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Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: hitech on September 06, 2005, 01:30:22 PM: (http://downloads.hitechcreations.com/hitech/Bird Strike 001.jpg)

They do make a mess of things. I wasn't flying it, my A&P was.

HiTech
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Fry on September 06, 2005, 01:46:06 PM: Yikes! Glad to see it wasn't the windshield....
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Pooface on September 06, 2005, 02:09:10 PM: holy faeces!!!

ok ok, i got a joke; what was the last thing to go through the birds mind as it died??

its legs!!! LOL:lol

glad to hear ure ok tho ht:aok
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: eilif on September 06, 2005, 02:09:35 PM: Eeeww, nasty, looks like you were lucky, i saw a photo of a cessna that took a bird in the canopy, looked like a missile hit it.
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Post by: mora on September 06, 2005, 02:17:44 PM: Looks expensive.:eek:
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Post by: Curval on September 06, 2005, 02:25:28 PM: mora, that was my first thought too.

Is this an insurance claim HT? If so, and you do claim, what would be the effect on your future premiums?

I think of repairs on a sliding scale here...dunno about anywhere else:

Motorcycle...minimum $250 just to have someone look at it

Car...minimum $500

Boat...Break out another thousand

Plane...????
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: hitech on September 06, 2005, 02:32:10 PM: That would have been about a 1k hit, but Randy my A&P who was flying the plane did the repair. It was in the gas tank, he removed the tank, could get inside and iron out the dent.

Looks like brand new after the repaint of the tank.

HiTech
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Mustaine on September 06, 2005, 02:46:09 PM: Quote
Originally posted by hitech
...Looks like brand new after the repaint of the tank....
but is it as safe as new, and as reliable? that impack had to do some type of strain on the wing root airframe wouldn't it? (i know nothing about planes, but do know some about cars and structures)
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: hubsonfire on September 06, 2005, 03:01:48 PM: HOST :Bird has collided with you.
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Pooface on September 06, 2005, 03:03:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by hubsonfire
HOST :Bird has collided with you.

ROFL, good one:D :lol :aok
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Lazerr on September 06, 2005, 03:42:51 PM: Wonder what a Canadian Goose would do... :D
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Post by: DREDIOCK on September 06, 2005, 03:59:50 PM: Quote
Originally posted by mora
Looks expensive.:eek:

Dont worry. his dad is a television repair man. He has this ultimate set of tools.
He can fix it;)
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Pooh21 on September 06, 2005, 04:00:21 PM: there is a bird posting somewhere about skilless ramming HO dweebs
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Kev367th on September 06, 2005, 04:02:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Lazerr
Wonder what a Canadian Goose would do... :D

Dunno about that but we had a Gazelle brought down by a golf ball.
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Rino on September 06, 2005, 04:09:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Lazerr
Wonder what a Canadian Goose would do... :D

Here's a site a quick google brought up Birdstrikes (http://www.birdstrike.org/events/signif.htm)
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Simaril on September 06, 2005, 04:09:37 PM: Ummm....

What's an A&P?
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Siaf__csf on September 06, 2005, 04:16:28 PM: (http://mersuforum.net/forum/images/avatars/5455742443049ab6c671f.jpg)
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: SuperDud on September 06, 2005, 04:49:40 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Simaril
Ummm....

What's an A&P?

Airframe and powerplant mechanic. Basically another way of saying airplane mechanic.

And the flippin bird should learn to merge...geeez!
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Post by: RTR on September 06, 2005, 05:09:41 PM: Looks like the spar would be back behind the fuel tank. The fuel tank would have absorbed most of the impact and there should be no effect on the spar.

Also, the dent looks like it has no sharp edges or creases, just a nice round crater. Quite repairable, it basically looks lke it could be pushed out from the inside, stripped of paint, inspected for cracks and then leak checked. (which is what sounds like happened).

Up and flying again in a few hours.

Could have been alot worse. Lucky guy.

Birds have a nasty habit of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The problem is that when you are moving through the air they go from being a small dot to feathers in the blink of an eye.

Birds are HO-tards:D

cheers,
RTR
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Post by: TracerX on September 06, 2005, 06:02:24 PM: How did that thing miss the propeller, or did it? I noticed some blood higher up on the fuselage.
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Post by: Sandman on September 06, 2005, 06:05:57 PM: Excellent color choice. :aok
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Post by: traps on September 06, 2005, 06:55:53 PM: Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Dont worry. his dad is a television repair man. He has this ultimate set of tools.
He can fix it;)

LMFAO

Dude my brother is gonna kill :rofl

birds scare the beejeesus out of me, hate when the fly across the runway when on short final, or deer standing in the grass next to the runway just waiting to sprint out in front of you when you touch down :huh
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Post by: AmRaaM on September 06, 2005, 06:57:45 PM: geese at 70mph look similar,

many moons ago when i was younger i drove a big rig hauling logs, hit a gaggle of geese flying through some trees lining the road on hwy99 north in No. Cal splattered about 20 of them, blood, guts, feathers, couple heads and plenty of geeze watermelon all over the front and sides of my cab. Smashed the radiator grill in about 2 inches is all it did to my rig.

PS ,mill security plucked 2 birds out of my cargo (logs) alive. He was a Pakistani and took them home for din din.
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Post by: FiLtH on September 06, 2005, 07:04:10 PM: Does A&P still give Greenstamps?
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: vorticon on September 06, 2005, 09:57:36 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Siaf__csf
(http://mersuforum.net/forum/images/avatars/5455742443049ab6c671f.jpg)

dinner?
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Roscoroo on September 06, 2005, 11:00:54 PM: Verson 2.005 fixed problem with B1RD strikes not affecting airframe
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Toad on September 06, 2005, 11:27:04 PM: Glad you folks didn't get hurt and I'm glad it wasn't a serious ding.

Remember, they'll usually dive so tell him to suck that stick back next time. ;)
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Wolfala on September 07, 2005, 12:53:28 AM: Date: 03 June 1995
Aircraft: Concorde
Airport: John F. Kennedy (NY)
Phase of Flight: Landing roll
Effect on Flight: Aircraft was towed to gate
Damage: Engines
Wildlife Species: Canada geese
Comments from Report: Aircraft ingested a Canada goose into the #3 engine which had an uncontained failure causing parts to go into the #4 engine. Both engines were destroyed. Flames and smoke were seen coming from both engines. Cost was over $9 million. Aircraft was out of service for 5 days. The NY Port Authority paid $5.3 million in compensation for losses

Interesting how the Port Authority paid for that and none others.
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Post by: Grits on September 07, 2005, 01:24:49 AM: Damnit...hub beat me to it...
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Post by: Flit on September 07, 2005, 01:55:46 AM: Quote
Originally posted by hubsonfire
HOST :Bird has collided with you.

Ya got it backward, it should be "You have collided with a bird"
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Slash27 on September 07, 2005, 03:49:39 AM: Im calling PETA!!!:mad:

Did the seat need cleaned too?:D
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Post by: Siaf__csf on September 07, 2005, 04:48:33 AM: Quote
Originally posted by vorticon
dinner?

A bird stricken through a mercedes-benz sign.
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Lizard3 on September 07, 2005, 06:06:45 AM: In a recent magazine article I read about a motorcycle racer, Marty Cagille or Cargile, an Aussie who seemed to have allot of bad luck at the end of the race seasons. one year he hit a 40 pound gull doing 170 and broke his collar bone, dislocated his shoulder and pulverized his bicep, with optional nerve damage.
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Suave on September 07, 2005, 08:20:06 AM: Man versus Nature
The Road to Victory
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Jnuk on September 07, 2005, 09:08:32 AM: Quote
with optional nerve damage

i think i mighta left that option on the show-floor :)
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Post by: Curval on September 07, 2005, 09:16:06 AM: Randy.

In England this translates to "horny".

I was in the UK last year and a guy who does the billing for a law firm here sent an outstanding invoice which we were disputing. His name was Randy Trott.

The accountant laughed and said "That's not a name...it describes last Friday night." lol
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: DFATITAN on September 07, 2005, 10:23:09 AM: A Flock of Canadian Geese took down an AWACs in Alaska in September 1995. Lost of friend of mine on that flight. 1 goose is bad enough but a flock can be devastating.

Glad your A&P and plane survived. :aok

>S<

TITAN
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: CMC Airboss on September 07, 2005, 01:24:51 PM: Wow, lucky it was a small bird with a hit like that at the wing root. Glad the A&P and the plane survived. I saw the results of a canada goose imact on an Apache (twin) outer wing leading edge - it looked the results of a telephone pole pushing 1/3 of the way into the wing structure.

MiG
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Wolfala on September 07, 2005, 01:55:29 PM: Back in May I wacked a Seagull around the Statue of Liberty in a Mooney 201 doing about 200 at 300 feet. Dad was in the right seat - luckily. After all the blood was wiped off - this was the damage. Impact just above the stall fence - but nothing noticable otherwise. Tough nut eh?

(http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/f5e033b4/8fe9/__sr_/8669.jpg?ph4wzHDBio7Yzyne)
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Post by: Fariz on September 07, 2005, 02:03:05 PM: lol, sorry, saw my joke was already used by someone.

Damn copyrights...
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Post by: LYNX on September 07, 2005, 06:24:15 PM: I had a bird strike once... Was doing 65 MPH on me Z200 (motorcycle) and tuck it full in the face on me nose from a "sparrow". Lucky me lid was down. That peace of 1.5 mm plastic really saved me. The force was that great that one of me hands came off the bars. I didn't know your head could go that far back without braking ya neck.
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Post by: Tails on September 08, 2005, 06:58:57 AM: Hmmm, judging by the smear it left on the wingroot, and the cowling, I'd say the poor bastage was nicely diced by the prop before impact. Pretty small critter too.

And fuel-tank repairs aren't all that hard, as long as Hitech's A-P friend remembers to put a new coat of sealent on the inside (the old stuff likely cracked and flaked form that).

I've seen a couple bird-strikes myself, or rather the results. One was a pigeon that put a basketball sized hole in the side of the nose of a T-38. Another was an osprey that made it (mostly) intact through a Cessna 182's prop disk, only to cave in the passenger-side windscreen.
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Apar on September 08, 2005, 11:03:01 AM: Quote
And the flippin bird should learn to merge...geeez!

Yeeeaahhh the fediddlein rammer! :rofl
Title: Bird at 190mph
Post by: Apar on September 08, 2005, 11:04:54 AM: ohh and I think its save to say that the bird should be ok because the ram took only place on the A&P's FE :D

Nevertheless glad to hear the A&P is ok ;)