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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Dr. Gonzo on August 27, 2005, 09:42:40 AM
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What is the best set up for saitek X45 as far as dead band dampening and the other settings on this page?
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for all of them - pitch, yaw, etc:
0 - 90 sliders: all the way up
deadpan and damping: all the way down
here is a AH Saitek profile (http://www.pogbird.com/X45) to get you started
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Eagler how can all the way up be good? That should make the stick extremely sensitive shouldn't it? Atleast for Pitch.
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I have mine flattened up to 60 then sharp rise to 90, a logarithmic curve
Having 'em up all the way would make my stick act like a crackhead after an expresso binge...
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That would be a great setup, except for the fact that the X45 sometimes decides to hate people. I've had 7 X45s in the past year begin spiking horibly; usually just where the spring lets go. This means that that sensitive slider setting would cause me to bounce insanely in every direction. Also, the plastic disk causes rubbing no matter what you do and will make the throttle spike after a while.
It seems like there is one low-quality or badly placed chip in the X45, as all 7 of my X45s died EXACTLY the same deaths. Lucky BestBuy sold me a replacement plan for $15.
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I guess so but that is the way I have always had my X45.
when I have to use my x52 (when the x45 is being repaired/replaced), I find I have to adjust them some because of sensitivity of the x52.
I heard about the flat setup from someone when I first replaced the analong x36 with the usb x45. It has been that way since ... maybe that is why it is so hard to get a hit :)
anyone else have a setup they wanna share?
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I have played with it alot today after coming to the conclusion that I was unhappy with the one I had.
The one I had was all the first (0-60) set quite low, 0 almost all the way down, 10 just a bit higher (increase height with about the size of the actual "marker" and then increase it with as much to 60 then the curve would steeping quite fast and go all the way up to 90.
I played some with this today and found that the 60 slider kicked in already when my stick was at 30% movement which was WAY too early, I expected the 60 slider to kick at 50% stick movement at the earliest. Played around some more and came to the conclusion I can't get it setup the way I want for unexplainable reason.
Using the Cougar setup instead now, see how I like it.
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Here is how I set mine up with the X-45 and CH pro pedals
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2393285.html
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2393286.html
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2393289.html
Hope this helps
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Originally posted by SNO
Here is how I set mine up with the X-45 and CH pro pedals
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2393285.html
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2393286.html
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2393289.html
Hope this helps
I have the exact same equipment. SNO posted this to the Ghosts website some time ago. It's an excellent set-up, try it.
My regards,
Widewing
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just tried SNO's setup offline and I think I will like it :)
thanks alot!!
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Thnx WW
Eagler you are welcome !
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Originally posted by Dr. Gonzo
What is the best set up for saitek X45 as far as dead band dampening and the other settings on this page?
He everyone! And it's perfect timing of this thread:)
Time for a dweeb question concerning my X45. I've had it for a year...never used it even once as work and family priorities kept me from doing anything else < sigh >, but I'm forcing myself to make some "me" time at the homestead and plan on doing some flying finally.
In short, I understand about the profiles and have one I've configured, but have yet to be able to test it. My thanks to the others that put up their own profiles as it helped in seeing what I could do with my own and I apologize for not remembering your names.
I can set up and use my stick within AH's stick mapper to mimic what my profile does and it seems to work as mapped. But how can I just get AH to use my actual profile? I tried to do that by enabling it before starting AH. I tried to do it by enabling it after I'm in AH, but still no joy. Is there something within AH that I need to do to tell it to ignore my original stick mappings within AH?
Sorry for such a dweeby question, but I'm a Smoking Wreck and if I'm to auger, I need to do it in a controlled fashion
Thanks in advance;)
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Originally posted by Fry
Hey everyone! And it's perfect timing of this thread:)
Sorry for such a dweeby question, but I'm a Smoking Wreck and if I'm to auger, I need to do it in a controlled fashion
Thanks in advance;)
Since when do SW's do *anything* in a controlled fashion? Hiya Fry. Get thee back into Bigweek ifluff'n you get a chance. News.kraits.org
Horn
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Originally posted by Horn
Since when do SW's do *anything* in a controlled fashion? Hiya Fry. Get thee back into Bigweek ifluff'n you get a chance. News.kraits.org
Horn
LOL! Hiya Horn! Thanks for the BW info and I'll be dropping by shortly:)
Ooooh boy! I can't wait to see how well a train blows up, hehe ;)
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The AH mappings overrule any other mappings. In order for a profile (I'm guessing you mean the macros in the X45 profile software) to work, you should unmap all AH JS buttons and setup the keyboard map to match the profile.
Or, you could do it the easy way; ditch the profiler and do it like a normal person in AH. The stick doesn't require any of the software to work.
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Originally posted by OOZ662
Or, you could do it the easy way; ditch the profiler and do it like a normal person in AH. The stick doesn't require any of the software to work.
"...normal person..."? I guess that rules me out .
Thanks for that tip about unmapping everything and I may try that if I get a chance. But right now, I happen to have all of them mapped within AH as you mentioned and it's working fine.
This whole profile thing isn't really a big deal as my stick IS working as I'd like. I just wanted to see if Saitek's stick software could offer me any advantages over the standard AH mapping. I didn't find anything really, so I'll probably just stay with AH's own mapping:)
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Tried the setup you listed and I think it works pretty well. The only bad thing is I can't use that as an excuse for getting shot down all the time.
I've been out of AH for almost a solid year now, rough going getting back to it. Is it just me, or is it extremely more difficult to hit something in the AHll?
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How does the setup work with the rocker rudder?
Also SNO whats your main ride that you made the setup for?
Or do you find it works well with just about any plane?
Thanks
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Dr. G, it is harder to hit things in AH2. Try setting your convergence to 375 and don't shoot until you are within that range.
Elyeh, I use this setup for all planes. When I used the rocker rudder I set the rudder just about the same as the roll and pitch but just a shade lower at the 0 band and then working the way up. The deadband on the roll is set just a shade higher to keep the gv guns from moving on their own, I leave it there most of the time although for planes setting the deadband lower is more ideal.
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Something else you might want to think about is changing out that stiff stock spring that comes on the X45, I used a shock spring off an RC truck and it works wayyyy better IMO... my hit % went up about 2-3% once I switched springs makes it allot easier to make small adjustments
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SNO
after using it awhile, I find it much harder to blackout
while this may sound like a good thing, it seems it takes much more movement of my stick to get the plane to react
guess I am just use to it with my original settings
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Eagler that is the main reason I set mine like that, when I first started I was jerking all over the place and blacking out on top of it. From going with the sliders all at the top to this setup I can see where you would find it like having to jerk the stick all the way back to get any movement. Try moving the 0 slider up about 1 1/2" and then look at the graph and move the other ones up to get a smooth curve. Maybe that will put the sensitivity back your looking for.
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Originally posted by SNO
Here is how I set mine up with the X-45 and CH pro pedals
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2393285.html
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2393286.html
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2393289.html
Hope this helps
SNO,
I'm anxious to try the setup but I'm a bit confused about the first link photo above.
Is that one for rudder or roll?
Thanks!!
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I've been using the CH pedals with the X45, but for some reasons the pedals crapped out. For now, I just went into AH and programmed the stick there until I get my pedals back and can go back to my .dat file.
Question: You guys who only program the X45 in AH - are you able to get the rotary wheels to work? In my .dat profile, I use them for trim, but they don't seem to be recognized in the AH set-up area. I'm talking about the two wheels on the throttle part....
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You have to calibrate the rotaries first in AH (roll them in AH's joystick calibration), then set them up in the joystick selection.
edit: Still had a pic of selecting 'em stored.
(http://www.sci.fi/~rixa/joysticksetup.png)
I use the profile editor for the buttons but I haven't mapped the rotaries in it, I've set the rotaries as trims in AH.
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Panzzer,
Thanks for the info. Now that you pointed it out to me, it seems like it should have been obvious how to do it. Must have been suffering from a brain fart or something...
Thanks again!
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CptHowdy, that is the rudder, look in the upper left of the dropdown in the pic and it says which axis it is showing.
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Actually, SNO, it says Roll in the first pic (as well as in the third). So you have two pics for the Roll-axis... ;)
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Hmmmm, I just clicked the links that cpt posted and they were rudder, pitch, and roll ???? dunno. If anyone is getting same thing Cpt and Panzzer are seeing lemme know I can email em to ya if ya want.
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In that first pic, it actually does say rudder, but there's also the dropdown box open with roll selected in it. Might confuse someone (me for example :)). However, reading the caption should make things clear.
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Updated the links and also for the throttle I invert the axis so you pull back on the control for full throttle, makes the buttons easier to access when the stick is back most of the time
Roll
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2426359.html
Pitch
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2426364.html
Rudder
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2426384.html
Throttle
http://home.comcast.net/~sshoe/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-2426405.html
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Started using SNO's setup, has improved my accuracy in shot in the extreme. No more slow speed bouncing around, turning is much better, not to mention just more control over the aircraft in general. Should be a sticky of this setup somewhere.