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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: GtoRA2 on September 02, 2005, 02:34:58 PM
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Tipping, how do you guys tip your servers when you go out to eat?
Now for me it has always been 15% for average service.
Average is they get the order mostly right, and they show up enough that I rarely need a refill on a drink.
Bad service can get anywhere from a penny and a nasty note to 10% for just a server who is marginal.
Bad service is getting the orders wrong, not refilling drinks as needed. The server being rude etc.
If I get great service, I leave 20 to 50% depending on how good it was and how good the food was.
Good service is never having to even think about a refill, they just come do it. Even half full gets a new drink. Getting the order right is a must, the food has to be hot when it comezs, and they have to be nice, but not to talky.
Now I know people who insist 20% should be given for average service, and that not getting refills on time or getting an order wrong is not reason to give them less then 20% and good should be like 30%
Oddly enough these are all people who had been waiters at one time.
Well I am sorry if you suck at the job, you are not getting what I consider a good tip. If you REALLY suck not only are you getting way less then ten, I may have a talk with your manager.
Am I behind the times here?
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I never tip, and no one ever expects it. The price is in the menu and thats that.
In the US I've given from 5% to 15%. A bit more on a few occasions.
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yeah well that's not how it works here.
The servers dont get paid much so they live on the tips. Thats why they should strive to be good.
So few are.
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If service was good, I tip whatever the tax was rounded up to the nearest dollar.
If the service was outstanding, I tip double the tax rounded up.
If the bartender is really hot, I'll tip same as outstanding + a dollar or 2 more.
If the service sucked, I'll tip 1 penny. Shows that you remember to leave a tip, but their service needs some serious improvement.
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I don't have a problem with the system, even though it's a bit inconvenient for someone who isn't used to it. It however doesn't work as good as one would expect.
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How do you tip in a bar? 1$ for each drink?
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Yeah, 15% is pretty much standard, though I usually leave around 20 to make things easier. I can go up or down depending on service and how much money I have.
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Standard 15% most of the time for me. More if they do a really good job. I don't have the gumption to give less than 15% if they sucked a little, and I haven't had REALLY bad service just yet. But I agree on giving bad servers the hint to shape up.
Sidestory - I went to Japan twice earlier this year for work. My supervisor and I did our homework and found out tipping is not required and in fact discouraged (it can be taken as an insult there). During the first trip, one of the members in our group tipped at every meal wherever we ate. Back at home here, he was accustomed to being treated well and giving big tips. But over there, the server would always chase after us to give him back his money. After some persuasion (none of us spoke Japanese well, and none of them spoke much English), they usually just took it but the rest of us remembered how awkward that was. During the second trip with a different group we decided not to tip at all and didn't have to deal with the awkward situations.
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Depends on how attracted I am to the waitress. If she's a looker I tip a lot, if she doesn't pique my intrests I tip little.
My theory is that tipping the hottie more will encourage her to stay in this low paying dead end job, thus making her more accessible to schmoes like you and I.
And the meager tips may encourage the not so physically gifted waitress to pursue financial independance and more rewarding vocations.
What can I say, I'm a naturalist.
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Originally posted by mora
How do you tip in a bar? 1$ for each drink?
Depends on how many drinks. If it's 1 or 2 drinks, $1 in their jar. If I'm gathering up an arm full for my table, I'll throw in $3 or $4. Also depends on 2 other important factors: how strong the mixed drinks are & is the bartender rude or not.
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20% usually
it's gotta be very bad service to drop to 10 or 15
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Originally posted by Eagler
20% usually
it's gotta be very bad service to drop to 10 or 15
You ever been a waiter Eagler?
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Originally posted by mora
How do you tip in a bar? 1$ for each drink?
I base it on how long I was at the bar based on my experience being on the OTHER side of the bar serving...usually a $1 or $2 for one or two cocktails/beers if I'm there before dinner.
If I'm camping out for 3 hours for a ballgame on TV, I'll usually leave $5-$10 for the bartender, as that is what he could have potentially made off the stool I'm occupying during that time. If dinner is invovled at the bar (or more than 2 appetizers) I'll go the normal 15%-25% of the check based on the service(assuming its between normal and excellent service)
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Tipping? I agree with Mr. Pink...
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One thing I hate is when people tip a percentage of the tax. It's ****ing tax. No way am I tipping on that. Tip on the subtotal.
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Isn't the difference in culture amazing, here in NZ its actually considered a bit rude too tip. Most people are embarassed somewhat by receiving tips - they consider they should strive to do a good job anyway. The only excepts are tourist spots with a lot of exposure to americans where they get a bit greedy.
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i take total, and give 5 for every 20. round up when in between
in a bar, depending on how the first few drinks are and how the service is $1 per drink.
lousy service (wait to be served longer than others) or way weak drinks gets whatever change from bills ($3.50 drink gets 50¢)
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Tips go by service. and how much money I have.
The better the service. the better the tip. I've gone as high as 40% for really good service.
Really bad service. I've gone as low as a penny
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I don't think I've ever tipped so low.
The lowest I've tipped was 5% or so. It wasn't because it was bad service, it was because that's all I had. I felt so bad afterwards.
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In the states I always tipped the first couple of drinks. It always results in fast service even when busy for the next couple of drinks. I rarely bother tipping in Irish pubs. In one or two of them the barmen short change or overcharge you when they think you are too P***ed to notice. Believe me I'm never that far gone.
To be honest you rarely get bad service these days. So you end up taking it for granted. In restaurants it's about 10% but my wife likes to give more. But when you're paying 70 or 80 Euro for a meal that soon adds up.
I've heard in New York that the minimum is about 15% or even 20%. Less than that and they practically call the cops.
:eek:
You don't always get tipped for good service. My sister worked in a Greek restaurant in New York during her time as an illegal alien. Apart from from arguing with the Greek owner in front of the customers. She used to verbally abuse customers, (in a jokey way). Quite feisty, my sister. That actually generated huge tips from the New Yorker customers who liked her style. She hated European customers (ironically) because they were lousy tippers. Called them 'Eurotrash'. :lol
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I usualy give em money! ;) :lol
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Originally posted by Wotan
Tipping? I agree with Mr. Pink...
:aok
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My wife figures that stuff whe nwe go out. But if Ihappen to be alone, I tend to give to much if the service was good. A 5 dollar tip for a 10 dollar meal is common. My wife would shoot me. But usually we go about 15%.
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25% and we dine out frequently and tend to be regulars. this pays off when the place is full, believe me you are known and will be promptly seated.
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For dinner, I start at 10% and go up or down from there depending on service. I sometimes have trouble swallowing if I don't have something to drink, so when my glass empties I simply can't eat until I get a refill. If I have to quit eating because they haven't bothered to come by, the tip starts decreasing. If I never have to wonder if they're going to stop by to see how we're doing or offer another water refill, the tip goes up.
At the bar, I start at 25% and try not to worry about it although once when I'd had a little too much, I put $20 down on a tall rum and coke and walked away from the change. Oops. It's easier to be cool and popular enough that other people buy your drinks for you, so you only have to tip once when it's your turn to demonstrate your generosity by buying everyone in sight a round.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I don't think I've ever tipped so low.
The lowest I've tipped was 5% or so. It wasn't because it was bad service, it was because that's all I had. I felt so bad afterwards.
Pancakes, Western omlet With bacon and homefries.
Took forever to get waitress to take the order. then did so with an impatient and not so friendly attitude.
Had to ask waitress for coffe while I wa swaiting. Coffee tasted like it was brewed about a week ago.
Half hour later meal arrives...ICE cold.
Eventually got the attention of the waitress who upon hearing the complaint sighed,rolled her eyes and toook the meal away promising to come back with a new one.
10 min later the meal arrives again. Same exact dish I just sent back. I could tell by the corner of the omlette that was cut off only reheated I am assuming in a microwave.
Too hungry to argue and at this point starting to be pressed for time myself I ate it. Bacon overcooked. pancakes undercooked and the eggs had more the consistancy of soft rubber then any omlet Ive ever had before.
Toast was so dry I wouldnt eat it
but hey the OJ was pretty good.
and for that I left a penny
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I tip 20% (that's the standard now, aint it?)
I keep that consistent - good service or bad. I mean, we all have crappy days. And some days we're just not as on the ball as on other days.
Tips are now factored into the service industry worker's salary, so if they don't get a tip - it's basically like a cut in an already meager paycheck. My livelihood doesn't fluctuate depending on what my mood ring or horoscope indicates, nevermind my smile, speed and ass..... and I reckon it should be the same for the grunts (essentially) that happen to be serving me.
So I'll tip them 20% no matter what.... but if my sense is that the bad service is part of the "culture" there, then I just won't be back.
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Yes, nash is correct (I meant to bring it up).
Most waiters and waitresses earn below minimum wage. It is assumed that they will make extra money from the tips.
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Originally posted by Nash
I tip 20% (that's the standard now, aint it?)
The only people I know who think 20% is standard are people who were servers of some kind. I do not think it is standard.
I give 20% if the service is good fairly often, but ONLY if it is good.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Yes, nash is correct (I meant to bring it up).
Most waiters and waitresses earn below minimum wage. It is assumed that they will make extra money from the tips.
Well then they should do a very good job to earn more then the standard 15%
If they suck they don't deserve ****, its called a tip for a reason.
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Maybe it's a regional thing. I'm pretty sure it's 20% here. I know it was in New York when I was living there. I've never worked in the service industry, though.
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Servers are the wrong people to ask if thats where you got the info. :D
Still it may, but I will NOT pay 20% for bad service.
Meal costs have gone up over time, so 15% is still fair.
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I googled it. The standard seems to be between 15 and 20%.
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I have left pennies on two ocasions.
One the waiter got my order wrong 3 times then never cameback to fix it the last time.
I had to get another waiter to take over.
It was cool cause she was model hot. I handed her the tip and put a pennie on the table left. The GF wouldnt let me stay to talk to the manager.
The other one was my 21st bday. We walked into an all night lions, at 1:15, the server came up, said I will be right back, then came back and pulled the same thing, by the time she took the order is was 2:05 and I couldnt order my 21st birthday beer.
She was hot but she got a pennie.
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ok, so we were both right.
Still don't think it should a be a flat 20% some waiters just suck and you cringe when you get them again.
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10% standard, maybe 20% if the waitress is hot, i know her, or she's really good...and as a canadian, i probably have a higher standard than americans,
but thats because canadian waitresses make a fair amount of money, and most of them are in the 16-22 years old and living at home range
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For food, I generally go 15 - 20%. If I'm at a bar, which is pretty rare, usually it's a buck or two when I leave. At $5 a drink, they should be able to pay the bartender well...and if not, tough. If it isn't a total rip off, then the tip goes up considerably.
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JOE
All right. I'll take care of the check. You guys can get the tip. Should be about a buck apiece. And you, when I come back, I want my book.
MR. WHITE
Sorry. It's my book now.
JOE
Hey, I changed my mind. Shoot this piece of ****, will you?
EDDIE
All right. Everybody cough up some green for the little lady.
Come on. Throw in a buck.
MR. PINK
Uh-uh. I don't tip.
EDDIE
You don't tip?
MR. PINK
No - I don't believe in it.
EDDIE
You don't believe in tipping?
MR. BLUE
You know what these chicks make? They make ****.
MR. PINK
Don't give me that. She don't make enough money, she can quit.
EDDIE
I don't even know a ****ing Jew who'd have the balls to say that. Let me just get this straight. You don't ever tip, huh?
MR. PINK
I don't tip because society says I have to. Alright, I mean I'll tip if somebody really deserves a tip, if they really put forth the effort, I'll give 'em something extra, but I mean this tipping automatically is for the birds.
I mean as far as I'm concerned they're just doing their job.
MR. BLUE
Hey, this girl was nice.
MR. PINK
She was OK - but she wasn't anything special.
MR. BLUE
What's special, take you in the back and suck your dick?
EDDIE
I'd go over 12% for that.
MR. PINK
Hey Look, I ordered coffee, right? Now we've been here a long ****in time, and she's only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee, I want it filled six times
MR. BLONDE
Six times? Well, you know, what if she's too ****ing busy?
MR. PINK
Words "too ****ing busy" shouldn't be in a waitress' vocabulary.
EDDIE
Excuse me, Mr. Pink - the last ****ing thing you need's another cup of coffee.
MR. PINK
Jesus Christ - I mean these ladies aren't starving to death. They make minimum wage. You know, I used to work minimum wage. And when I did, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job society deemed tip-worthy.
MR. BLUE
You don't care they're counting on your tips to live?
MR. PINK
You know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin playing just for the waitresses.
MR. WHITE
You don't have any idea what you're talking about. These people bust their ass. This is a hard job.
MR. PINK
So's working at McDonald's, but you don't feel the need to tip them, do you? Why not? They're servin ya food. But no, society says don't tip these guys over here, but tip these guys over here. That's bull****.
MR. WHITE
Waitressing is the number one occupation for female noncollege graduates in this country. It's the one job basically any woman can get and make a living on. The reason is because of their tips.
MR. PINK
**** all that.
MR. BROWN
Jesus Christ!
MR. PINK
Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's ****ed up. That ain't my fault. It would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government ****s in the bellybutton on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non-college bull**** you're giving me, I got two words for that: "Learn to ****in type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big ****in' surprise.
MR. ORANGE
Hey - he's convinced me. Give me my dollar back.
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Heh Wotan. After the "Mr. Pink" post, I went and looked back at it myself. What a great movie.
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Yeah I just finished watching it for 100th time. After reading the post and replying earlier today I had the scene stuck in my mind.
Even when reading the script I hear the characters voices...
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I'm the only male server where I work. I usually get anywhere from 15% - 18%. I consider a 10% tip to be lazy, I don't give bad service. I always check back a few minutes after food is delivered to see how everything is and if drinks need to be refilled. I always clear plates and never talk the table's ear off. And on a $30 check I get a $3 tip...when I know I gave above average service. That portrays you, the customer, as cheap or with below average math skills - or both.
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Originally posted by SOB
For food, I generally go 15 - 20%. If I'm at a bar, which is pretty rare, usually it's a buck or two when I leave. At $5 a drink, they should be able to pay the bartender well...and if not, tough. If it isn't a total rip off, then the tip goes up considerably.
So true. The staff shouldn't get a bigger tip just because management is gouging. Serving a drink is serving a drink. Serving a meal is serving a meal. It doesn't get harder if the food costs more. Tip should be independent of price.
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What I tip usually depends on both the quality of service and on how busy the place is--I'll leave more on a slow night. I tend to be fairly generous with tips since the places I eat at tend to be the kinds of places that pay a pretty small base wage to their waitresses.
I tip the waitress/waiter less if he uses the word "server" in describing himself. I hate PC crap.
J_A_B
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20% from me most of the time. If you go to the same place alot you need to tip good, the servers do remember.
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Well... minimum wage is lower for waiters/waitresses up here than it is for people in other lines of work.
I tip 15-25%, unless service is poor then it could range from 0 to a $1 or $2.
If I am a regular or know the server of course it goes up, and yeah.. I'll tap the hot waitress a little more...
Some places put all the tips in a pot and share it out at the end of the night... I would like it if establishments made this public knowledge, though unless its a CC receipt they have no way of knowing how much was collected in tips anyways...
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Originally posted by SKurj
and yeah.. I'll tap the hot waitress a little more...
LOL! Calling doctor Freud!
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Oh, by the way, I consider too much attention worse than no attention.
I don't want to have to answer how my meal is inbetween every Golly-geen bite.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Oh, by the way, I consider too much attention worse than no attention.
I don't want to have to answer how my meal is inbetween every Golly-geen bite.
Oh yeah, spot on, just make sure I don't need more drink and the order is right. Maybe show your hooters if your hot... :D
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My wife was a waitress and we usually give 20-25%. We can take mistakes as everyone makes them, but if you're rude to us for no reason then the tip starts to dwindle. Remember guys in the USA the minimum wage is only $2.13 an hour for a waitress/waiter. A lot of them have harder jobs than most think, try cleaning up after a family with 4 kids who have parents who don't think they need to control their kids in public. Or better yet wait until the kid pukes from eating too much and then expect that waitress to clean it up. Just would make you really happy with everyone I'm sure.
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I just have to share a story that most servers/bartenders I'm sure can relate to, and that being teachers are usually the worse tippers (at the 5 different restaurants I worked at, this was always the case)
We had to fire a cocktail wattress after she hosted a huge gathering of public school teachers who came in after one of their "workshops" for free appetizers and happy hour. There were 12 in the group. My CW worked her butt off, getting them free apps, drinks, etc. They had her running! After camping out in her section for 3 hours, and spending an insane amount of money on cocktails (even at Happy hour prices), when they got up to leave, they left a total of 32 cents on the table (probably by accident, as one gent was cleaning out his pockets at one point in the evening) She picked up the change and threw it at the customers as they were exiting the lobby, calling them every explicit name under the sun, with "Cheap bastards" inbetween the choice words. We had to let her go after several of the teachers called and complained to our GM.(One even said "Tipping is NOT required by law!" ....)
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Ouch. In PA at least, Tipping for large parties IS required by law. But most often, it is automatically included in the check.
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I'm usually a good tipper 20% as long as the service is descent or if the waitress is really hot or whatever. On a side note, I went to Cabo San Lucas with my family about a year ago and stayed at the El Presidente hotel ( all inclusive, meals drinks everything free ) Anyways they had 2 restaraunts there and they were mexican and Italian, we wanted some steaks one night and the chef made us some, only for our family, so I left the guy a $20 bill... I get back to the room and the chef is calling me to say that I left some $ on the table, and I said no that is for you, Thank you for the steaks they were great, he thanked me and said thats the most money he's ever made in a day and made us some lunches the next day because we were going marlin fishing... To make a long story short the service in the US has just gone down the crapper in the last 10 years, heck I can't even find me a bartended down here that can even make a layered drink actually layered lol... The only possible fix I see to the problem is for ppl like me to stop tipping for lousy service, heck you go out to a bar nowadays and everytime the girl brings you a drink she's expecting a buck ir two... If its a good night I could have up to 15 - 20 beers ( I am in TX u know ) thats 15-20 extra bucks I got to give to the waitress... Whats really bad is when your at a club or somewhere and your with your wife or GF or whatever and the lady comes by selling roses or taking pictures or something, its like you have to buy them or you look like a jerk in front of your significant other. I swear you can't go out and do anything anymore for under $100 if you take your family, its crazy. What happened to $5 outfield cheap seat tickets and $1 movie tickets, cheapest baseball tickets I can find are $25 bucks a pop( and thats for the TX rangers, I wouldn't even consider them an actual baseball team lol ) and if the kids wanna go to the movies, tickets are $8, drinks and popcorn are like $6 bucks, you have to drop your kids off with $100 bucks lol, when we were young I couldn't even imagine $100 lol, and heck I'm only 26
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allot of restaraunts and places like that will include a gratuity on the check when there is a large group or a large bill, for those 12 teachers ya'll should have added that to the bill, unless they were all ordering seperately which I doubt they were because I'm sure they put it on there expense accounts, teachers are notorious for stuff like that when on those "workshops".. heck if I take 4 or 5 customers out to eat or to a bar, they always add it in. and contrary to what that teacher said tipping IS expected in this country and even if the service is sub par you are expected to pay an extra 10% at least, 20% for a good job, thats just common knowledge, something a teacher should have known. If I was GM of that bar I would have a rule that says if theres a group of 5 or more or the bill goes over $100 I add an automatic gratuity to the bill
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Iceman24 try the Kansas City Royals, i think their cheap seats are $10-$15. Crap $25 a ticket gets you the good seats around this place. lol
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Wotan great post dude, love that movie
on another note about tipping
What services do we find tippable ??
waitresses, bartenders, servers, heck I have friends that tip the kid at Albertsons for carying out the groceries, like in the movie society says we tip this guy but not that guy, who and what are we tipping for nowadays. Do you tip flight attendants for drinks ? I have a feeling this is going to get out of hand in the future and I'm gonna have to tip the guy at the Texaco to reach up and hand me a pack of smokes lol
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I have been to KC, Royals games might be cheap but try and get a friggin Chiefs ticket, ouch !!! U guys are serious about the Chiefs up there, you have to buy tickets a week in advance, I go to Dallas Cowboy games every other week and get my ticket 30 min b4 kickoff