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Title: Corner Speed for Ki-84?
Post by: Karash on September 06, 2005, 07:31:37 PM

I have searched the forums and haven't found anything conclusive for AH2.  Does anyone know the optimal cornering speed for the AH2 modeled Ki-84?  Also, is the data on climb and speed accurate at http://www.netaces.org ?

Thanks!

Title: Corner Speed for Ki-84?
Post by: Kweassa on September 06, 2005, 11:56:26 PM

I haven't got any info on the corner speed, but I do have the info on turn radius comparison.

[b]List of planes in order of smallest Turn Radius at normal flight conditions[/b]


Type: Radius
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A6M2: 122.3m
Hurricane Mk.I: 134.5m
A6M5: 138.7m
Spitfire Mk.I: 141.5m
Hurricane Mk.IIc: 145.2m
Spitfire Mk.V: 156.0m
Seafire Mk.II: 159.4m
Spitfire Mk.IX: 164.0m
Hurricane Mk.IId: 166.2m
FM-2: 170.4m
Spitfire Mk.IX(50cal): 170.6m
Bf109E-4: 183.9m
Bf109F-4: 184.5m
[b]Ki-84-I-Ko[/b]: [b]185.1m[/b]
F4F-4: 186.8m
Spitfire Mk.XIV: 187.9m
Ki-61-I-Tei: 193.4m
Bf110C-4: 197.8m
La-5FN: 199.8m
Spitfire Mk.XIV(50cal): 200.8m
N1K2-J: 202.0m
Bf109G-2: 202.1m
C.202: 202.1m
Yak-9T: 205.0m
Yak-9U: 205.5m
La-7: 207.5m
La-7(3x20mm): 207.5m
P-40B (1.0): 207.7m
P-40E: 208.2m
Bf109G-6: 208.8m
Bf109G-6(30mm): 215.2m
Tempest Mk.V: 215.2m
F4U-1D: 216.4m
F4U-1: 219.2m
Mosquito Mk.VI: 222.7m
Bf109G-10: 225.5m
Bf110G-2: 227.0m
C.205: 227.2m
F4U-4: 227.2m
F6F-5: 227.7m
Bf109G-10(30mm): 229.3m
Typhoon Mk.Ib: 232.0m
P-38G: 235.3m
F4U-1C: 242.1m
P-51B: 243.9m
P-47D-11: 250.5m
Me163B: 254.1m
P-47D-25: 257.0m
P-51D: 258.6m
Ta152H-1: 261.9m
Fw190A-5: 269.0m
P-38J: 269.0m
P-47D-40: 271.6m
P-38L: 275.0m
Fw190D-9: 283.4m
Fw190F-8: 293.0m
Fw190A-8: 296.3m
Fw190A-8(30mm): 296.3m
Me262A: 392.0m




[b]List of planes in order of smallest Turn Radius with one notch of flaps used[/b]

Planes that does not have intermediate flap settings use figures normal flight settings.

They are marked with  *


Type: Radius
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A6M2: 114.5m
A6M5: 124.5m
*Hurricane Mk.I: 134.5m
*Spitfire Mk.I: 141.5m
*Hurricane Mk.IIc: 145.2m
FM-2: 146.9m
*Spitfire Mk.V: 156.0m
[b]Ki-84-I-Ko[/b]: [b]157.3m[/b]
*Seafire Mk.II 159.4m
Bf110C-4: 161.0m
*Spitfire Mk.IX: 164.0m
*Hurricane Mk.IId: 166.2m
F4F-4: 167.9m
*Spitfire Mk.IX(50cal): 170.6m
N1K2-J: 174.2m
Bf109E-4: 176.8m
Yak-9T: 178.5m
Mosquito Mk.VI: 179.3m
La-5FN: 181.5m
La-7(3x20mm): 182.7m
Yak-9U: 184.5m
C.202: 187.0m
Ki-61-I-Tei: 187.0m
Bf109F-4: 187.1m
*Spitfire Mk.XIV: 187.9m
P-40E: 189.3m
P-40B: 195.8m
La-7: 196.0m
F6F-5: 196.1m
*Spitfire Mk.XIV(50cal): 200.8m
F4U-1D: 201.5m
Bf109G-6: 204.9m
Bf109G-2: 205.0m
Bf110G-2: 205.1m
F4U-1: 206.2m
C.205: 207.5m
F4U-4: 207.5m
F4U-1C: 213.5m
Bf109G-6(30mm): 213.6m
P-51B: 213.7m
*Tempest Mk.V: 215.2m
Bf109G-10: 220.4m
P-47D-11: 222.6m
P-38G: 223.5m
P-51D: 224.2m
Bf109G-10(30mm): 225.8m
P-38L: 228.5m
P-38J: 229.9m
P-47D-25: 234.1m
P-47D-40: 236.4m
*Typhoon Mk.Ib: 232.0m
Me163B: 237.1m
Fw190A-5: 242.1m
Ta152H-1: 246.2m
Fw190A-8: 255.6m
Fw190D-9: 257.1m
Fw190F-8: 267.8m
Fw190A-8(30mm): 281.6m
Me262A: 378.7m





[b]List of planes in order of smallest Turn Radius with full of flaps engaged[/b]

Planes that cannot use full flaps, use figures for one notch flap setting

Planes that cannot use full flaps & one notch setting, use figures for normal flight setting

They are marked with  *



Type: Radius
--------------------------------------
A6M2: 104.6m
Hurricane Mk.I: 111.0m
A6M5: 115.3m
Spitfire Mk.I: 117.3m
Hurricane Mk.IIc: 123.8m
FM-2: 128.1m
[b]Ki-84-I-Ko[/b]: [b]133.2m[/b]
Spitfire Mk.IX: 134.3m
Spitfire Mk.V: 134.5m
Seafire Mk.II: 135.8m
F4F-4: 139.5m
Hurricane Mk.IId: 140.3m
Bf110C-4: 142.3m
N1K2-J: 143.0m
F4U-4: 144.7m
Spitfire Mk.IX(50cal): 146.4m
P-38G: 148.6m
F4U-1D: 148.7m
Bf110G-2: 149.5m
F4U-1: 150.9m
Bf109E-4: 151.1m
Spitfire Mk.XIV(50cal): 151.1m
Spitfire Mk.XIV: 152.4m
La-5FN 152.4m
La-7(3x20mm): 152.4m
La-7: 153.6m
F4U-1C: 156.6m
P-38J: 156.8m
Yak-9T: 156.8m
F6F-5: 159.5m
P-38L: 160.9m
C.202: 165.2m
P-40B: 167.4m
P-40E: 167.7m
Mosquito Mk.VI: 167.9m
Bf109F-4: 175.5m
Bf109G-6: 171.6m
Yak-9U: 174.4m
Bf109G-6(30mm): 175.5m
Ki-61-I-Tei: 177.1m
Bf109G-2: 179.0m
P-47D-11: 187.9m
P-51D: 189.4m
Bf109G-10: 192.0m
P-51B: 193.1m
C.205: 193.6m
P-47D-25: 196.4m
Bf109G-10(30mm): 201.5m
P-47D-40: 203.0m
*Tempest Mk.V: 215.2m
*Typhoon Mk.Ib: 232.0m
*Me163B: 237.1m
*Fw190A-5: 242.1m
*Ta152H-1: 246.2m
*Fw190A-8: 255.6m
*Fw190D-9: 257.1m
*Fw190F-8: 267.8m
*Fw190A-8(30mm): 281.6m
Me262A: 359.6m

 More info at the The Complete Aces High2 Fighter Turn Performance (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=155592&highlight=compendium) thread...

Title: Corner Speed for Ki-84?
Post by: Karash on September 07, 2005, 01:11:01 PM

Yup I have that great list printed already :)

I would really like to know the corner speed however.

Title: Corner Speed for Ki-84?
Post by: Gooss on September 08, 2005, 09:14:42 AM

I learned this from a Hitech post.  Launch.  Get up to speed.  Turn your aircraft to almost full blackout.  Keep turning.  The speed at which your stall buzzer is the loudest is your corner speed.


HONK!
Gooss

Title: Re: Corner Speed for Ki-84?
Post by: hammer on September 08, 2005, 11:59:32 AM

Quote

Originally posted by Karash
... is the data on climb and speed accurate at http://www.netaces.org?

The data on the java charts is from the charts on the HTC site. I have tested the P-51 and Spit9 recently and found them to be within 1mph up to about 25k. That speaks well for them still being fairly accurate. They are not completely accurate, though.

Above 26k, the P-51 WEP adds no extra speed. This is not what the chart shows. What other differences there are I can't tell you right now but, when winter comes around and there's nothing to do outside, I will do some more testing!

Title: Corner Speed for Ki-84?
Post by: Silat on September 08, 2005, 02:14:47 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Gooss
I learned this from a Hitech post.  Launch.  Get up to speed.  Turn your aircraft to almost full blackout.  Keep turning.  The speed at which your stall buzzer is the loudest is your corner speed.


HONK!
Gooss

Yeah but I cant see the speed indicator while Im blacked out:):):)

HONK

Title: Corner Speed for Ki-84?
Post by: Wilbus on September 09, 2005, 06:09:16 AM

Record it silat then watch film. Won't see blackouts on film and you will have the more accurate digital speed meter :)

Title: Corner Speed for Ki-84?
Post by: Gooss on September 09, 2005, 07:53:00 AM

Silat,

No need to worry about blackouts when you use the stall limiter.

HONK!
Gooss

Title: Corner Speed for Ki-84?
Post by: Simaril on September 10, 2005, 07:21:04 PM

I remember someone posting that another way to get stall speed at a given altitude is this:

Keep level flight at set altitude; gradually reduce speed, continuing to stay level with control inputs as needed. Note the speed at which you stall.

Multiply this by 1.6 and you have the corner speed.