if I'm sounding like an after school special but it sounds like you just need a kick in the butt to get back into things.  Good luck this year.
Title: Venting
Post by: nirvana on August 23, 2005, 11:39:11 PM
I worked for my step dad 10 hour days as a mechanic for 7 weeks before school.  I think i'm gonna press the easy button once and drop the class I least desire to be in, Spanish 2.  The teacher is somewhat less then desirable, and while you can't always change your boss I can in this situation.  Plus I don't plan on going to Mexico or any other spanish speaking country soon.  If you live in America, you speak English. Period.  


Despite what you say Gun, I choose to question whether the teachers know what they are talking about, they may have a college degree but that college degree means that the Wright brother's first flight last 12 minutes and they went 30 miles, this according to my science teacher last year.  She also chose to scare us with the "microwaving plastic wrap causes cancer".  Snopes said that is false.  

Education gives you options because people say it makes you smart and more qualified, doesn't necesarily mean it's true.  A guy I know, who I don't necesarily agre with, dropped out of high school when he was 16, he then started a job at a fast food restraunt:aok   He would rather work 5-6 days a week then go to school.  I really have a lot of opinions on this but my 15 year old mind is probably too nieve to understand what i'm even talking about.  And yes I am a sophomore.
Title: Re: Venting
Post by: Holden McGroin on August 23, 2005, 11:47:00 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
Also homework, it has no effect on how well I do on a test.  Test are pointless and not a measure of how much you learned but how much you can memorize and for how long.  Learning=memorizing.


I had an epiphany my spring term as a freshman in college.

I worried over tests and grades and thought grades were the end product of education.  

When I decided to learn the concepts, my grades went down slightly, my stress level plummeted, and I still remember and can use engineering concepts I learned 10 tears ago.  If I can't find a reference to look up a formula, I can remember the formulas by knowing the concepts and the units I need for the answer.  

I learned that when I gave up memorization and actually learned the concepts that were being taught, I kept the knowledge.
Title: Venting
Post by: Russian on August 23, 2005, 11:58:37 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
A guy I know, who I don't necesarily agre with, dropped out of high school when he was 16, he then started a job at a fast food restraunt:aok   He would rather work 5-6 days a week then go to school.  


Hay, I know someone who did same. Oddly enough, he is still living with his mom, no degree, but he can flip burgers quite skillfully.  I guess that’s expected, to flip burgers skillfully that is, after 6 years.
And nothing is stopping you from approaching that teacher and tactfully telling his mistake.
Title: Venting
Post by: Shane on August 24, 2005, 01:54:15 AM
if anything, stay in school just to learn how to run a spellchecker.

speeling iz phundazmentel.

serve out your sentence and hush up, the rest of us did - supposedly.

back in the old days we had to actually research and type our term papers.

the google generation has it easy! ipods are a priviledge, not a right!

:aok
Title: Venting
Post by: eagl on August 24, 2005, 02:08:15 AM
Drop Spanish and if you ever want to go to college, they'll probably make you take it as a remedial course.  Then you'll be sitting in a room full of 400 other people taking remedial spanish from a grad student who couldn't care less about expectations or how quickly you flunk out.

Quitting is easy.  So easy, it's habit forming.  Start now, and 30 yrs from now you'll be sitting in your singlewide wondering why you ever tried to finish anything.
Title: Venting
Post by: Lizard3 on August 24, 2005, 02:35:37 AM
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Originally posted by eagl
Drop Spanish and if you ever want to go to college, they'll probably make you take it as a remedial course.  Then you'll be sitting in a room full of 400 other people taking remedial spanish from a grad student who couldn't care less about expectations or how quickly you flunk out.

Quitting is easy.  So easy, it's habit forming.  Start now, and 30 yrs from now you'll be sitting in your singlewide wondering why you ever tried to finish anything.


^LOL, and this from a lame-O Jet Fighter Pilot. Sheez!!!


:D
Title: Venting
Post by: J_A_B on August 24, 2005, 03:04:15 AM
nirvana--

Store these posts.  Put them in a letter or something and don't touch it for ten years.  Read those posts you made once you're 25.  You might not disagree with what you previously wrote, but you WILL get a laugh out of it for the same reason that most of us are getting a good-natured laugh out of it.

What you wrote may not necessarily be wrong, but that stuff is the least of your problems.  


J_A_B
Title: Venting
Post by: Vulcan on August 24, 2005, 04:02:41 AM
I had some similar issues at school. One of them got to the point where I attended the classes but totally ignored the teacher (and laid several complaints about him). I studied under my own steam and passed well, while the rest of the class suffered and overall failed.

Lessons to be learn't, the school system is not infalable. However, that doesn't give you an excuse to stop learning. What you do know lays the groundwork for the rest of your life. If you are dissatisfied, complain to the top, complain loud enough so they won't harass you if you do as I did.

Just don't waste time being bitter or stressing out. I often think teachers are those people who can't hold a real job. Its pretty harsh, and there is a bunch of really good teachers out there who don't fit this hole, but they are the minority.
Title: Venting
Post by: CyranoAH on August 24, 2005, 06:31:40 AM
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Originally posted by nirvana
Plus I don't plan on going to Mexico or any other spanish speaking country soon.  If you live in America, you speak English. Period.


Repeat after me: "Querra patatas fritas con su pedido?" :D

Hey, I'm just preparing you for the future! :rofl

Daniel
Title: Venting
Post by: thrila on August 24, 2005, 06:44:06 AM
As someone who has been in and out of education i believe if you don't want to learn you aren't going to learn.  I really couldn't be arsed when i was a teenager and couldn't care less about education- though luckily i'm naturally clever and got decent grades regardless of my 43% attendance.  I left when i was 17 and went back a couple of times but still didn't really care if i passed or failed.  I would get bored and eventually quit.

After a bit of travelling i decided to go enroll at college and do my a-levels for the purpose of joining the RAF- it gave me the drive and determination to study.  Maybe i got lucky but i got on with all of my lecturers (perhaps this is because i was more mature myself being 20) i had no trouble going up to them and asking Q's if i didn't understand something.

Well i passed this year but i've put my RAF plans on hold.  I really got into microbiology and had a great time at college so i'm off to uni in sept to  study for a degree in microbiology/virology.:)

Until you want to learn (academically) you wont leave with anything worth while from school.  On the bright side you can always go back at a later date, though i dunno how it works in the US, but in UK i only had to pay 30% of my fees so the option to go back was always there + i'm getting a 1k grant from the govt in sept (that's my beer money sorted for a couple of months):D

My advice would be to drop out and go back when you have the motivation.  Working in ****ty jobs for a couple of years will do that for some people.;)   For every person that makes a success of himself with no education there are at least 10 others who work all hours of the week, in a job they hate just to make ends meet- for the rest of their life.
Title: Venting
Post by: crowMAW on August 24, 2005, 07:17:19 AM
Someone's hormones are raging!  The emotions you are feeling--the agitation, stress, etc--are normal for your age.

If you can, stay in Spanish.  I am sure wishing I had taken Spanish back 25years ago when I had the chance.  You never know where you will end up.  I would have never expected that the company I would eventually work for (right here in the USA) would have as much invested in Latin America as it does.  Not to mention many of my co-workers are of Hispanic decent...being able to understand their language is an important part of understanding their culture and background...those are important when trying to build the working relationships needed to influence change.

Hang in there...
Title: Venting
Post by: stantond on August 24, 2005, 07:30:51 AM
This is coming from a guy that most would consider has way too much education... the purpose behind formal education is to teach you how to learn.  Sure, the spanish instructor is not your first pick on a team, but this *is* a team effort.  If you don't want to learn, he can't teach you.  Recognize an instructors purpose in life is for you to get new skills.  Their methods may be not the best, but if you approach the situation from a viewpoint of common goals, things will fall in place.  Of course if you don't want to learn, they why get flustered to begin with?  Flunking out is trivial.  

Regarding science and other teachers that are wrong... this is true!  Just because it is written in a textbook, or you read it on the internet doesn't make it so!  That is where understanding the concepts is critical.  Education, if taken from the right perspective, will enhance your ability to 'think for yourself'.  

Myself, I have always enjoyed learning and found instructors to be generally useful.   There are always courses you must 'grind' through, but doing a good job at something you don't like is a sign of maturity.  Of course, there is not a requirement that anyone become mature much like there is no law against stupidity.  Not everyone is smart about everything.  Often the best path is just do the best you can with what you have, accept it, and move on.


Regards,

Malta
Title: Venting
Post by: Westy on August 24, 2005, 07:36:03 AM
lol.   Mosgood and eagl beat me to it.
Title: Re: Venting
Post by: DREDIOCK on August 24, 2005, 08:42:48 AM
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Originally posted by nirvana
I hate school.  I think expectations are filthy.  Honors classes and advanced placement classes suck, because they build even more expectations.  I don't expect to be told by my teachers to "try harder" and I won't if they tell me too.  I think teachers suck.  I think teachers have no right to stand in front of a class for 90 minutes and ask rhetorical questions.  I don't answer their questions.


 EXPECTATIONS SUCK!


LOL you would not do well in my house at all.
and I have only two main rules with my kids.

1-Lay off drugs (or I will commit you myself)

2- Bring me the grades. Grades are expected to and only allowed to go up  not down.
I like to use the Bogart quote "Excellence is standard, Standard is substandard, and substandard WILL NOT be tolerated.


Ask my kids and they will tell you I mean it. Bring me the grades and I will let you do almost anything you want and bust your chops about very little within reason.
But bring me the grades.

Dont bring me the grades or let your grades drop even from a A or B to a A or B - and you will not make me a happy camper.
Let them drop a full grade  and I can and will make life under R. Lee Ermey in  the movie Full Metal Jacket seem like fun. (Minus the physical abuse).

Complaints  or vents like yours would fall on deaf ears and only serve to raise my ire. Which is something you would very quickly figure out you dont want to do LOL

Yea school sucks but it sure beats out what comes afterwards.
I'll trade you any day
Title: Venting
Post by: indy007 on August 24, 2005, 09:45:42 AM
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Originally posted by eagl
Drop Spanish and if you ever want to go to college, they'll probably make you take it as a remedial course.  Then you'll be sitting in a room full of 400 other people taking remedial spanish from a grad student who couldn't care less about expectations or how quickly you flunk out.


Not 100% true. It depends on the school. UH exempted me from the Spanish pre-req because of a high SAT score & UIL team competition. Not something I'd rely on though.

Nirvana, no matter how much it sucks, you should still take a language. While I agree, in America, you should speak English, the fact is, alot of people you will have to deal with, simply don't. It's too useful not to have. If you think your Spanish teacher is a moron, you'd go on a rampage if you'd had mine. She gave us a German 4 test, and yelled at us when we pointed out it was a Spanish 2 class... I set the curve... with a 12... yes, out of 100... I dropped the class 1/2 way through. In Florida, my Spanish 1 teacher would have 'Nam flashbacks and dive under his desk. We had to take cover also. Kinda scary, but when the man with the gradebook thinks mortar rounds are incoming, humor him.
Title: Venting
Post by: Seagoon on August 24, 2005, 11:52:34 AM
Nirvana,

Unfortunately, I went through my school years with a terrible attitude. I was kicked  out of my first school in the UK at the age of 4 and things didn't improve much after that. In elementary school, I was the self-appointed class clown and my school day followed pretty much the same schedule every day:

1) Arrive without homework (or with a few pages scribbled on the bus or cribbed from others)
2) Begin disrupting the class immediately
3) Get kicked out to stand in the hall
4) Read book brought from home in the hall, goof with anyone else passing through
5) Be reluctantly readmitted
6) Repeat step 2
7) Get detention
8) Get sent to the Principal's office
9) Hear lecture #4,405,433 (none of which was paid attention to)
10) Repeat step 4, except this time in the principals office
11) Bell Rings, go to detention

Whenever I returned home from school on time, my mother immediately suspected I had skipped detention, which was invariably the case.

Unfortunately, my High School career wasn't too terribly different, and my report cards didn't disappoint my parents, they made them extremely angry.

Had my mother not gone through the agonizing process of teaching me to read at age 3, I wouldn't have learned anything at all. As it is, my mathematics skills are at best rudimentary.

All of this was largely due to the fact that I firmly believed the following:

1) I was the smartest and most important individual on the planet and I already knew everything worth knowing.
2) My teachers were the stupidest and most contemptible people on the planet and knew nothing worth knowing.
3) School was an evil conspiracy designed to stop me from having fun, which I was determined to circumvent.
4) Rules were for the weak and less important
5) School was absolutely unnecessary, because once people learned how much smarter I was than them, they would be falling all over themselves to give me a high paying job.

It wasn't until University (which I got into because of my test scores, not my academic record which was appalling) that I began to find out that several of my assumptions might be flawed. This produced a rather nasty depression, which I attempted to counter via drugs, booze, and a generally depraved life-style. After I graduated from University, having squandered the opportunity to get a really excellent education, in favor of simply doing the bare minimum necessary to get my MA and indulge my self-destructive habits. I found that my generally crappy attitude and lifestyle not only didn't work in school, it also didn't work in the workplace and that they were quite willing to fire you rather than put up with antics.

It really wasn't until I became a Christian and began taking seminary classes part-time that I ever began studying or taking education seriously, at that point I could have wept at the time and opportunities I had wasted. I had been standing on the verge of vast treasurehouse for many years and had foolishly determined my time would be better spent frolicking in the cesspool.

Since that time, I've had to commit myself to reading and studying at twice the rate I would have otherwise. I wasted the opportunity to become a real scholar who might have been a benefit to others in the academic community, and instead will have to be content with being thoroughly mediocre when it comes to academia. Plus, my math skills are still pathetic, long division makes me sweat.

Please remember that in academia, no amount of natural talent or intelligence will entirely make up for a poor attitude towards study and education, the skills you can potentially aquire or fail to aquire now will have a lasting impact on your future life and work. Believe it or not, a failure to push yourself and endure "the stress" can result in life-long regrets. There are few sentences as sad as those that begin with  "I wish I had..."

On the other hand, cheerfully submitting to a process you will later realize wasn't nearly as difficult as you thought, really will bring life-long benefits to you, your family, you vocation, and potentially even the human race.

Persevere in this!

- SEAGOON
Title: Venting
Post by: vorticon on August 24, 2005, 12:48:05 PM
you know, i managed to graduate with fair marks (around C+ B- ish in american terms) and i didnt do much of anything the entire time, trick is to make sure your doing very few courses (minimum to grad) so the workload (HA, never was to much anyway) from the important classes never felt like much... oh, and dont go to more than 1 party a month.


oh and 1 inch textbooks are nothing. for grade 12 social i had a stack of books about 1 foot thick, luckily i never had to carry them all at once, but they was there.

lockers? didnt even use them for grade 11 and 12, managed to keep everything in 1 binder...
Title: Venting
Post by: Skydancer on August 24, 2005, 12:57:18 PM
Nirvana. These guys are right but I got to hand you some respect. Most of the guys your age, I work with can hardly string two intelligable words together let alone type out a relatively coherant rant!!!

These are good days for you my freind. Try to enjoy em, they go fast. The rest of life can be great but you got to graft a bit too to make em so. And sometimes you got to swallow that pride a little and learn to listen to people who've been on this planet a tad longer and have already been through the same ole stuff you are going through.

Vent and then get on with it pal. You don't want to be flipping burgers all your life trust me.
Title: Venting
Post by: Maverick on August 24, 2005, 01:03:09 PM
Nirvana,

Others have already covered most of what went through my mind When I read your post. I just wanted to add something to what they said.

You mention that the teachers don't respect yo0u. Well respect is something that is earned. Unlike a lot of things in school that are just given to you because you showed up for class, respect is another issue. Like most adults your teacher is aware of and expects you to actually DO something worthy of respect to earn that respect. Being surly, closed minded, and too full of yourself doesn't get it done.

Of course you won't realize that until enough years have passed that you actually get some experiance and perspective in what the world is really like instead of the sheltered and pampered world you have been living in. There is freedomo to fail in this country once you are out of school. The penalty is NOT just a bad grade or being sent to your room. It can be fatal, hopefully just to yourself if that happens. Try not to take anyone else with you.
Title: Venting
Post by: eagl on August 24, 2005, 03:35:12 PM
Skydancer has a good point - Vent and then press on.  That's great advice for your entire life.  I personally recommend sports but at this point in your school career if you haven't found a competitive sport you're good at, it may be tough to break into one.  But find something productive to get your mind off of school for a little while, preferably something involving physical activity.  Vent occasionally.  But press on and make it your goal to succeed at everything you do in spite of the bastards holding you back.

Want to beat that spanish teacher?  Then don't let him drive you out of the class.

FWIW, I burned out in 10th grade and took one too many advanced AP classes.  I got a 1.8 GPA.  That summer, I visited the USAF Academy and finally found something worth going for.  For the next 2 years, I took all "regular" classes except for 2 advanced computer classes and Calculus, got varsity letters in swimming and water polo after doing nothing but "club" competition through 10th grade, and forced myself down the path towards becoming a fighter pilot.  I got 3.8 GPAs my last 2 years in HS and put down a 1390 SAT score.  But at the end of 10th grade, I wasn't sure I'd ever be worth a damn at anything.  I wasn't ready to quit, but I sure wasn't doing very well at anything.
Title: Nirvana
Post by: Eagler on August 24, 2005, 04:03:14 PM
sounds like you need a new handle


get a grip kid, life is tough
Title: Venting
Post by: Simaril on August 24, 2005, 05:03:37 PM
As said above, trying to separate the drive for grades from learning stuff can reduce stress tremendously.

Jump thru the hoops the trainers put there -- its ok to recognize them for what they are, but dont get pissed off about them. They are part of life, no matter what you end up doing.


Learn to think and understand what's happening, and you can actually have fun in classes. Teachers (if they're good) will respect you more for original, well thought out ideas than they well for leet memorization skills. Dont disrupt class, talk to them without nastiness or arrogance, but feel free to make em earn their keep otherwise. Profs at university used to get really discouraged at the way most students never got past regurgitating facts.



And -- dont blow off all this "learn how to think" advice. My daughter's not into math, but when she realized that ALL problem solving -- including car repair -- relies on "isolating the variable" she suddenly had a different attitude towards algebra. Higher math seems useless until you accept that it also teaches your brain to use higher forms of abstract thinkning, which will help you all over.
Title: Venting
Post by: nirvana on August 24, 2005, 05:14:19 PM
Thanks guys, haven't read them all just yet but I will.  I have decided to finish the semester, because we are moving.  Figure if I want to work at McDonalds I need AT LEAST a second year of Spanish to talk to my co workers around here:rolleyes:


Querer papas fritas senor?  No?  Lo siento senor.
Querer un gato en tus pantalones? En el pantalones!  Horrible.
Title: Venting
Post by: nirvana on August 24, 2005, 05:40:03 PM
Oh the hormones, OH THE RAGE.  I don't like sports, because, in my point of view anyway, they are all a bunch of stuck up salamanders who are better then anyone.  Same with most of the teacher around here, some are nice but others aren't.  I know it's not the right thing but respect is a mutual thing.  I respect teachers for the first few days 'til I get a grip on what they are really doing.  If I don't like em, they get nothing.

Hell, I hardly say a word in class which drives a stake in between me and teachers sometimes.  

Drediock I can't imagine being your child.  I would have gotten a record number of whoopings at the end of 8th grade and a 4 year punishment, I got an F.  You know why? GIRLS, I talked to them too much.  I got a C (amazingly) in Geometry last year, why?  TALKING.  When you are a teen girls are just sooo.......distracting:)
Title: Venting
Post by: Shane on August 24, 2005, 06:09:39 PM
*you* concentrate on the books... let *us* take care of those teen girls for you.... err i mean the ones of legal age anyway!

:cool:
Title: Venting
Post by: vorticon on August 24, 2005, 06:14:21 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
I know it's not the right thing but respect is a mutual thing.  I respect teachers for the first few days 'til I get a grip on what they are really doing.  If I don't like em, they get nothing.

Hell, I hardly say a word in class which drives a stake in between me and teachers sometimes.  



easiest way to deal with teachers you dont like is to be more interested in what there teaching than who they are...if that doesnt work see if you can get a transfer to a different school if you cant stand your teachers...

handy tip for the girls, just manouver where you sit so there between you and the teacher, then you can oggle less distractidly
Title: Venting
Post by: KONG1 on August 24, 2005, 06:28:49 PM
Making good grades in school doesn’t make you smart, being smart makes it possible to make good grades.  Most people have it backwards.

Point is this.  The education system is just a game.  Your success at the game is an indicator of, not a creator of your intelligence.  Just play the game, by the time your 21 you can have a bachelors.  This will allow for more choices of what game to play next.

Point two is this.  Lot’s of hot girls in high schools and colleges so go.  Just wrap your willy or you will have less choices of what game to play next.

Your teachers may be mediocre.  Get used to it.  Mediocrity is the norm.  If someone’s good at something they want to advance to the next level.  They stop advancing when they reach something they don’t do very well, and there they stay (Peter Principal).  Just the way it is.  Dealing with crappy situations and crappy people is a skill in and of itself.  

Last thing, about respect.  Don’t expect a lot of respect from other people.  Just make sure you behave in a manner such that you respect yourself.  That’s what really matters.
Title: Venting
Post by: crowMAW on August 24, 2005, 06:43:51 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
Querer un gato en tus pantalones? En el pantalones!  Horrible.


!Yo tengo pantalones muy importantes!
Title: Venting
Post by: Masherbrum on August 24, 2005, 07:51:27 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
I worked for my step dad 10 hour days as a mechanic for 7 weeks before school.  I think i'm gonna press the easy button once and drop the class I least desire to be in, Spanish 2.  The teacher is somewhat less then desirable, and while you can't always change your boss I can in this situation.  Plus I don't plan on going to Mexico or any other spanish speaking country soon.  If you live in America, you speak English. Period.  


Despite what you say Gun, I choose to question whether the teachers know what they are talking about, they may have a college degree but that college degree means that the Wright brother's first flight last 12 minutes and they went 30 miles, this according to my science teacher last year.  She also chose to scare us with the "microwaving plastic wrap causes cancer".  Snopes said that is false.  

Education gives you options because people say it makes you smart and more qualified, doesn't necesarily mean it's true.  A guy I know, who I don't necesarily agre with, dropped out of high school when he was 16, he then started a job at a fast food restraunt:aok   He would rather work 5-6 days a week then go to school.  I really have a lot of opinions on this but my 15 year old mind is probably too nieve to understand what i'm even talking about.  And yes I am a sophomore.


You have "reckoning" to look forward too.  You're all full of piss and vinegar and you are 15?!   Remember this, Repect your elders, it is becuase of them, that you are here.   Oh and one other thing.  When you are 25 years old, you'd swear that someone opened the blinds.

Good Luck in Life bud.

Karaya
Title: Venting
Post by: FALCONWING on August 24, 2005, 10:37:10 PM
School always came easy for me...i goofed off out of boredom...Straight A's and Straight poor conducts all the time. Varsity letterman cause i liked the attention. I thought i had it all figured out...had a letter to the AIr Force Academy with Senator behind me...Dad was Colonel in the USAF.  I was all set to be a fiter pilot.  SAT's 1380....

Then i found out I had Muscular Dystrophy...thought I needed a knee brace cause it kept giving out whe i was hiking...Air Force MD figured it out and a muscle biopsy later it was confirmed...16 years of dreaming of flying a fiter out the window and whole life upside down.  Not to mention the prayers i prayed while i waited for the biopsy results.....

Point is..you never know what the future holds so dont limit yourself son.  Work hard and be good at everything you do..it will make you better in the end.  School is not a game...it is a time for learning but more importantly maturing into a decent human being with good ethics and understanding how to get along with one another.

BTW im fine....became a doctor instead...married a beautiful doctor as well and have 3 great kids and one otw.  But i get weaker each year...cant go up steps or run anymore etc.  Howver i thank God everyday for what he has given me. I hope someday you do too and not be filled with regrets for what you let slip thru your hands
Title: Venting
Post by: Shuckins on August 24, 2005, 10:48:34 PM
Most worthwhile things in life can only be acquired through diligence and hard work.

Education is no exception.

Your teachers are there to guide you...not to entertain you.  They can't be Eddie Murphy every day in the hopes of enticing a bunch of spoiled momma's boys/girls to act in their own self-interest by actually "pursuing" an education.

You may be a pretty decent kid, but stop feeling sorry for yourself, grab the bull by the horns, and get-r-done.
Title: Venting
Post by: nirvana on August 24, 2005, 11:24:00 PM
You are lucky you don't hear me on squad vox half the time Karaya, then there is all the negativity and pessimistic remarks.  I really don't know how they put up with it.  Anyway, I concentrate on school as much as possible, it is a "job" which you get paid for in "education".  As it is though, I don't care much for the administration running it and I think we, the students, should be allowed to vote for that kind of stuff.  If we are the generation of the future give us a chance to vote.;)   You guys think voting for teachers and principals etc. would give them something to think about?
Title: Venting
Post by: Hangtime on August 24, 2005, 11:58:51 PM
"supple young body?"

????
Title: Venting
Post by: FiLtH on August 25, 2005, 02:03:03 PM
I wish I had high school "stress". Actually I hated school. Ive worked hard my whole life. When I could have worked smart if I had just applied myself a little more back in high school.

  This is your chance...dont blow it. Buck up and study hard. Show the world what you can do. Dont be just another "victim of society".
Title: Venting
Post by: Maverick on August 25, 2005, 02:07:42 PM
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Originally posted by nirvana
You are lucky you don't hear me on squad vox half the time Karaya, then there is all the negativity and pessimistic remarks.  I really don't know how they put up with it.  Anyway, I concentrate on school as much as possible, it is a "job" which you get paid for in "education".  As it is though, I don't care much for the administration running it and I think we, the students, should be allowed to vote for that kind of stuff.  If we are the generation of the future give us a chance to vote.;)   You guys think voting for teachers and principals etc. would give them something to think about?


The phrase, inmates running the asylum, pretty much covers what you just poposed. Rather accurately I might add.
Title: Venting
Post by: BlueJ1 on August 25, 2005, 02:22:55 PM
Entering my Senior year. I worked my arse off for this year. I can now sit back and take easy 1/2 credit courses and not worry about regents or passing major classes. I dropped spanish in my sophmore year only because it was to much of a workload, and my teacher was one of those who says, "yea I got a headache today so just do whatever. "  And I dont have to worry about college what so ever. So my stress level this year will be at an all time low, will beable to pay more attention to my lady friends.


Compared to yall who went to school 15 plus years ago, teachers are not the same. Teachers now adays are, for the most part, looking for more money then teaching. My AP U.S. History teacher couldnt remember the years of WWII.
Title: Venting
Post by: Simaril on August 25, 2005, 06:17:16 PM
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
School always came easy for me...i goofed off out of boredom...Straight A's and Straight poor conducts all the time. Varsity letterman cause i liked the attention. I thought i had it all figured out...had a letter to the AIr Force Academy with Senator behind me...Dad was Colonel in the USAF.  I was all set to be a fiter pilot.  SAT's 1380....

Then i found out I had Muscular Dystrophy...thought I needed a knee brace cause it kept giving out whe i was hiking...Air Force MD figured it out and a muscle biopsy later it was confirmed...16 years of dreaming of flying a fiter out the window and whole life upside down.  Not to mention the prayers i prayed while i waited for the biopsy results.....

Point is..you never know what the future holds so dont limit yourself son.  Work hard and be good at everything you do..it will make you better in the end.  School is not a game...it is a time for learning but more importantly maturing into a decent human being with good ethics and understanding how to get along with one another.

BTW im fine....became a doctor instead...married a beautiful doctor as well and have 3 great kids and one otw.  But i get weaker each year...cant go up steps or run anymore etc.  Howver i thank God everyday for what he has given me. I hope someday you do too and not be filled with regrets for what you let slip thru your hands








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Title: Venting
Post by: nirvana on August 25, 2005, 10:35:54 PM
Here's the bare minimum, 1 credit=a full year of class, .5 credit=semester of class.

English:4
Social studies:2.5 U.S. History required (1 credit)
Math:3
Science:2
P.E.:2 (.5 must be health)
Electives:6
Applied tach.,fine arts, business/marketing or vocational education, computer education, consumer/family studies:1.5

You are, however, expected to have AT LEAST 7 classes per year.  8 if you really want to fill in your schedule and lose an off period.  You follow a very strict schedule, 4 classes for freshman, sophomore's, and junior's, must be math, english, science, social studies, or world language  Senior's are required to have AT LEAST 5 classes, 3 being math, social studies, or english.   So while you may only need 3 credits of math, they REQUIRE you to take 4.:rolleyes:
Title: Venting
Post by: AWMac on August 26, 2005, 12:36:11 PM
So you can yell out "PRICE CHECK" with confidence!

:D
Title: Venting
Post by: Curval on August 26, 2005, 12:58:59 PM
Dred...great post.  :aok