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Title: 65" Plasma - yummmm
Post by: Rolex on August 25, 2005, 11:35:43 PM
Panasonic showed off their new 65" high-definition plasma television in Tokyo yesterday. They go on sale in November in Japan for less than 1 million yen (US$9,072).

Ahaaarrrr!

(http://tech-rep.org/plasma.jpg)
Title: 65" Plasma - yummmm
Post by: Mustaine on August 25, 2005, 11:39:43 PM
hock your watch and buy one then :p
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Post by: Meatwad on August 25, 2005, 11:52:19 PM
Gimmie the babe


Speaking of TV's, years ago there was talk of implementing televisions with some sort of chip so when the local cable, satellite, or OTA station issues an EAS (Emergency Alert Signal), it would turn the tv on by itself so anyone at home can hear the warning. One of the main reasons this was being done was the number of deaths and injuries from nighttime tornadoes. What ever happened to this idea, was it scrapped?
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Post by: SunKing on August 26, 2005, 12:22:17 AM
Damn I'd love to watch the Sharks season on that badboy.
Title: 65" Plasma - yummmm
Post by: Nilsen on August 26, 2005, 01:42:33 AM
actually abit too big i think.

32-37 is perfect for a tv imo.
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Post by: Siaf__csf on August 26, 2005, 02:10:12 AM
Who watches tv anyway these days? I don't.

Well I must admit I watched a fear factor rerun last night. Only thing I saw on tv this whole week.
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Post by: SaburoS on August 26, 2005, 02:15:10 AM
Don't Plasma TV's have a life of about five years or so?
Aren't LCD's better?
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Post by: Nilsen on August 26, 2005, 02:31:06 AM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Don't Plasma TV's have a life of about five years or so?
Aren't LCD's better?


Plasmas has less ghosting unless you buy really expencive LCD's and they are far better at displaying black/dark colours.

Oh... and cheaper
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Post by: mora on August 26, 2005, 03:16:06 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
actually abit too big i think.

32-37 is perfect for a tv imo.


65" Is way too big for any ordinary living room. Nothing more irritating than watching a too big TV. If you cannot focus on the whole screen, your eyes will get tired real fast, and it may be harfmul in the long run. For example a 32" is absolute maximum for my tiny 25m2 flat.
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Post by: Nilsen on August 26, 2005, 03:20:50 AM
Yeah...

Gets grainy too when the resolution is too low for such a large screen.

LCD's and Plasmas are really not good enough for me yet. Best picture i have ever seen was a 32 inch flat CRT widescreen. Cant wait for the Samsung HD model that is due out these days. The missus has allowed me to get one, and it wont set us back that much either. Yum!
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Post by: Siaf__csf on August 26, 2005, 03:29:01 AM
Bah 32" is way too small for a decent livingroom. My livingroom is 12 meters long, I have a 32" crt at the moment and it looks like a postage stamp on the back wall.

Earlier it was in a 18m2 room and even there it was so and so.

The 150" image that I get from my projector, however, is more like the way it should be. ;)
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Post by: Nilsen on August 26, 2005, 03:32:17 AM
If i was a rich fella or lived in a barn and had 12 meters from one end to another then 32" would be too small.

but i dont :D
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Post by: mora on August 26, 2005, 03:32:17 AM
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf My livingroom is 12 meters long, I have a 32" crt at the moment and it looks like a postage stamp on the back wall.[/B]

no ****, Sherlock!:)
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Post by: Waffle on August 26, 2005, 05:09:25 AM
TV out of PC = Nice sized screen for AH :)
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Post by: lazs2 on August 26, 2005, 08:02:27 AM
I watch movies... I have a 62" tv.  It might be too big for regular tv but.... who watches tv shows?  In DVD's you only watch a prtion of the screen... on a 32" TV you can't even see what is going on when the top and bottom have a 10" stripe... reall meaning to "letterbox".  When I buy a HDTV it will be a 62" mitsubishi like the one I have only in HDTV and DLP.  

lazs
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Post by: indy007 on August 26, 2005, 08:09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Who watches tv anyway these days? I don't.

Well I must admit I watched a fear factor rerun last night. Only thing I saw on tv this whole week.


Military Channel (338 on Time Warner), Deadliest Catch (29)... History channel if a good Modern Marvels is on.

Other than that... mmm, the relatively new I-Control In Demand (instant premium movies with pause/rw/ff) isn't bad. Just pick what you want and it streams at dvd quality.

That's pretty much the only things that show up on my TV, but I've put a stupid amount of hours on the projector lately.
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Post by: mora on August 26, 2005, 10:41:49 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
I watch movies... I have a 62" tv.  It might be too big for regular tv but.... who watches tv shows?  In DVD's you only watch a prtion of the screen... on a 32" TV you can't even see what is going on when the top and bottom have a 10" stripe... reall meaning to "letterbox".  When I buy a HDTV it will be a 62" mitsubishi like the one I have only in HDTV and DLP.  

lazs

Almost all new TV sets here have a 16:9 screen, and that's what we are talking about. 4:3 is ancient history, movies and most TV shows except american ones are broadcast in 16:9 format.
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Post by: Nilsen on August 26, 2005, 10:51:30 AM
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Originally posted by mora
Almost all new TV sets here have a 16:9 screen, and that's what we are talking about. 4:3 is ancient history, movies and most TV shows except american ones are broadcast in 16:9 format.



Same here.. all are widescreen. No HD tv yet tho. There will be some european channels available this fall, but within a couple of years all norwegian channels will have chosen a HD format. From what ive heard they will all make the switch on the same day.
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Post by: sling322 on August 26, 2005, 02:49:39 PM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Don't Plasma TV's have a life of about five years or so?
Aren't LCD's better?


I think plasmas have a life of about 7 yrs if you left them on 24 hrs a day/365 days a year.....think I read that somewhere.  Dont recall what the actual number of hours was though.
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Post by: Nilsen on August 26, 2005, 02:53:50 PM
The number of hours seem to go up on each new generation of plasma.
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Post by: Siaf__csf on August 26, 2005, 03:52:46 PM
You will need to replace your old CRT tv in 5-6 years anyway so why worry. Electronics won't last forever.
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Post by: Nilsen on August 26, 2005, 03:57:27 PM
That depends on the electronics. A microchip baked into some sort of solid substance should if its kept within reasonable temperatures and not exposed to weather, magnets or radiation.

:p
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Post by: LePaul on August 26, 2005, 05:13:03 PM
The Panasonic sales rep was up at our Sears a while back.

I asked these same questions...supposedly they are rated for 50,000 hours, same as CRT

Plasmas eat a lot of power...put your hand over one.  New source for heating your house!

Plasmas have a better contrast ratio because they can do true black.  LCD is a white-light source filtered for the color they need to generate.  Just a different and ever improving technology.

If you want 42" to 65" and money is no factor, go plasma.  Otherwise, hang on as LCDs slowly go beyond 32 inch.  If you have a chance, check out a 32" LCD HD TV...they are incredible.
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Post by: Skuzzy on August 26, 2005, 05:26:30 PM
Plasmas can burn though and they do run hot.  It is a tough call these days.  

DLP is cool, until the mirrors stop flipping and you start losing bits on the screen.  Until they get a good 3 chip DLP out there, the rainbow effect will be bothersome to some people.

LCD lacks good black levels and are limited on colors.  They can ghost too.

LCD rear projectors lack good black levels.  And require a new bulb periodically.  Ghosting does not seem to be prevalent on the high end units.

CRT's are limited on size.

LCoS might be the best of all, but is still young.  It has the advantages of LCD, but the black levels of a plasma set due to not using reflected light.


All of them have some drawbacks.  If I had not gotten such a good deal on the 65" I got, I would have waited.
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Post by: Mustaine on August 26, 2005, 05:33:36 PM
what about OLCD's (organic LcD's)?
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Post by: Skuzzy on August 26, 2005, 05:35:57 PM
I knew I forgot one.  OLCD's have promise, but it will be a while before they can be mass produced at a reasonable price.
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Post by: Nilsen on August 27, 2005, 02:20:26 AM
isn't that OLED?

Organic Light-emitting Diode
Title: 65" Plasma - yummmm
Post by: Masherbrum on August 27, 2005, 08:05:39 AM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Don't Plasma TV's have a life of about five years or so?
Aren't LCD's better?


First generation Plasma's were affected by a "Life Expectancy".  Current ones do not have this worry.

Karaya
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Post by: Skuzzy on August 27, 2005, 08:34:56 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
isn't that OLED?

Organic Light-emitting Diode
Yes, yes.  I made a boo-boo.
Title: 65" Plasma - yummmm
Post by: lazs2 on August 27, 2005, 08:41:49 AM
"Almost all new TV sets here have a 16:9 screen, and that's what we are talking about. 4:3 is ancient history, movies and most TV shows except american ones are broadcast in 16:9 format."

mora... I will buy what is available but..  the 4.3 I have works great for movies.. there is a black part top and bottom..  when a TV show is broadcast in the other format I have the same situation... so far... very few shows seem to be broadcast in anthing but 4.3  The problem I have with the widescreen right now is that they distort the image to fit the widescreen.   the stretch it out or they simply have blank stripes on the side...

lazs
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Post by: Nilsen on August 27, 2005, 08:49:30 AM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Yes, yes.  I made a boo-boo.


Only in real life do you get away with boo-boo's.. never in here. I talk from experience.

Its a tough crowd..:rolleyes:
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Post by: Eagler on August 27, 2005, 09:44:57 AM
well, if you can spin that 65" from landscape to portrait...
your porn could be life-size :)