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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gunslinger on September 10, 2005, 11:39:23 AM
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First off, no one was hurt. My neighber busted his nose on his glasses or something and his wife (who was driving) has a sore neck. They had their new born and 6 year old in the car with them, the baby didn't even wake up the older boy was startled but ok. She was taking them to a soccor game and said "damn I wish I had my sun-glasses" then BAM!
I was sound asleep and heard a loud bang, looked out the window and shouted an explitive.
Anyhow I think my jeep is totaled. The tub itself buckled all the way up to the drivers side door. :(
I didn't post the resting pics but the Jeep was pushed a good 10 feet up onto my curb. :(
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/210_1126369952_untitled-11.jpg)
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/210_1126369925_untitled-9.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/210_1126369900_untitled-8.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/210_1126369870_untitled-7.jpg)
I think it did pretty well compared to the exterra. She was only going maybe 15 MPH. These are our neighbors and good people. As luck would have it we both have the same insurance company. I hope it's not totaled cause I really can't afford another car payment right now and the Jeep's been paid off for well over a year now. :( :(
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What pisses me off the MOST is my Jeep has a FULL tank of gas in it. $50 worth. My neighbor and I are currently looking for a gas syphen because it's the same deal on his end.
Anyone know how to short out the fuel pump and off load it the easy way?
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see rule # 4
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Good thing that noone was hurt.
Perhaps the xterra did what it was supposed to do and buckled to absorb energy instead of putting the E into the people.
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Oh man!:( Sorry to hear that Gun. Glad everyone was safe!
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Originally posted by Furball
see rule # 4
well obviously i'm not "driving" anything right now, but thanks for the salt in the wound furby......I appreciat it. :p
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
well obviously i'm not "driving" anything right now, but thanks for the salt in the wound furby......I appreciat it. :p
you know me.. anytime ;) :D
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Oh man!:( Sorry to hear that Gun. Glad everyone was safe!
yup their baby is only 2 weeks old and her husband didn't have his seat belt on yet. He broke his nose on the dash. It could have been alot worse.
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See Rule #4
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So the fuel pump is in the gas tank itself. All the lines going to the gas tank are crimped from the impact. The area needed for space to get to said fuel lines is now compacted. Unless I can figure how to hook a tube up and use the pump to get the gas out I'm out $50. :(
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drill a hole in the bottom of the fuel tank.... :D
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just suck on the end of the tube with your mouth
no, furballs idea is better
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Chris,
Locate your fuel pump relay, then disconnect it. If your engine still runs (check your battery first to make sure it isn't ruptured, leaking, or shorted out), start it until it dies. Crank it over a few more times to remove all pressure from the line. Disconnect the battery. Should now be safe to disconnect a fuel line.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Chris,
Locate your fuel pump relay, then disconnect it. If your engine still runs (check your battery first to make sure it isn't ruptured, leaking, or shorted out), start it until it dies. Crank it over a few more times to remove all pressure from the line. Disconnect the battery. Should now be safe to disconnect a fuel line.
The Jeep is fuel injected and has a depresurization valve on the fuel rail itself
But,
Then reinstall the relay and pump the gas pedal while the ignition is on?
Or just turn the key over and the fuel pump should spin up the fuel trying to re-pressurize the line?
I've never had to do anything like this.
OH BTW, I had another buddy look at it and after a closer inspection the frame itself is buckled. :( :( :(
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Anyone know how to turn the fuel pump without turning the starter?
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Just turn your key all the way to the notch before it actually engages the starter. Obviously with fuel pump relay connected.
Careful though as it will have a lot of pressure potential and can spray all over the place.
Why not follow the above procedure and let gravity do its work?
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Just turn your key all the way to the notch before it actually engages the starter. Obviously with fuel pump relay connected.
Careful though as it will have a lot of pressure potential and can spray all over the place.
Why not follow the above procedure and let gravity do its work?
I can't get a syphon into the tank. I can depreasureize the line easily by the fuel rail and hook a hose off the line going into the filter but can't figure how to keep the pump running without the starter.
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Need to check relay/fuse/circuit breaker for the fuel pump (don't know which yours has).
The fuel pump circuit is always "on" when the ignition key is on the last notch before you turn it further to engage the starter.
Grab your multimeter and check for voltage to the fuel pump.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Need to check relay/fuse/circuit breaker for the fuel pump (don't know which yours has).
The fuel pump circuit is always "on" when the ignition key is on the last notch before you turn it further to engage the starter.
Grab your multimeter and check for voltage to the fuel pump.
Ahhhh. thanks chuck. I packed up my tools for today. My poor jeep isn't getting towed till monday at best.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Good thing that noone was hurt.
Perhaps the xterra did what it was supposed to do and buckled to absorb energy instead of putting the E into the people.
Bingo... you can see the crumple zones from underneath.
Best of luck with the insurance/repair/potential new jeep.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
As luck would have it we both have the same insurance company.
Uh, thats not lucky, thats a recipe for a screwin. Beware.
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Originally posted by Lizard3
Uh, thats not lucky, thats a recipe for a screwin. Beware.
Guess it depends on the insurance company.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Guess it depends on the insurance company.
FWIW we both have geico. I know what my jeep is worth. I know the frame is bent. If anything I will buy it back and part it out and make a pretty penny. The engine itself only has 8000 miles on it.
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They probably will give you a check for Blue Book value and write it off as a total loss. They'll probably let you keep the Jeep (it'll get a Salvaged title).
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Poor Jeep. Being an owner of one, this brings a tear to my eye. :mad:
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Poor Jeep. Being an owner of one, this brings a tear to my eye. :mad:
yup I got a little emotional yesturday afternoon when I was looking online for a replacement.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Poor Jeep. Being an owner of one, this brings a tear to my eye.
Originally posted by Gunslinger
yup I got a little emotional yesturday afternoon when I was looking online for a replacement.
:huh
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Originally posted by Furball
see rule # 4
:rofl
Snowball, It's a jeep thing. You wouldn't understand. ;)
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Snowball, It's a jeep thing. You wouldn't understand. ;)
pooslinger!!!!!! i found you the perfect jeep!!!!
(http://www.americantrailswest.com/images/pink_jeep.jpg)
;) :D
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Originally posted by Furball
pooslinger!!!!!! i found you the perfect jeep!!!!
(http://www.americantrailswest.com/images/pink_jeep.jpg)
;) :D
LOL you're an arse.
maybe I'll wait till these come out:
(http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i1036/103696_00mg.jpg)
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
(http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i1036/103696_00mg.jpg)
The steering system on it is an amazing idea. I just can't see the reasoning for two engines.
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That thing looks wierd.
Though I always did want a biggie sized Rubicon. I love my jeep, but hauling around 3 other people is always tight.
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Originally posted by Sandman
The steering system on it is an amazing idea. I just can't see the reasoning for two engines.
Twice the fuel baby !
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"Perhaps the xterra did what it was supposed to do and buckled to absorb energy instead of putting the E into the people."
At 15 MPH? What a piece of junk! A 15 MPH impact is barely even a jolt. If it wasn't poorly designed and if they had real bumpers all that would have happened is the smaller Jeep would have been pushed and the owners wouldn't be looking at completely wrecked vehicles..maybe some bent up bumpers and sheet metal damage at worst. That damage on the Xterra looks considerably worse than my Cadillac after I rammed another car at 45 MPH--three times the speed!
I've seen both types of those vehicles in higher speed crashes before. They simply don't hold up well.
J_A_B
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Today's vehicles are not designed to survive a crash. They're designed to channel energy around the occupants.
A 15 MPH crash with no brakes is still pretty hard. Hell, a delta-V of 25 will put you in the hospital and a delta-v of 35 will probably kill you.
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yea what some of you don't realize is she didn't see the jeep because of the sun. She wasn't slowing down at all she was accelorating. The fact that their 2 week old son in his car seat didn't even wake up is a testiment to the safety of the vehicle. Screw the fact that it's totaled no one in the car (especially the kids) was hurt.
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Originally posted by J_A_B
"Perhaps the xterra did what it was supposed to do and buckled to absorb energy instead of putting the E into the people."
At 15 MPH? What a piece of junk! A 15 MPH impact is barely even a jolt. If it wasn't poorly designed and if they had real bumpers all that would have happened is the smaller Jeep would have been pushed and the owners wouldn't be looking at completely wrecked vehicles..maybe some bent up bumpers and sheet metal damage at worst.
My dad had a 72 TBird parked in our driveway when one night a drunken 1st grade teacher in her suzuki samurai came tearing around a left hand corner across our front yard in into the back of the tbird. Her samurai then went went almost into the house across the street, then went about 200 yards down to the park in the middle of this subdivision before dying/running out of momentum
My dads tbird rear end was pushed about a foot to the side and had a small dent near the taillights. The samurai was totalled.
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Sucks Guns.
Really sucks that it was people you know. :(
You might be able to get a great deal on a 2005 4 banger wragler, since the 06 models are now coming in.
Was at a dealer today and they were talking about how jeeps are not selling cause of gas prices soo you can prolly get them to come down lots.
You going to do another jeep for sure?
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Sucks Guns.
Really sucks that it was people you know. :(
You might be able to get a great deal on a 2005 4 banger wragler, since the 06 models are now coming in.
Was at a dealer today and they were talking about how jeeps are not selling cause of gas prices soo you can prolly get them to come down lots.
You going to do another jeep for sure?
yes but I will NOT get a 4 banger....they just don't have the hill power.
The problem is with the new mustang, the move, and the new house coming up I cannot afford another car payment.
I saw a nice 95 wrangler with all the fixens today for $5200 but it was a 4cyl and I will NOT get one. I'm also considering a cherokee. The jeep gets towed tomorrow so I will find out what the adjuster says then.
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I have seen some 97s around that are down under 8, but with the I6.
I agree about the 4 banger not being great, but my 2000 was ok, but wouldnt do more then 65 with 31s on it if you used 5th.
Good luck Guns, it sucks when crap like this happens
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
LOL you're an arse.
maybe I'll wait till these come out:
(http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i1036/103696_00mg.jpg)
Holy moly! That's awesome! I'm not normally into the 4x4 scene, but that's got my attention.
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it's a concept and like the "willies 2" probably won't go into production.
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Maybe not, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that pivot turn in the next decade.
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Saburo, that thing has zero-degree turning as well. Meaning at the flick of a lever the wheels can rotate to an oblique angle to turn the beast in a full circle either way.:eek:
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The duel hemis are a little much ;)
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The dual hemis are a little much?
Gunslinger, I'm going to have to ask for you to give up your american citizenship. I hear places like france and germany will take you now.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
The duel hemis are a little much ;)
Yeah, I don't see the point for offroad use.
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I ran an episode of Motorweek and they talked about the Hurricane a little.........It wont see production. It is purely a concept vehicle. Although I would think that if enough people sent in money, flowers, underclothes, etc, that at some point they would consider something similar.
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FOR SALE:
Late model Jeep, rear quarter collison damage, full tank of gas, seized lugnuts and half a brake job.
Make offer in excess of fuel in tank.
;)
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Originally posted by Hangtime
FOR SALE:
Late model Jeep, rear quarter collison damage, full tank of gas, seized lugnuts and half a brake job.
Make offer in excess of fuel in tank.
;)
:cry
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actually that's funny. I finished the brakes and I replaced all the lugs. The sloted rotors are sitting in the garage (was supposed to be this weekends project)
You forgot:
-Desert kept, NO RUST!
-New remanufactured engine with 7 year warrenty, only 7000 miles on it.
They towed it this morning but before it left I put a strait edge on the frame. It was off by 1/4" on that side.
:furious
:cry
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FWIW.. I had a Cherokee I wuz quite attached to. Gave it to my daughter as her first car, and had to watch it suffer ignoble desecration with stickers, stuffed animals and piles of fast food trash for a couple of years before it finally gave up in exasperation with it's new owner by simply refusing to start.
After my wife paid for the kids second car, I went over and got it running, tossed out the trash and scraped off the stickers, rubbed down the interior with armor all and drove it to a friends garage and made a gift of it to him. He's got a plow on it now, and it still soldiers on, fighting the snow in winter, getting stranded motorists that need a loaner to work and towing lesser makes outta the puddle in town that turns into a lake every time it rains.
There's only ONE Jeep. Anything else is just a wannabe.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
There's only ONE Jeep. Anything else is just a wannabe.
Unfortunately, those ONE jeeps weren't built by Daimler Chrysler. ;)
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Nope. Mine was built in Canada. On machinery made in the USA.
Not in Japan on machinery made in Korea. Not that I'm knocking the Xterra.. as a Jeep Wanabe, it's better than most.
But it ain't a Jeep.
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The Xterra was designed by an American and built in Smyrna, Tennessee.
Is Smyrna in the U.S.?
Can't really compare it to a Jeep (other than possibly a Cherokee). It's apples and oranges. The Xterra is a not a rock-crawler (unless highly modified), but it's nice for getting out into the wilderness and being able to carry all your gear.
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I'm looking at an 87 cherokee 4 door with a either a 4.0 or 4.2 (can't remember) 5 speed 31" tires, roof rack, and imaculate.
$3400
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Originally posted by Sandman
Is Smyrna in the U.S.?
As I recall, there's one in Kaliufornika. I haven't been to the one in Tennessee.. just becuase it's on a map, don't mean it's actually there. Could be a government conspiracy. ;)
Can't really compare it to a Jeep (other than possibly a Cherokee). It's apples and oranges. The Xterra is a not a rock-crawler (unless highly modified), but it's nice for getting out into the wilderness and being able to carry all your gear.
It's merely biased personal prefrence and dogged refusal to aknowledge evidence to the contrary that keeps defecated upon and mongrelized brands alive.
Sometimes I just hate myself.
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I'm all about biased personal preferences.
I'd prefer a 1976 Toyato Landcruiser FJ-40.
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Toyota.
henh.
Maybe we should start a mutual self hate group.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Maybe we should start a mutual self hate group.
if you were a dog I'd kick you in the face! too much?
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If I wuz a dog, I'd pee on yer rims.
:D
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Don't let a little thing like species get in the way. Pee on 'em anyway.
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Two of em are probably bent anyways. :cry
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Anyone care what the damage is?????
$4450
Guess what......THEY'RE GONNA FIX IT! :D :D :D :D
The only thing that set them (the insurance) over was the fact that the motor only has 7000 miles on it.
I couldn't be happier!
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WooHoo!!! WTG Gunny!