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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Chairboy on September 14, 2005, 11:33:15 AM
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Hi guys,
Can anyone help me out in deciphering an unknown aviation acronym? I've googled it, but didn't find a match.
First of all, for VFR equipment requirements, I use GOOSE A CAT:
Gas gauge
Oil temperature
Oil pressure
Seatbelt
ELT
Altimeter
Compass
Airspeed indicator
Tachometer
My friend had an instructor that was trying to teach him 'Flaming tomatoes', but has since 'flown' the coop to go work for a regional, and my friend forgot what it stood for. Anyone (Golfer?) know off hand?
Also, any other good ones? Here are some I know:
GUMPS for pre-landing: Gas, undercarriage (eg, gear down), mixture, props, seatbelts.
MILL is one I used for remembering that to fly, I need to have (on me) Medical, ID (photo), License (well, certificate, but shut up), and used to say Logbook, even though I know I don't really need it on me, but I need to be able to prove currency if I'm carrying pax, even if it's after the fact.
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http://www.scottsasha.com/aviation/acronyms.html
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Cool, thanks!
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Originally posted by Chairboy
My friend had an instructor that was trying to teach him 'Flaming tomatoes', but has since 'flown' the coop to go work for a regional, and my friend forgot what it stood for. Anyone (Golfer?) know off hand?
Also, any other good ones? Here are some I know:
GUMPS for pre-landing: Gas, undercarriage (eg, gear down), mixture, props, seatbelts.
MILL is one I used for remembering that to fly, I need to have (on me) Medical, ID (photo), License (well, certificate, but shut up), and used to say Logbook, even though I know I don't really need it on me, but I need to be able to prove currency if I'm carrying pax, even if it's after the fact.
TOMATOFLAMES: Day VFR Equipment
Tach
Oil Press
Manifold Press
Altimeter
Temp gauge for each liquid cooled engine
Oil Temp
Fuel Gauge
Landing Gear Indicator
Airspeed Indicator
Mag. Compass
ELT
Seatbelts
FLAPS: Night VFR Equipment
Fuses (Complete set or 3 of each kind)
Landing Light if for hire
Anticollision Light
Position Lights
Source of power (can be a 9v battery if you so chose)
For GUMPS I use
Gas
Undercarriage
Mixture
Prop
Seatbelt/Switches (landing lights)
GRABCARDD: IFR (In addition to both day and night VFR)
Generator or Alternator (Renewable source of electricity)
Radio (Comm and Nav)
Altimeter (Sensitive and adjustable)
Ball
Clock
Attitude Gyro
Rate of Turn indicator
Directional Gyro
DME if aboe 24,000 feet
For required documents...
ARROW
Airworthiness Cert
Registration Cert
Radio Cert (plane AND pilot)
Owners Manual
Weight and balance (the ability to compute one)
Taxi for takeoff Check: TITS
Time (Note)
Instrument (DG)
Transponder
Switches
After takeoff: studmuffin at 1000 ft
Flaps (raised, cowl flaps adjusted)
Airspeed (set with initial power reduction)
Gear (up)
That's a few off hand and if I missed anything...sorry :)
And sorry for the late punt chairboy!
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Originally posted by Dnil
http://www.scottsasha.com/aviation/acronyms.html
DOH could have clicked that link and life would've been all good.
Double apologies :)
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Mnemonic
True Virgins Make Dull Company
True Course +-
Variation =
Magnetic Course +-
Deviation =
Compass Course
I use DARN to remember when a procedure turn is not required.
DME approach
Approach from a hold
Radar Vectors
No Pt
Or at least I used to pre-GPS.
When I line up on the runway I double check with HHAATTT for Heading (set the DG), Heat (pitot), Altimeter, Attitude Indicator, Time, Trim, Transponder.
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I always admire people that actually use those acronyms. The time used to remember one, is a time where I don't "fly the plane".
The only one I use is :"Don't crash your bucket you stupid prettythang".
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
I always admire people that actually use those acronyms. The time used to remember one, is a time where I don't "fly the plane".
The only one I use is :"Don't crash your bucket you stupid prettythang".
What do you mean by the fly the plane comment french...I don't follow:confused:
I always do my T's crossing a new fix or changeover point. There are about a million ways to do them but mine are
Time
Turn
Twist
Throttles
Tires
Talk
I've also been guilty of wondering why the autopilot was taking me somewhere I didn't want to go...silly kx155 radios will doubletap on you now and then.
As far as Tomatoflames, Flaps and yadda yadda goes...they're handy for checkrides and ramp checks. I got "Tits" from a cfi buddy of mine when I successfully left the transponder in the 'standby' position when departing on my private checkride. When asked by the examiner if I needed it I replied no and turned it on "just to be prudent" I said :D
Still even now I say Tits on the runway but if I'm with a female in the plane I'll either just think it or say it louder than usual...depending on the company.
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You shouldn't be off in acronym land while the plane requires your attention to stay in the air?
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If that's what he meant then I'd have to say...I had no idea acronyms caused airplane accidents.
I'll never use them again because Frenchy said so. I'll stop looking at my checklist as well just to make sure I stay safe. God save the poor unknowing bastages who don't realize how deadly it is to take note of their position on their moving map GPS or even worse...looking at my approach plate! Dear god! This flying stuff is dangerous I better spread the word that acronyms, checklists, gps and approach plates are evil and cannot be trusted with pilots as they hinder safe operation of flight.
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Originally posted by moot
You shouldn't be off in acronym land while the plane requires your attention to stay in the air?
It's not exactly like solving a Rubiks Cube while attemping to levitate the airplane through concentration. They make remembering things easier which is, after all, the point.
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And casca puts to words what only a poet could dream. Such effortlessness as well...amazing.
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eh relax :)
just my non-pilot impression of what he may have meant.
In general, I only use acronyms myself when there is no pressing need for an instant solution.
It's a lot more effective in my experience to let your brain emulate the workings of whatever you're working with, so that any needed inputs happen by themselves rather than by micromanagement.
I've never piloted a plane (besides once when a friendly pilot let me grab the controls for a moment), but it seems to me there's a ****load of conventions and starchy measures for such a simple tool.
I know why they're so strict, as for similar disciplines like firearm safety, but acronyms have always been too foreign to the actual construct they're about for split-second decisions.. I know I wouldn't be thinking of acronyms if I was in the middle of 300 parts flying in close formation.
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Split second decisions aren't made using acronyms. They're either memory items that are drilled into the training from day one such as an engine failure checklist in a multiengine airplane or done using instincts, skill and experience.
Every multiengine pilot (who can still remember at least when they flew those 'piston' powered airplanes) knows:
Mixtures
Props
Throttles
Flaps up
Gear up
Identify
Verify
Feather/Fix
You'll never forget that. If a motor decides to stop running (or in my cases only partial power losses...gee whiz horay...pffft!) you recite this in a smooth, calm and deliberate manner. I say it the same way every time whether teaching it or doing it for real (all three times while teaching) or so I've been told by students. I say Mixtures, prrrrrrrrrrrrrops, throoooooootlllllleees because the mixtures go right up, the props go smoothly and take 3-4 seconds and the throttles just like the props. It's not because I thought about it...it's the training :)
Anyways, I didn't want you to think I was jumping on you. Sometimes my humor gets a little dehydrated.
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I always had trouble memorizing the acronyms and like Frenchy, I found that in the time it took me to dig the acronym out of my memory and decode it, I could do a complete sweep of the cockpit and switches and reference my custom cheater checklist.
I do have certain rhythms I use where others use acronyms, and I find that they work just fine for me. USAF boldface emergency procedures don't use acronyms either, because it adds a decoding step to the memory retrieval and action habit patterns.
At the perch point prior to landing, it's flaps power pitch roll. In the final turn, it's "handle down three green xx% flaps good hydraulics, confirm?" followed by the gear down radio call.
It's more about doing it the same way every time than trying to find an acronym that meets the inflight situation.
Now on the ground, that's a different story. I use and teach acronyms for aircraft systems and other general knowledge because nothing bad is going to happen if I have to just sit there and dig stuff out of my memory, but inflight I'd rather follow a habit pattern and back it up with the checklist or cheat guide because retrieving and decoding the acronym takes too long for me.
Like instead of memorizing some acronym for what direction to turn when entering holding, if I anticipate having to shoot a penetration I'll make sure I have a holding pattern diagram somewhere in the mission materials on my kneeboard. A quick glance lets me know which way to turn without having to dig out acronyms or do much math.
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I always had trouble memorizing the acronyms and like Frenchy, I found that in the time it took me to dig the acronym out of my memory and decode it, I could do a complete sweep of the cockpit and switches and reference my custom cheater checklist.
Thank you for translating Eagler.
As far as checkrides or being on the ground go, I could never remember the fried tomato for more than an hour, yet I still remember "it's in 91.205" which always made me go thru checkrides.
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I had a few in Hebrew but I can't post it here.
In astrophysics I have an acronym for the spectral types of stars which seems like a random bunch of letter: O B A F G K M (O being the hottest - "bluest").
O Blimy A Freakin' Gorilla Killed Mom.
That's the only way I can remember it by order.
Bozon