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Title: Politics
Post by: midnight Target on September 09, 2005, 10:29:13 AM
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Election Day draws nigh, the prize the building you see behind me, Castle Congress. But what side shall prevail in this epic electoral tilt? Who shall control the future of Fortress America? Will we be, as the Republicans desire, a nation of wealthy heavily-armed white men, befouling the air and water in a ceaseless quest for profits, beholden to no laws but those of our lord and savior Jesus Christ? Or shall we instead embrace the Democrats' vision of a namby-pamby quasi-Socialist Republic with an all-homosexual army flamboyantly defending a citizenry suckling at the foul teat of government welfare? The choice is yours, fair maiden America, for the name of this feudal system is Democracy.


About sums it up.

:cool:
Title: Politics
Post by: Edbert on September 09, 2005, 10:36:55 AM
Wow, suprisingly I am in agreement with MT, the end must be close!

Title: Re: Politics
Post by: Gunslinger on September 09, 2005, 10:37:18 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
About sums it up.

:cool:


yup I'd say so.  Especially the last part, not so much the first.  ;)
Title: Politics
Post by: lasersailor184 on September 09, 2005, 11:32:37 AM
Funny.  Pretty much all republicans I know aren't wealthy at all.


Though everything said about the liberals is true.

Is that irony?  I'm not sure.
Title: Politics
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on September 09, 2005, 11:36:27 AM
Democrats, not liberals. No, they are not the same thing. There are liberal Republicans.
-SW
Title: Politics
Post by: Yeager on September 09, 2005, 11:36:32 AM
Dont tread on me!
Title: Politics
Post by: Gunthr on September 09, 2005, 11:43:17 AM
I can't wait until we evolve mental telepathy.  That will pretty much be the end of all politicians.
Title: Politics
Post by: ChickenHawk on September 09, 2005, 12:14:15 PM
A political statement I can agree with.

I think a strong third party would force the left and right to be a little more moderate.  We need another party in the mix.
Title: Politics
Post by: Toad on September 09, 2005, 12:16:24 PM
If those are the choices, and it's sad that those statements may represent something close to the truth, there is still only one choice.
Title: Politics
Post by: Yeager on September 09, 2005, 12:33:00 PM
How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man?
Yes, 'n' how many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand?
Yes, 'n' how many times must the cannon balls fly
Before they're forever banned?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

How many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
Yes, 'n' how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, 'n' how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.

How many years can a mountain exist
Before it's washed to the sea?
Yes, 'n' how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, 'n' how many times can a man turn his head,
Pretending he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
Title: Politics
Post by: Edbert on September 09, 2005, 12:34:04 PM
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Originally posted by Toad
If those are the choices, and it's sad that those statements may represent something close to the truth, there is still only one choice.


Hmmmm...I'm a relatively wealthy white guy, who has made a profit in the past, who might or might not own a firearm or two, and I beleive in Jesus...I'M TORN!
Title: Politics
Post by: lazs2 on September 09, 2005, 02:11:13 PM
what was that first choice again?   Oh yeah... wealthy, heavily armed white guys....

I'll take that one... who wouldn't?

lazs
Title: Politics
Post by: Yeager on September 09, 2005, 03:13:36 PM
:rofl
Title: Politics
Post by: Eagler on September 09, 2005, 03:19:00 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
what was that first choice again?   Oh yeah... wealthy, heavily armed white guys....

I'll take that one... who wouldn't?

lazs


sadly almost 50% of the voting population in 04  ...

now that Bush hates black ppl, even more :)
Title: Politics
Post by: Xargos on September 09, 2005, 05:05:31 PM
What about us poor Southeren white heterosexual males with missing teeth, beer bellies, who like shooting guns, racing cars and blowing up treestumps with homemade C-4?
Title: Politics
Post by: nirvana on September 09, 2005, 05:23:36 PM
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Originally posted by ChickenHawk
I think a strong third party would force the left and right to be a little more moderate.  We need another party in the mix.



Vote for Jello Biafra in 2008!

Jello's '04 platform. (http://www.angelfire.com/punk/jello2000/platform.html)

Remember, vote for the GREEN  wedge in '08!!
Title: Politics
Post by: Ripsnort on September 09, 2005, 07:13:53 PM
I think SNL newsroom was 10 times better than the Daily show.
Title: Politics
Post by: lazs2 on September 09, 2005, 07:19:18 PM
xargos... run one and I will vote for him.

nirvana.... your guys math don't add up and...

I notice that he only wants to get rid of the big government guys he doesn't like... For most of us the EPA is the biggest threat to our freedom... this guy wants to make em world police..

He isn't against government controling our lives... he just wants it to be a huge government that only controls other people and things he doesn't care about.  

In short... punish everyone that he doesn't like and tax anything over an amount he thinks he will never make anyway and then give it all away to people who contribute nothing so that they can continue to contribute nothing..  

lazs
Title: Politics
Post by: Shuckins on September 09, 2005, 07:49:06 PM
Since many of the Dems I have known over the years seem to see themselves as modern-day Robin Hoods, I thought I'd write them a little theme song for the 2008 elections:

(with apologies...)




(To be Sung as a Duet)



"I'm Robin Hood from yonder wood, with my little bow and arrow!
I miss with ease, three out of threes, with my little bow and arrow!"


"I'm Little John, I've never gone on the road that's straight and narrow!

I get my pound, of what's around, with my little bow and arrow!"


"Two busy little men are we, giving your gold away!"


"We take from the wicked..."


"...and give to the good..."


 and go happily on our way!"

"When days are rough, we ain't so tough, with our little bow and arrow!

Heigh-ho, heigh-ho, we scare no foes, with our little bow and arrow!"
Title: Politics
Post by: Xargos on September 09, 2005, 08:16:53 PM
Lazs, here is a link to the Libertarian Party of California. http://www.ca.lp.org/

I don't see any right now that have much charisma, but I very much beleive in what they stand for.
Title: Politics
Post by: lazs2 on September 10, 2005, 09:29:07 AM
have you read Molon Labe?   The libertarians are too wishy washy on the second amendment for me but I would vote for any viable libertarian candidate... problem is... in close races I vote republican to keep the democrat out...  I can't even get rid of the democrats much less get a libertarian in...

lazs
Title: Politics
Post by: Gunslinger on September 10, 2005, 01:59:13 PM
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Originally posted by lazs2
have you read Molon Labe?   The libertarians are too wishy washy on the second amendment for me but I would vote for any viable libertarian candidate... problem is... in close races I vote republican to keep the democrat out...  I can't even get rid of the democrats much less get a libertarian in...

lazs


I don't know laz, this is their "official" stance:

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15. THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
Because the right to life, liberty, and property implies a right of defense of self and property, and a right to acquire and maintain the tools to exercise such self defense, and because an armed citizenry is the final defense against government tyranny, we support:

A. The repeal of laws regulating the ownership and bearing of arms, including automatic or so-called assault weapons.

B. The elimination of registration and all other government records pertaining to ownership of arms.

C. The repeal of laws requiring permission from any government agency for any purpose relating to arms and ammunition.

D. The right of airlines and other common carriers to decide their own weapons policies.

Further, we oppose extension of liability to the manufacturers or vendors of arms for crimes committed by the users of such arms.


Title: Politics
Post by: Thrawn on September 10, 2005, 02:25:43 PM
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Originally posted by Xargos
Lazs, here is a link to the Libertarian Party of California. http://www.ca.lp.org/

I don't see any right now that have much charisma, but I very much beleive in what they stand for.



Amazing how MT's quote immediately marginalizes them, and with them personal freedom and responsibility...in exchange for corporate and social welfare.
Title: Politics
Post by: Edbert on September 11, 2005, 08:59:00 AM
I've been a registered Libertarian since 1989, I vote L on every ballot I can unless it is a close presidential race and even then (as in 2000/2004) when it is not close in my electoral college state.

I agree they have a snowball's chance in large elections because the two-party system and their willing accomplices in the media have rigged they system. But a vote  given to someone you beleive in is never wasted in my book, the only wasted votes are the ones not cast.
Title: Politics
Post by: lazs2 on September 11, 2005, 09:07:33 AM
thrawn... the quote instantantly marginalizes both parties because it is dead on.

The offical liberatian policies on firearms is great but in practice they own less firearms (about 50% of em) than the rest of America...

Libertarians are mostly a back east group married to the states they live in even tho those states are all lost causes.

I would love to see a state that believed in freedom and the constitution succeed from the union.  I would move there.   The only possible ones tho would be western or deep south.

lazs
Title: Politics
Post by: Edbert on September 11, 2005, 09:39:57 AM
Secession is the equivalent of a declaration of war. Only Texas was given permission to do that without question. But most argue thet we lost that right in 1865 when we signed an unconditional surrender.
Title: Politics
Post by: lazs2 on September 11, 2005, 10:02:46 AM
absolute and declared Secession is not really necessary.   simply controling a state and not obeying federal laws that are unconstitional would be good enough.

lazs
Title: Politics
Post by: AWkrull on September 11, 2005, 02:11:31 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
Dont tread on me!



Can I just pee on you instead? j/k:D