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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SirLoin on September 15, 2005, 10:07:52 PM
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Stricty gameplay speaking...I'd like to see the FW's have a flap option at 200 mph.
Another notch at 160 and we'll take it from there.
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Stricty gameplay speaking...I'd like to see the FW's have a flap option at 200 mph.
Another notch at 160 and we'll take it from there.
LOL Mustang and 47N have em @ 400 :lol
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See, were not even greedy about it ;)
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Imagine the attack potential for the FW a8/f ...:eek:
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If HT will not get rid of the coddling Auto-retracting flaps in favor of a model that will model flap stress realistically, then I really don't think you'll have a snow ball's chance in Hell getting an extra flap setting a plane didn't have put into the game.
ack-ack
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190s did have 1 notch high speed combat flaps and can be used below 300 mph. This's been showed on aircraft/vehicle thread.
Also it would be important to have AUTO EXTENDING FLAPs for N1K2-J. All N1K2-Js had this feature and a mercury thingy is used to sense if the Angle of attack is high. If angle of attack is high the the flaps automatically extend
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Originally posted by 1K3
Also it would be nice to have AUTO EXTENDING FLAPs for N1K2-J. All N1K2-Js had this feature and a mercury thingy is used to sense if the Angle of attack is high. If angle of attack is high the the flaps automatically extend
Have to disagree there. While they MAY have had some sort of mechanism in reality, I don't want the game flying my plane for me. I want to turn my flaps on when I want 'em, dagnabbit!!! :P I accept autoretract because it's the best solution for that problem, but I don't want autodeploy!! Too gamey.
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1K3, do you have a link to that thread about 190 Flaps?
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If HT will not get rid of the coddling Auto-retracting flaps in favor of a model that will model flap stress realistically, then I really don't think you'll have a snow ball's chance in Hell getting an extra flap setting a plane didn't have put into the game.
Irrelvant issue.
... as usual.
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no
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I found the thread my self :)
Yeah I'd like to see the combat/takeoff/first notch of flaps deploy acording to historical values. Crumpp seem to have found good documents of it.
I do not want it added if it is proven to be wrong. Want it realistic.
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what thread is it wil?
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why couldnt auto flaps be a choice like auto takeoff?
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Originally posted by Krusty
Have to disagree there. While they MAY have had some sort of mechanism in reality, I don't want the game flying my plane for me. I want to turn my flaps on when I want 'em, dagnabbit!!! :P I accept autoretract because it's the best solution for that problem, but I don't want autodeploy!! Too gamey.
Why is it "gamey" to model a system that all N1K2-J's had in reality and one that worked very well in reality? There is no "MAY have had" about it. They had it. That is part of the N1K2-J's flight performance. To not want it is to want a gamey modification.
Now, only N1Ks should have the auto-deployed flaps, so far as I know. Certainly US aircraft did not have that mechanism.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Have to disagree there. While they MAY have had some sort of mechanism in reality, I don't want the game flying my plane for me. I want to turn my flaps on when I want 'em, dagnabbit!!! :P I accept autoretract because it's the best solution for that problem, but I don't want autodeploy!! Too gamey.
How is adding something into the game that actually happened in real life gamey? That's like saying the ability to look left and right is gamey.
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I've heard all kinds of tales and stories as to why the 109s' and 190s' dont have them in the game.
The way I see it... They had the brains, skills and means to make a rocket fly at ungodly speeds for the time, it could employ flaps nearly whenever it felt like it. Then you have the 262 which has flaps like the 51s that come down while over mach 1.
I dont beleive that the germans were stupid enough not to make them strong enough on the 109's and 190's. I've read stories about german pilots deploying flaps in a sticky situation at high speeds. If I had a scanner i'd scan it into the BB for ya. Not that itd make much difference though. SOME history/fact psycho will come along and say that the pilot is or was a liar.
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TrueKill I lost the thread again, tried searching for it but couldn't find it...
first time I searched for "fw190 combat flaps"...
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The real handicap is that all of these LW planes will not extend flaps till you hit speeds of -160. Sad thing is that none of these planes really handle well nor turn well at these speeds (with a couple exceptions). If you are -160 in a dogfight, in a LW bird against anything other than a c47 or the same plane that you are in, you will probably die a fiery death =)
Reason the P51D is such a good plane in my opinion, you can drop those flaps at 300+, really gets that nose around in a hurry.
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Old subject, and like perking the LA7 it ain't gonna happen.
There is too much conflicting evidence about when and how the flaps on the 190's could be deployed.
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Id fly it then.