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Title: spit 16
Post by: viper215 on September 10, 2005, 06:22:58 PM
i heard someone say there is a spit 16 comeing out with the new version:confused:
Title: Re: spit 16
Post by: Enduro on September 10, 2005, 06:29:11 PM
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Originally posted by viper215
i heard someone say there is a spit 16 comeing out with the new version:confused:


noooo...we said "F-16" fool.  :cool:
Title: spit 16
Post by: Karnak on September 10, 2005, 07:09:53 PM
The Spitfire and Bf109 lineups are being refined to be more representative and to fix the hodgepodged Spit IX.

The Spitfire lineup that has been suggested is:

Spitfire Mk Ia, +12lbs boost (current is +6lbs boost, but labled +12)
Spitfire Mk Vb, +12lbs boost (current is +16lbs boost)
Spitfire F.Mk IX, Merlin 61 at +15lbs boost without the option for the .50 cals and rockets
Spitfire LF.Mk VIII, Merlin 66 at +18lbs boost (new model that Pyro was unsure about the need for so is the least likely to show up)
Spitfire F.Mk XIV, +21 pounds boost, perked (Current Mk XIV is at +18lbs boost.  It will probably stay at +18lbs boost, but might go to +21lbs)
Spitfire LF.Mk XVIe, Merlin 266 at +18lbs boost, clipped wings (+25lbs was requested, but the performance may be too much for AH)

Seafire L.Mk III (replaces the Seafire Mk IIc)


The Bf109G-10 is no longer going to be in AH.  My guess is that the Bf109G-14 will be added and the Bf109K-4 will replace the Bf109G-10.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Noir on September 10, 2005, 07:28:07 PM
I do hope they boost the spit14 cause for many unperked planes are comparable in speed/maniabilty
Title: spit 16
Post by: viper215 on September 10, 2005, 07:52:50 PM
cool thanks for the info



but does anayone know when this is all going to happen?
Title: spit 16
Post by: viper215 on September 10, 2005, 07:54:42 PM
and the 16 also if the preformance is to much they just have to perk it and well thats how it flew in wwII and this is a wwII vid game so we just have to deal with it. atleast we will have something new to fly.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Karnak on September 10, 2005, 08:22:24 PM
Viper,

The Spitfire Mk XVI flew at both +18lbs and +25lbs boost during WWII, so it is really their choice.

As to when, that will be when v2.06 is released.  I'd guess a month or so.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Bronk on September 10, 2005, 09:40:54 PM
Cmon we all want a spit XII dont we?
Title: spit 16
Post by: lasersailor184 on September 10, 2005, 09:42:44 PM
Yeah, but from reading all those spit posts a little while back, I believe it was said that the Spit 16 will not be outperforming the 14 at all.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Karnak on September 10, 2005, 10:11:44 PM
Spit XVI at +25lbs boost would only out perform the Soit XIV at +18lbs boost in a few areas.  The Spit XIV at +21lbs boost would be better in almost al ways.
Title: spit 16
Post by: 1K3 on September 10, 2005, 11:00:29 PM
also note that Spit LF 16 is almost the same as Spitfire LF 9 (i believe the most common) except it has an american engine and a pointy rudder tail.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Wilbus on September 11, 2005, 04:41:57 AM
The XVI will have clipped wings in AH too I believe, atleast that was what was said.

Bring it with 25+ I say, perk it if needed for the MA.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Karnak on September 11, 2005, 05:11:22 AM
It should Wilbus.  All Mk XVIs had clipped wings with two 20mms and two .50 cals.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Schutt on September 11, 2005, 06:44:54 AM
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Originally posted by Karnak
Viper,

The Spitfire Mk XVI flew at both +18lbs and +25lbs boost during WWII, so it is really their choice.

As to when, that will be when v2.06 is released. I'd guess a month or so.

 


I am sure its 2 weeks.

And i would like it to be 25. why not have a high performance spit, can still perk it.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Kev367th on September 11, 2005, 06:31:11 PM
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Originally posted by 1K3
also note that Spit LF 16 is almost the same as Spitfire LF 9 (i believe the most common) except it has an american engine and a pointy rudder tail.


In AH the IX/XVI will only mean the following -

1942 F IX - Merlin 61, 303 + 20mm, NO ord. (Better high alts)
1944 LF XVI - Merlin 66, 50cal + 20mm, ord options, (Lower alts)

In real life 1944 The LF IX and LF XVI used the same airframe only difference was the motor in the LFXVI was a Packard built Merlin 66 in place of a Rolls Royce built Merlin 66.

Spit XIV is getting boosted to 21.
Title: spit 16
Post by: hubsonfire on September 11, 2005, 06:34:56 PM
In regards to any of the spits being "too uber" due to higher boosts or whatever else; anyone remember all the fuss about the Ki-84? Let's get the planes before we freak out about them.
Title: spit 16
Post by: SuperDud on September 11, 2005, 09:53:55 PM
KI84 is uber u n00b
Title: spit 16
Post by: 1K3 on September 11, 2005, 11:03:05 PM
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Originally posted by Kev367th
Spit XIV is getting boosted to 21.


no wey, spit 14s with +21 boost are too few - waaay fewer than 109K-4 running on 1.98 ata boost.

and whoever's advocating for 109K-4 with 1.98 ata boost - it will never happen.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Karnak on September 11, 2005, 11:23:12 PM
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Originally posted by 1K3
no wey, spit 14s with +21 boost are too few - waaay fewer than 109K-4 running on 1.98 ata boost.

and whoever's advocating for 109K-4 with 1.98 ata boost - it will never happen.

I've not seen that.  What did I miss?
Title: spit 16
Post by: cav58d on September 12, 2005, 12:39:00 AM
So the G-10 is gone?
Title: spit 16
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 12, 2005, 12:50:13 AM
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Originally posted by cav58d
So the G-10 is gone?


Why would they get rid of the G-10. or any other plane for that matter.

I can see adding more planes but removing planes makes no sense to me.
Particularly if they are planning on adding another superduper dweebfire
Title: spit 16
Post by: Guppy35 on September 12, 2005, 01:18:05 AM
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Originally posted by Bronk
Cmon we all want a spit XII dont we?


Absolutely :)

Clipped Spit XVI is about as close as we'll get however if we're even that lucky.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Karnak on September 12, 2005, 02:00:38 AM
The G-10 is gone because it is actually a K-4 as modeled and they are adding the K-4 true (I bet).  I'd expect to see a K-14 to fill the gap between the G-6 and K-4.  Frankly, I'd rather see the G-10 retuned to typical G-10 performance (425mph or so) and have the G-14 added as a gap filler between the G-6 and G-10 while capping it off with the K-4.

Like so:

Bf109E-4
Bf109F-4
Bf109G-2
Bf109G-6
Bf109G-14
Bf109G-10
Bf109K-4
Title: spit 16
Post by: Wilbus on September 12, 2005, 02:30:12 AM
Typo Karnak, they add G14 to fill the gap, not K-14 ;)

This is all speculations as of yet though isn't it? The G10 will be removed, Pyro has said that much but there haven't really been any word on what will come in its place.

Probarble guesses would be as Karnak has typed.
Title: spit 16
Post by: viper215 on September 12, 2005, 04:48:58 PM
why would they take away the g10 from the game?
Title: spit 16
Post by: Karnak on September 12, 2005, 06:56:45 PM
Viper,

As I explained above (minus the typo):

The G-10 is gone because it is actually a K-4 as modeled and they are adding the K-4 true (I bet). I'd expect to see a G-14 to fill the gap between the G-6 and K-4.
Title: spit 16
Post by: Wilbus on September 13, 2005, 03:14:14 AM
The Differnece between a K4 and AH G10 Viper is that the K4 came standard equiped with a 30mm Mk 108 hub cannon. It didn't use 20mm option.

As for AH it was named G10 in order to enable a 20mm option too.
Title: spit 16
Post by: viper215 on September 13, 2005, 03:24:55 PM
ooooo i get it not ty big words confuse me lol:confused:
Title: spit 16
Post by: Edbert on September 13, 2005, 04:07:55 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
The G-10 is gone because it is actually a K-4 as modeled and they are adding the K-4 true (I bet).

Rather than think of it as removing the G10 think of it as renaming the current model. Like they did for the D30/D40.