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Title: Lets spend more money
Post by: Krusher on September 08, 2005, 11:21:37 AM
Louisiana has received more money for Corps civil works projects than any other state, $1.9 billion; California came in second with $1.4 billion

How much do you suppose they will waste after the flood?



Link (http://www.startribune.com/stories/125/5602732.html)

The Industrial Canal lock is one of the agency's most controversial projects, sued by residents of a New Orleans low-income black neighborhood and cited by an alliance of environmentalists and taxpayer advocates as the fifth-worst current Corps boondoggle. In 1998, the Corps justified its plan to build a new lock -- rather than fix the old lock for a tiny fraction of the cost -- by predicting huge increases in barge traffic.

In fact, barge traffic on the canal had been plummeting since 1994, but the Corps left that data out of its study. And barges have continued to avoid the canal since the study was finished, even though they are visiting the port in increased numbers.

Pam Dashiell, president of the Holy Cross Neighborhood Association, remembers holding a protest against the lock four years ago -- right where the levee broke last week. Now she's holed up with her family in a St. Louis hotel, and her neighborhood is underwater. "Our politicians never cared half as much about protecting us as they cared about pork," she said.
Title: Lets spend more money
Post by: Sandman on September 08, 2005, 11:30:16 AM
Given a choice, I'd rather spend $200 Billion in Louisiana before I spent $1.9B in Iraq.
Title: Lets spend more money
Post by: Westy on September 08, 2005, 11:37:17 AM
lol Sandman.  Bullseye :)
Title: Lets spend more money
Post by: Mickey1992 on September 08, 2005, 12:28:28 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Given a choice, I'd rather spend $200 Billion in Louisiana before I spent $1.9B in Iraq.


You mean $1.9T don't you?
Title: Lets spend more money
Post by: Eagler on September 08, 2005, 01:19:48 PM
so the canals had locks?

why were they not closed to limit the flooding to a trickle when their banks broke open?

if they did not have closable locks, why not?
Title: Lets spend more money
Post by: JimBear on September 08, 2005, 01:27:50 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Given a choice, I'd rather spend $200 Billion in Louisiana before I spent $1.9B in Iraq.


level NO, blow the levees and save the country and the people alot of time. trouble and money.
Title: Lets spend more money
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 08, 2005, 01:32:37 PM
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Originally posted by JimBear
level NO, blow the levees and save the country and the people alot of time. trouble and money.


Something tells me that the port of NO is important to the national economy...  a river flows thru it if I remember correctly.
Title: Lets spend more money
Post by: Toad on September 08, 2005, 04:54:23 PM
The river will still flow but I see no reason for people to live below its water level.

There is land above sea level in Southern Louisiana.

I'm no structural engineer but I suspect that soaking every building foundation in N.O. in about 6 feet of water for a couple of weeks is not a good thing for the building.

I'm no mold expert either but I suspect that inside the walls of all of those soaking buildings there will be a mold/bacteria problem when they finally get the water level down. As I recall, N.O. is somewhat of a hot/humid environment and I think that fits the description of an ideal environment for mold/mycotoxins.

But since the Navy left Vieques, perhaps just knocking a few holes in the levees and declaring the area inside the old levees as a new Navy bombing range would be cost effective........