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Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: ghi on September 07, 2005, 11:39:28 AM
Don't you think your goverment should accept the help, not cuz realy need it, but use this occasion to open positive dialog and shake hands with "enemy " ?!    Would this make  US safer than bilions of $ wasted in homeland security  ?
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: lasersailor184 on September 07, 2005, 12:00:33 PM
No.
Title: Re: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Sandman on September 07, 2005, 12:04:02 PM
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Originally posted by ghi
Would this make  US safer than bilions of $ wasted in homeland security  ?


We're safer?
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: boxboy28 on September 07, 2005, 12:11:35 PM
i think we should , but then again it opens the door for terrorist doctors and such to enter at will as aid givers.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Westy on September 07, 2005, 12:18:04 PM
Yeah. What boxboy said!

Let em in and it really would be "RED DAWN" come true!!
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Yeager on September 07, 2005, 12:26:39 PM
hey, its all good for bidness....

but cooba?.........I dunno know about cooba :rolleyes:
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Monk on September 07, 2005, 12:28:26 PM
Just cash please.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: ghi on September 07, 2005, 12:30:02 PM
.. i see the world like a   drifting wreak in front of mother nature; huricanes,earthquakes, world warming, maybe meteors ,... But the crew is fighting inbetwen them when they should get together  patching the holes
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Yeager on September 07, 2005, 12:31:58 PM
dank ghi

I feel a song coming on
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Monk on September 07, 2005, 12:35:16 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
dank ghi

I feel a song coming on
Kumbaya?
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: lasersailor184 on September 07, 2005, 12:36:09 PM
What part of NO don't you understand?
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Yeager on September 07, 2005, 12:38:22 PM
shill be comin round the mountian when she comes....

lalala

shill be comin round the mountian when she comes....

lalala

shill be comin round the mountian....
shill be comin round the mountian....
shill be comin round the mountian when she comes....

lalala
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Monk on September 07, 2005, 12:41:03 PM
You sure it's "Lalala"?
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: ghi on September 07, 2005, 12:53:59 PM
You know, that song" Must to be inlove" Roxete?? was 1 of my favoritte, but b4 i joined the game and learn some english i understud" Musturbing love",
 Soo ,i don't care if you make fun of my poor english, is the hard way to learn but eficient:)
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Monk on September 07, 2005, 12:56:50 PM
No one is making fun of your English.  I just don't think it's "Lalala"
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Yeager on September 07, 2005, 01:19:50 PM
na na na?

shill be comin round the mountin when she comes

na na na ??
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Nilsen on September 07, 2005, 01:41:12 PM
Accept the help.

I have decided to give cash to some sort of program in the near future when one is set up to give those that has lost their home a new one or jobs or anything. The imidate help is pretty much beeing taken care of, its the future for those left home and jobless that worries me.

Is my cash good enough or should I just skip it?
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Edbert on September 07, 2005, 01:52:41 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen

Is my cash good enough or should I just skip it?

Skip it, but thatnks for the offer. They've already approved $200,000,000,000.00 as the "first step" to rebuilding a city that is going to get flattened next week/month/year/decade when the next summer storm comes ashore. Your generous contribution will just be lost in the flood of tax dollars already enroute.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Nilsen on September 07, 2005, 01:55:24 PM
ok
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Yeager on September 07, 2005, 01:56:47 PM
Is my cash good enough or should I just skip it?
====
have you taken any americans and held them hostage lately?

have you based any of our enemies ballistic missle platforms in your country lately?

If you answer yes to either of the above questions then skip it, otherwise do what makes your soul happy :D
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 07, 2005, 01:57:52 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Accept the help.

I have decided to give cash to some sort of program in the near future when one is set up to give those that has lost their home a new one or jobs or anything. The imidate help is pretty much beeing taken care of, its the future for those left home and jobless that worries me.

Is my cash good enough or should I just skip it?



Skip the cash, send some of those spiffy hats!

arrgh!
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: ghi on September 07, 2005, 02:07:21 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
Is my cash good enough or should I just skip it?
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have you taken any americans and held them hostage lately?

have you based any of our enemies ballistic missle platforms in your country lately?

If you answer yes to either of the above questions then skip it, otherwise do what makes your soul happy :D

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lately means 30 -40 years ago
 
have Russia based missiles in Cuba, ? do you accept their help?
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: rabbidrabbit on September 07, 2005, 02:35:16 PM
Only if its in the form of vodka
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Yeager on September 07, 2005, 02:55:06 PM
hey....in the grand scale if time within the universe, 50 years ago just happened ;)
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Monk on September 08, 2005, 11:33:23 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
na na na?

shill be comin round the mountin when she comes

na na na ??
na na na na?  maybe.  hmmm, maybe not.  na na na, lalalala - geez, now I'm not so sure.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Edbert on September 08, 2005, 11:54:07 AM
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Originally posted by Monk
na na na na?  maybe.  hmmm, maybe not.  na na na, lalalala - geez, now I'm not so sure.

I always thought it was da da da, but i can't sing.
Title: Re: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Jackal1 on September 08, 2005, 12:02:55 PM
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Originally posted by ghi
Don't you think your goverment should accept the help, not cuz realy need it, but use this occasion to open positive dialog and shake hands with "enemy " ?!    Would this make  US safer than bilions of $ wasted in homeland security  ?


 We could all just meet and sit in a circle in a big field, hold hands and sing peace songs. Oh the healing. Give peace a chance.
  Ride on the peace train.......oooH awww ooohh awww

  Incense and peppermints................


But to answer your question...screw Fidel and Iran.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Westy on September 08, 2005, 12:05:30 PM
you forgot free love!  (teH sexx)
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Jackal1 on September 08, 2005, 12:11:20 PM
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Originally posted by Westy
you forgot free love!  (teH sexx)


  The visual image of Fidel naked with a stogie in his mouth is something Viagra can`t scratch. :)
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Boroda on September 08, 2005, 12:47:18 PM
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
Only if its in the form of vodka


I thought that US government accepted blankets, tents, generators, totally 40 tons of other goods from Russia, 2xIL-76.

I only wonder why they didn't accept assistance from Emercom rescue teams. Maybe because they are still afraid?... Or because they think that Emercom professionals will stay in US as illegal immigrants? What a nonsence...

It's a shame they sent Emercom ILs, not VVS. Could be great to see a plane with Red Stars unloading aid to poor Americans who can't afford blankets and tents.

There are too many things that I fail to understand :(
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Jackal1 on September 08, 2005, 12:53:11 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda

It's a shame they sent Emercom ILs, not VVS. Could be great to see a plane with Red Stars unloading aid to poor Americans who can't afford blankets and tents.
 


  It`s not the fact that they are "poor Americans who can't afford blankets and tents.". It is the fact that it is a disaster area. Get it?

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There are too many things that I fail to understand :(


Do tell. :)
Title: Re: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: SaburoS on September 08, 2005, 12:57:29 PM
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Originally posted by ghi
Don't you think your goverment should accept the help, not cuz realy need it, but use this occasion to open positive dialog and shake hands with "enemy " ?!    Would this make  US safer than bilions of $ wasted in homeland security  ?

Of coarse we should. It will show some of us Americans that they are "helpful, compassionate" people too.
We won't though. Just think of the wasted tax dollars of our propaganda machine! By God, THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
Title: Re: Re: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Jackal1 on September 08, 2005, 01:08:45 PM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
It will show some of us Americans that they are "helpful, compassionate" people too.
 


Mojave battleships on sale now! Hurry while supplies last! :D
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: GreenCloud on September 08, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
no

no thanks...take care of your own..we got it handled here


Iran,,,dont you have an electricity problem..you need spend money on how you can make a nuke power plant..cause you are running out of oil..


Cuba?....how can they afford to send money..didnt they juts mandate the state will give each house hold a rice cooker!!! wow..rich folks there...how about you take care of your own poor


Russia?....How about this...SPEND SOME of your cash...cleaining up your rusting nuke and diesel subs..I seen your ports..CLEAN YORU CRAP UP...we send millions of dollars to help you clean up..DO IT YOURSELF



1) STOP all Illegal imagrant money
2) Open Closed military bases fro homless
3) STOP all African AIDS money

there we juts brought in a billion or so $
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Boroda on September 08, 2005, 01:27:17 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
It`s not the fact that they are "poor Americans who can't afford blankets and tents.". It is the fact that it is a disaster area. Get it?


I get it. Some people don't, or why did that two IL-76 stay loaded in Ramenskoe airfield for 10 days?

In plain words: It seems to me that accepting blankets and tents is just an act of  "being polite", while for some reasons US refused to accept professional help.

BTW, Russian epidemiological service has some experience too, I wonder why assistance in this field wasn't offered. Or it was, but it's too complicated for media to comprehend?
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Boroda on September 08, 2005, 01:38:22 PM
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Originally posted by GreenCloud
Russia?....How about this...SPEND SOME of your cash...cleaining up your rusting nuke and diesel subs..I seen your ports..CLEAN YORU CRAP UP...we send millions of dollars to help you clean up..DO IT YOURSELF


Millions of dollars?! LOL!!! :lol If there were any real money sent - the only condition was to dispose of newest and modern subs, not the rusty crap from the 1950s. Sorry, I don't believe in American charity, I have some reasons.

What makes me wonder is why US asks for tents and blankets, as if you don't have enough of them in Army stock.

Just told this to a co-worker, he started to describe warehouses of a an internal troops division where he served in 1990-92... They still had stuff made in XIX century, like showels and other hard stuff, they had enough tents for three such divisions, blankets and sleeping bags too, etc.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Nilsen on September 08, 2005, 01:42:57 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Millions of dollars?! LOL!!! :lol If there were any real money sent - the only condition was to dispose of newest and modern subs, not the rusty crap from the 1950s. Sorry, I don't believe in American charity, I have some reasons.

What makes me wonder is why US asks for tents and blankets, as if you don't have enough of them in Army stock.

Just told this to a co-worker, he started to describe warehouses of a an internal troops division where he served in 1990-92... They still had stuff made in XIX century, like showels and other hard stuff, they had enough tents for three such divisions, blankets and sleeping bags too, etc.


Im sorry Boroda, but for the first time i have seen you are dead wrong. The money we send go directly to scrapping the oldest or those in the worst conditon first. Living so near to the "nukular das boots" perhaps gives us a different perspectiv than the USA'ers tho.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: lazs2 on September 08, 2005, 02:13:53 PM
we have plenty of blankets and tents here... if we need more we will buy em.

lazs
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Jackal1 on September 08, 2005, 05:20:56 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
I get it. Some people don't, or why did that two IL-76 stay loaded in Ramenskoe airfield for 10 days?

In plain words: It seems to me that accepting blankets and tents is just an act of  "being polite", while for some reasons US refused to accept professional help.

BTW, Russian epidemiological service has some experience too, I wonder why assistance in this field wasn't offered. Or it was, but it's too complicated for media to comprehend?


  Buy some grain. Make some bread or something usefull like that. Nothing from Russia comes without an expected price tag.
We`ll struggle by somway. :)
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Suave on September 09, 2005, 12:57:44 AM
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TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran offered to send the United States 20 million barrels of crude oil in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina if Washington waived trade sanctions.


Is this the "help" you speak of?
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Edbert on September 09, 2005, 07:10:58 AM
I heard Kuwait was going to send us $450M worth of crude for free in order to ease shortages from Gulf (ours not theirs) production. 450 Million dollars seems like a low price for them to pay to have their country back to me.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Nilsen on September 09, 2005, 07:16:12 AM
Yes Edbert.. you should write to Kuwait and complain that your country only gets 450.000.000,- $ worth. :D

You serious?
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: lazs2 on September 09, 2005, 08:12:11 AM
I think ed has a point.   People died to get their country free from a madman.   They would have nothing if we didn't free them.

I don't expect anything from anyone but...

lazs
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Boroda on September 09, 2005, 08:13:29 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Im sorry Boroda, but for the first time i have seen you are dead wrong. The money we send go directly to scrapping the oldest or those in the worst conditon first. Living so near to the "nukular das boots" perhaps gives us a different perspectiv than the USA'ers tho.


I am aware about Norvegian help. Norway also supports Arctic research institutes and scientific organisations. You really help, not talk about it. !

I am talking about American "assistance". They once said they want to pay for scrapping nuclear subs, and now they keep boasting as if I only live because they paid me money.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Edbert on September 09, 2005, 08:21:05 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Yes Edbert.. you should write to Kuwait and complain that your country only gets 450.000.000,- $ worth. :D

You serious?


A little bit, yes. I was not really complaining though, sorry if it came accross that way. But the only reason there IS a Kuwait today was because of GWI (and I know that was not  purely US action).

In a country like Kuwait we are not talking about tax dollars, they are royalty (literally), and rolling in cash (literally), that they have only becuase we gave them thier kingdom back (literally). When it was time for them to defend their borders they folded like a cheap napkin.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Habu on September 09, 2005, 08:47:39 AM
If I were Bush I would let call Cuba's bluff and accept every one of those doctors.

I would bring them the the US and place them with the hurricane relief agencies and let them help. And after the mess is cleared up I would tour them around the US and offer them instant citizenship.

After all where else can you get 1500 trained docters willing to to relief work for free?

What a great bonus that would be.

Of course then next time a hurrican hits Cuba all hell would break loose but that is Castro's problem.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Boroda on September 09, 2005, 08:54:16 AM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Buy some grain. Make some bread or something usefull like that. Nothing from Russia comes without an expected price tag.
We`ll struggle by somway. :)


Ha, I thought the same thing about American "assistance". All the money we got from the US went on destruction of our ecomonics and defence.

BTW, Russian Emercom never, never takes any money for assistance or materials. Maybe it's hard for you to understand, but it's the way we live here. And they never think like "We were at war with Turkey for 200 years, and they deployed American ballistic missiles aimed at us, so we'll not help them after the earthquake". :rolleyes:
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Edbert on September 09, 2005, 08:59:55 AM
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Originally posted by Habu
Free Doctors (paraphrased) :D

I work in the industry, you would not BELEIVE the red tape required for an MD to practise in the USA. It is simply called "credentialing" but my employer has an entire department set up where folks work full time just to get the RNs CRNAs and MDs eligible to work at a hospital. We had one applicant who was here legally from Mexico who had been a practising MD there for over 20 years, he is not able to work in our hospitals as anything more than an RN. I'd expect a Cuban MD to qualify for janitor with this system.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Torque on September 09, 2005, 10:37:52 AM
shrewd, would be to say 'yes' and accomplish something the cia has failed to do on numerous occasions, taking fidel out with a massive coronary.
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: Jackal1 on September 09, 2005, 12:23:26 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Ha, I thought the same thing about American "assistance". All the money we got from the US went on destruction of our ecomonics and defence.
 


   Gosh I`m so terribly sorry.
Let me break out the ole violin and play a quick session of My Heart Bleeds For You.
  I mean what were we thinking sending all that monetary support and grain to feed the people of mother Russia when at the time they couldn`t pour pee out of a boot with directions wrote on the bottom in big block letters?
  How dare we.

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All the money we got from the US went on destruction of our ecomonics and defence.


  Yea, there`s always some good that comes out of every situation. :)
Title: Iran, Cuba offer help
Post by: lazs2 on September 09, 2005, 02:14:38 PM
That's pretty good... Soviet russia had no part in it's own inevitable economic colapse?

lazs