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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Shuckins on September 10, 2005, 05:00:19 PM
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...once the flood waters are gone.
I'll start this with a prediction...you continue it with your own additions or predictions.
Let's see how our posters think the future will pan out.
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One month after the flood waters recede, construction crews begin bulldozing the buildings and homes that have been flooded.
75% of the land is put up for sale.
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The future is definatly on the horizon for New Orleans.
And im favor of that.
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The working district of New Orleans will obviously go back. New Orleans is one of the most important cities in the US.
However, most of the lower class people aren't dumb enough to move back into slums there again.
Most.
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I think it's kind of dumb to continue building below the water level in an area where the next hurricane will strike again sooner or later.
Especially with the global warming yaddayadda.
Of course it's nice to see a city not get erased, it's just a pity to have it flooded again.
Everyone can do what they prefer, but I'll prefer to live above the sea level.
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The slum owners will have a golden opportunity to make a bundle on the sale of their land...and they will not allow it to get away.
High-dollar condos will replace the old slums.
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And im favor of that
That's because you don't have to pay for it...
New Orleans is an important 'port' but not much of an 'important city'. The city itself was mostly a dump even before the Hurricane. Maybe the waters will wash enough of the slum away and it can be rebuilt 'new'.
It will be rebuilt just like they would rebuild and have rebuilt many a city that lives under the consistent threat of Natural disaster. There are plenty of historic examples of cities being rebuilt after flood, fire, earth quake etc...
Storms of the size of Katrina don't make landfall every year or few years. New Orleans doesn't get hit directly that often. Katrina was a 'record breaker'...
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it will be interesting to see if the current admin drops those illegal socialized tariffs on canadian lumber to help the rebuild.
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NO will do just fine
just like San Fran, Galveston & Chicago to name a few
They will not rebuild the slums. many of its residents will end up staying where they have been relocated to.
The area downtown that gets rebuild will be some of the most expensive real estate in the South.
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New Orlean's poverty rate will drop dramatically.
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There is going to be about 70 -100 billion dollars funnelled through New Orleans in the next few years. I suspect a few business people reading this board will be relocating here. This will be a gulf coast gold rush. There is no ground as fertile as ground recently flooded. I see no difference here.
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Originally posted by Eagler
NO will do just fine
just like San Fran, Galveston & Chicago to name a few
They will not rebuild the slums. many of its residents will end up staying where they have been relocated to.
The area downtown that gets rebuild will be some of the most expensive real estate in the South.
What I think is just maybe people will get smart enough to NOT live below sea level.
fish are supposed to live below sea level not humans.
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no matter what they do the road will not be level with the bridge
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Bourbon St circa 2025.
(http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2000-04-30/uw_city.jpg)
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Originally posted by Bruno
That's because you don't have to pay for it...
Yes I do.
Every economy except maybe North Korea and some other small and isolated economies are going to pay for it.
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Unless the river delta is rebuilt by allowing the river to flood and deposit silt. Rebuilding is a waste of time!
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Every economy except maybe North Korea and some other small and isolated economies are going to pay for it.
Nonsense...
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Originally posted by Bruno
Nonsense...
why is that nonsense?
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Because what ever costs incurred on the world economy by Katrina doesn't directly relate to the cost that will be incurred to rebuild New Orleans itself.
Even the 'foreign aid' coming into to the US is going to offset the costs related to the survivors and recovery and is not directly related to 'rebuilding New Orleans'.
Which is what this thread is about.
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Ok, if you say so.
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Originally posted by dmf
What I think is just maybe people will get smart enough to NOT live below sea level.
fish are supposed to live below sea level not humans.
Tell that to the population of Holland.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
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i think that it should and will be rebuilt. and that they should call it 'new new orleans'
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I predict that US federal government will piss away hundreds of billions of taxpayers dollars...and if there isn't enough they will go even more massively in debt, pissing way their childrens future.
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Originally posted by Swoop
Tell that to the population of Holland.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
If I ever meet anybody from Holland I'll tell them that
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Holland and NO cant really be compared me thinks, except ofcourse that they are both below sea level.
Weather patterns are not the same, nor are the "levies" they use to protect themselves.
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Here's what angers me. 162BILLION dollars. That's a lot of money. Couldnt' you build a new city from scratch with that?
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Here's what angers me. 162BILLION dollars. That's a lot of money. Couldnt' you build a new city from scratch with that?
I dont have a map so im just guessing here..
Cant they just keep the part of NO that has not been flooded, and continue building inland or in whatever direction the land is higher than the part that has been flooded?
Again... i dont have a good 3d map here.
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North American Venice.
If they are smart
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
North American Venice.
If they are smart
Until the next hurricane comes...then it's wash repeat...to the tune of hundreds of billion of dollars.
If the individual person or corporation is so hot to rebuild New Orleans let them. It's immoral to steal from people that don't want to in order to rebuild.
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I expect to see massive sales of pipe for placing concrete over the next year to that area. However I also see a tremendous growth rate of the Baton Rouge area because many people who used to live in NO will have moved out to Baton Rouge and other areas ABOVE SEA LEVEL and away from the coastal areas of Louisianna.
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Originally posted by Furball
i think that it should and will be rebuilt. and that they should call it 'new new orleans'
Nouveau Orleans maybe?
If they don't want to rebuild... well the Navy lost its bombing range at Vieques.... maybe just make it a restricted area, bust a few holes in the levees and clear the Navy in hot. Should keep the squatters out.
If they DO want to rebuild, use the recent Supreme Court decision to "eminent domain" the entire city limits. Since the whole place is wrecked and below sea level, E.D. costs should be minimal. What's the market value of an unihabitable toxic swamp? THEN sell the whole place to the Dutch with a clause forcing them to redevelop it within 25 years. At least they are supposed to know how to build a city that's below sea level.
Just my .02. ;)
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Luxury condos and casinos as far as the eye can see...but not a slum to be found anywhere.
A few projects, maybe...however, the vast majority of the poor will never be able to return to New Orleans because of skyrocketing real estate market.
New Orleans will become the Las Vegas of the South.
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Only if the Feds pick up the tab for the rebuild.
Just say no.
If somebody wants to privately develop that and maintain the levees and pumps... go for it.
Otherwise, just build Nouveau Orleans in a better place on higher ground.
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Until the next hurricane comes...then it's wash repeat...to the tune of hundreds of billion of dollars.
If the individual person or corporation is so hot to rebuild New Orleans let them. It's immoral to steal from people that don't want to in order to rebuild.
that is exactly why I said North American venice
Screw the levies
dont try to defeat mother nature. Embrace it.
(http://www.luisdepablos.com/PRESENTACIONES/VENECIA/Grand-Canal,-Venice,-Italy.jpg)
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Originally posted by Shuckins
Luxury condos and casinos as far as the eye can see...but not a slum to be found anywhere.
A few projects, maybe...however, the vast majority of the poor will never be able to return to New Orleans because of skyrocketing real estate market.
New Orleans will become the Las Vegas of the South.
I don't think the real estate will skyrocket if they can't protect it. Pretty hard to build a casino without insurance.
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I'm actually fascinated by the long term social implications of this.
New Orleans was nearly an all black city since so many whites moved out to other cities of LA in recent decades and now they are being reunited en masse...
I wonder how it will all work out.