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Title: Ditching...
Post by: Horrido! on September 11, 2005, 03:35:16 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Ditching...
Post by: NoBaddy on September 11, 2005, 03:43:56 PM
Hmm, "less than 200".....try getting a little slower. :)
Title: Ditching...
Post by: Panzzer on September 11, 2005, 03:58:38 PM
Ran out of fuel earlier today in a Hurri, ditched in the sea @ around 150 mph. Went smoothly, with gears in. Last sunday in the Close Escort test frame I had lost one of my gears in a 109G-2, landed at about 175 mph (which is too fast and on 1 gear) and went boom! - didn't remember I lost the right gear, should've tried without.

I think it's fine now. Although I don't play for the scores so it's no big deal for me if I die or get a ditch...
Title: Ditching...
Post by: 68Hall on September 11, 2005, 04:04:13 PM
you were too fast.
Title: Ditching...
Post by: Wilbus on September 11, 2005, 04:13:30 PM
Too fast and no I don't believe they are incompetent ;)

200mph is pretty fast still, doable in R/L? Yes... but I believe they have found a good "in between" if they make it faster then 200 it will be too easy to ditch during combat. People would exploit like they did before.
Title: Ditching...
Post by: SELECTOR on September 11, 2005, 05:53:10 PM
try landing a real ply wood plane at 200mph with no wheels...
speeds are fine and more realistic now...stop crying
Title: Ditching...
Post by: WMLute on September 11, 2005, 07:15:57 PM
I never use landing gear (except on cv's) and out side of ONE instance where I tried setting a damaged 262 down at 170kias, I have never NOT been able to land a plane sans. landing gear.

150kias is the sweet spot.  150 and down, no worries, you can land it.  Roughly what I have always done anyway, so the new ditch is great in my opinion.  

Even before the new ditch model I NEVER tried landing at 200kias.  175 maybe....
Title: Ditching...
Post by: killnu on September 11, 2005, 07:18:03 PM
ive belly landed a 38 and a jug at 200 safely on runway.  maybe the plane construction has something to do with it as well.
Title: Ditching...
Post by: BigB717 on September 11, 2005, 09:11:26 PM
I agree with new speed, more realistic speed.

However, does anyone remember when they used to have it at 400 + your plane accually fell apart/ took dammage from the scrapes and bangs from landing. You very rarlely had it where u would INSTANTLY go to tower from just scratching your wingtip.

That is what is wrong with new ditch/landing model/dammage.

I like the speed at which it was changed but, you need to keep the way your pane takes it. If your at 180 and just slightly touch your wing or belly to hard...POOF tower! The plane used to fall apart and give u a chance to live.

It sucks, when your at 200 u BARELY touch your wingtip or scratch your belly and POOF tower when your trying to slow down.

YODA< just thinks its a tad sensitive...even though the speed was changed


this does not mean i dont agree that u can ditch any faster, simply your plane should react the same as it did
Title: Ditching...
Post by: Morpheus on September 11, 2005, 09:19:50 PM
do you know what a 200mph landing wheels up would feel like?
Title: Ditching...
Post by: BigB717 on September 12, 2005, 12:18:41 AM
morph re-read my post


did i say landing wheels up at 200.... no

think u missunderstood me
Title: Ditching...
Post by: BigB717 on September 12, 2005, 12:19:33 AM
I know what it would feal like just as much as u do
lol
Title: Ditching...
Post by: Horrido! on September 12, 2005, 03:44:27 AM
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Originally posted by BigB717
I agree with new speed, more realistic speed.

However, does anyone remember when they used to have it at 400 + your plane accually fell apart/ took dammage from the scrapes and bangs from landing. You very rarlely had it where u would INSTANTLY go to tower from just scratching your wingtip.

That is what is wrong with new ditch/landing model/dammage.

I like the speed at which it was changed but, you need to keep the way your pane takes it. If your at 180 and just slightly touch your wing or belly to hard...POOF tower! The plane used to fall apart and give u a chance to live.

It sucks, when your at 200 u BARELY touch your wingtip or scratch your belly and POOF tower when your trying to slow down.

YODA< just thinks its a tad sensitive...even though the speed was changed


this does not mean i dont agree that u can ditch any faster, simply your plane should react the same as it did


/\
He gets it.


They got it too.
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"Another pilot, Ernie Weidenhammer, beat the odds. He was up by Rome when a 20 mm shell exploded in the cockpit, right in front of him. It hit a nerve in his right arm and he could not use it. He of course was bleeding all over but managed to fly the plane for forty five minutes with his left hand. I suspect he couldn't touch the throttle so he belly-landed under power on the grass and passed out. The meat wagon gathered him up and rushed him to the nearest military hospital."

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"He was putting another of these patched-together Jugs through its paces when half of the right wing broke off at the aileron/flap line! After a moment of panic, he discovered it was still controllable as long as he kept it at full throttle, but if he let go of the stick, or throttled back, the unbroken wing tried to flip the plane over. That also meant there was no way to bail out. So he decided he’d try to fly it onto the runway, gear-up, at 400 mph. But you still have to slow down at some point when you land. When he cut power at just a few feet over the runway, the good wing took authority and the Jug snap-rolled itself once (probably ripping the wing off), slammed down on its belly, and careened down the runway (continuing to roll) shedding parts as it went. The plane plowed through some boarding stairs (an image that stayed with him!), passed under the nose of a parked C-47, and finally slammed nose-first into an embankment. The only part of the airplane left was the cockpit and engine, all in a sort of an accordion shape. Dad, displaying the luck that would follow him throughout the war, was unhurt, though a bit hazy from hitting his head on the gunsight. When people got to the crash site, Dad was a bit delirious, busily flipping switches, trying to turn things off despite there being nothing left on the other end of the switches. I have the top half of the broken joystick grip from that plane."
Title: Ditching...
Post by: SkyWolf on September 12, 2005, 07:09:15 AM
Quote
Originally posted by WMLute
I never use landing gear (except on cv's)



Wow... no kidding? Not to hijack the thread... but how come?
Title: Ditching...
Post by: Morpheus on September 12, 2005, 07:58:39 AM
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Originally posted by BigB717
morph re-read my post


did i say landing wheels up at 200.... no

think u missunderstood me


I wasnt talking to you.
Title: Ditching...
Post by: BBQ_Bob on September 12, 2005, 09:33:06 AM
Quit your Ditching.
Title: Ditching...
Post by: WMLute on September 12, 2005, 12:22:30 PM
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Originally posted by SkyWolf
Wow... no kidding? Not to hijack the thread... but how come?


Much faster exit to tower in a belly land.  I have come screaching to a halt w/ nme bullets pinging around me many o' time and made it due to the sudden halt of a bellyland, and a quick .ef.

More habbit now I guess.
Title: Ditching...
Post by: BigB717 on September 12, 2005, 01:56:27 PM
ok morph

my bad ;)
Title: Ditching...
Post by: Horrido! on September 12, 2005, 03:52:14 PM
I guess voicing my opinion is not tolerated here since my workserver IP got banned. Why didn't you ban my bbs account as well Skuzzy? Afraid people would notice? (http://www.lfsforum.net/images/smilies/pillepalle.gif)

One thing is for sure though. HTC is not getting my money ever again. Back to Il-2.

to friends and foe alike.

to HTC.

Bye.
Title: Ditching...
Post by: SkyWolf on September 12, 2005, 05:11:02 PM
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Originally posted by Horrido!
I guess voicing my opinion is not tolerated here since my workserver IP got banned. Why didn't you ban my bbs account as well Skuzzy? Afraid people would notice? (http://www.lfsforum.net/images/smilies/pillepalle.gif)

One thing is for sure though. HTC is not getting my money ever again. Back to Il-2.

to friends and foe alike.

to HTC.

Bye.



Oh PLEASE don't go... Please please please!
Title: Ditching...
Post by: frank3 on September 13, 2005, 01:18:52 PM
200 mph for ditching is theoretically way too fast, it's like touching the ground with the SBD's topspeed!

The P-47 will do the job though :)
Title: Ditching...
Post by: tactic on September 13, 2005, 01:32:59 PM
Hell, its hard to land  with gear down at 200, if you can get gear down at that speed.  Let alone landing with no gear down at 200.
Title: Ditching...
Post by: frank3 on September 13, 2005, 01:37:33 PM
Like I said; the P-47 will do the job :aok