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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: karmic on September 09, 2005, 02:50:25 AM
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was there such a thing as recon planes with radar on them in wwii? could make a perk plane who's primary function is to get high alt and fly over an area with its radar revealing enemy units in radar range.
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NO
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Airborne radar was not used in that way in WWII. There was no WWII equivilent of an AWAC aircraft. Airborne radar in WWII was used for three purposes. 1) To hunt enemy aircraft in conditions that made visual hunting impractical, mostly at night. 2) To detect enemy aircraft coming into attack position, though in some cases, most notably Monica on Lancs and Halibags, this tail warning radar was actually homed in on my the Germans. 3) Air to surface radar to help bomb aimers and navigators with their jobs in conditions when the ground is not visible. It may also have been used to find ships from the air, I do not know about that one way or another.
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Radar was used to find u-boats and to find enemy ships. It was also used to help the firecontroll on battleships/cruisers, for range finding and aim calculations.
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Yes, I knew about the fire control on ships, but that isn't aircraft carried radar so it doesn't pertain. I am not surprised at all about the radar being used to find ships, as that was how I personally guessed. I didn't know though so I wasn't going to make a claim on it.
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pby catalina had on board radar and would track down planes out of countries radar zones..they had killer radar for its day..the pby black cat was well known for hunting and shooting down zero's and ships at night...they would fan out and make there own radar zones..they helped stop the invasion of alaska...plus the plane was produced in ww2 by allmost every allied country including russia..and had good long range..all thou slow,,i guess they were very tuff..i wish they were in aces high..
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Hmmm thought the P-61 had an early radar system onboard. But I could be mistaken.
Bronk
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I wanna fly 30k and do recon!!!
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What's stopping you now, ya goofball ;)
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I don't have a radar plane:(
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Come on Dud, every single plane we have now is a "radar"
plane:aok
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Quoting Al, "I dont think so, Tim."
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Originally posted by Rino
Come on Dud, every single plane we have now is a "radar"
plane:aok
But it's not "the" radar plane. I want one thats soul purpose is to do radar sweeps.
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Quoting Al, "I dont think so, Tim."
Ok Meatwad, explain to me how you can see a dot on radar
that represents a bird out of icon range behind and under your
tail then? Cousin Cleo's magic crystal ball? :D
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Cleo is a crook!
I use the combination of my magic 8 ball and the voices I routinely hear in my head.
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didnt successfully arrive till Nov of 45, in the form of stripped b29 with a plexi dome on top, that made it necessary to bank the a/c to send and recieve the transmissions properly,was not used due to the near proximity it required at lower attainable alts to get proper alignment of the transmissions and the advent of jets making it highly susceptible to eny a/c.
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Originally posted by AmRaaM
didnt successfully arrive till Nov of 45, in the form of stripped b29...
B29!#$$!#! N0oKi3@@@@@@@@@@@!!
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Originally posted by Bronk
Hmmm thought the P-61 had an early radar system onboard. But I could be mistaken.
Bronk
Many WWII aircraft had onboard radar, but it didin't work the way you guys are talking about. It was not an AWACS type of deal.
The British and Germans used radar extensively due to their night time conflicts and there are many books you can read about their efforts. In many ways it is more interesting than the daylight campaign due to the cat and mouse use of technology and trying to gain a leg up on the enemy.
For example, here is a simplified sequence:
British develop 'Monica' tail warning radar to detect enemy aircraft if then get within, IIRC, a couple of miles astern.
Germans learn to home in on 'Monica' emmisions from way outside 'Monica's' detection range instead of searching for RAF bombers semi-blindly.
British learn that the Germans are homing in on 'Monica', changing tactics so that night-fighter Mossies use 'Monica' to pull the German night-fighters right to them, then when 'Monica' detects a German nightfigher the Mossie crew'd switch off 'Monica' and pull around behind the German to pick them up on the A.I. radar in the Mossie's nose. The hunter becomes the hunted.
That is only one small example of the ploys both sides were coming up with a using.