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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Nilsen on September 17, 2005, 04:28:09 AM
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Its been suggested over here that all new cars bought after 2012 should have alcolocks in them so you cant start your car if you have had a drink. Too bad they dont work if you are on drugs tho.
Excellent idea!
Is this beeing discussed elsewere in the world?
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shame they dont have em on boats, huh? :D
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No.. that would be a bad idea :furious
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Originally posted by Furball
shame they dont have em on boats, huh? :D
Cut him some slack.
He's looking to get his very own first car and is considerate enough to want to make the roads safe for the rest of us:D
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LOL
That would be a great idea to get car prices even higher than they are now.
At one time around here they started getting on the kick of putting the locks on cars of the young people who were getting DWIs. They simply got someone else to do the test and start the car. Brilliant.
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believe me... if they do it to cars then boats are next and then motorcycles and then bicycles and then your front door... and then if you blow too high a level it will shoot you with indellable die and an alarm will go off and you will be under arrest.
lazs
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Lol Lazs.. thats just paranoid :D
I think its an excellent idea but then im not scared of everything that the goverment does :p
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yep... government never seeks more power and more laws..
in japan the trucks were gonna have rotating beacons on the roof and if you broke the speed limit it would go on and only a cop could turn it off (after he wrote you a ticket)... don't know if they did that one or not...
here they have spy cameras at intersections and on freeways to catch you speeding.
lazs
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LOL :D
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Lol Lazs.. thats just paranoid :D
I think its an excellent idea but then im not scared of everything that the goverment does :p
Why , exactly do you think it would be a good idea?
You like throwing money away for useless ideas or what?
You do know how easy these things are to beat , don`t you?
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Anything can be beat.
It wont stop the alcoholics or those that really really wants to get their car started.
It will stop some of those that wake up on sunday morning thinking its out of their system or some of those regular folks that "forgets" and has a pint at dinner before getting in their car.. they hand the keys to their missus or someone else or waits an extra hour befor they drive.
They have tested it here and the results are good.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Anything can be beat.
It wont stop the alcoholics or those that really really wants to get their car started.
It will stop some of those that wake up on sunday morning thinking its out of their system or some of those regular folks that "forgets" and has a pint at dinner before getting in their car.. they hand the keys to their missus or someone else or waits an extra hour befor they drive.
They have tested it here and the results are good.
All it would do is cost people money for another stupid "We are the power" idea.
I`m sure you have been told the results are good. Who picked the testers? :)
Don`t know why some people just don`t go ahead and get 6 numbers tattoed on their forehead for future reference.
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lets hope they dont put them on aeroplanes, or British Airways would be screwed!
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Who picked the testers? :)
You need one of them hats made of shiny metal me thinks :D
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:rofl
If they put them on PCs, HT will lose 95% of the player base. :)
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Originally posted by Nilsen
You need one of them hats made of shiny metal me thinks :D
LOL ...and I suspect you have your windows tinfoiled. It was a simple question. Sorry it went over your head. Carry on.
I`m sure you can help out in the study to prevent glue sniffing. :)
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Look... all drinkers pay alcohol taxes. I think the least the government could do in return is supply free taxi service to anyone that has had any alcohol in the last 24 hours. That's fair.
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Originally posted by Toad
Look... all drinkers pay alcohol taxes. I think the least the government could do in return is supply free taxi service to anyone that has had any alcohol in the last 24 hours. That's fair.
:)
I like the idea. Government snooping at it`s finest hour.
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AFter a hard nights drinking, the last thing I need is a computer chip getting in the way of my bed.
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It has been under discussion over here, too.
However only in the case of drunk drivers - either their drivers license is taken away or they have to install an alcolock and use it for a while.
I'm not for installing alcolock in every car though.
I don't like the idea of giving a breath example every time I start the car.
Besides I'm unusually sober for a finn.
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The could simply ban the use of alcohol. Afterall, similar laws banning drug use in this country have been incredibly successful.
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"All it would do is cost people money for another stupid "We are the power" idea."
in the long term it would save people money (in socialist paradises like canada anyway:rolleyes: ) because we wouldnt be spending as much to treat people involved in alcohol related accidents.
easy to beat? probably no easier than it is to break into the average home.
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Originally posted by vorticon
in the long term it would save people money (in socialist paradises like canada anyway:rolleyes: ) because we wouldnt be spending as much to treat people involved in alcohol related accidents.
I don`t know how you figure that Anyone who wishs to drink and drive will do so. I don`t see any relation here.
easy to beat? probably no easier than it is to break into the average home.
Exactly. A piece of cake.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Exactly. A piece of cake.
No point in making it harder to break in then ;)
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Originally posted by lazs2
here they have spy cameras at intersections and on freeways to catch you speeding.
lazs
thats why I've decided to get one of them super accurate paintball guns comlete with sniper scope.
Guess what my favorite targt is gonna be?
they cant ticket us if they cant see us:D
Oh and I hope they dont think of using the same type radar systems they have on those signs tell you how fast your going to get people to slow down.
Those things are super innaccurate.
And usually NOT in your favor
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Originally posted by vorticon
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easy to beat? probably no easier than it is to break into the average home.
And just how difficult do you think it is to break into the avegage home?
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Originally posted by lazs2
believe me... if they do it to cars then boats are next and then motorcycles and then bicycles and then your front door... and then if you blow too high a level it will shoot you with indellable die and an alarm will go off and you will be under arrest.
lazs
Laz, you cant legislate common sense
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"Oh and I hope they dont think of using the same type radar systems they have on those signs tell you how fast your going to get people to slow down."
"Those things are super innaccurate.
And usually NOT in your favor"
A majority of doppler radar errors will in fact be in your (the driver's) favor. Cosine error is the most common and it always causes speed to be reported low. The few errors which cause speed to be "not in your favor" are generally caused in moving mode, which is a non-factor to a stationary unit.
J_A_B
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Originally posted by Nilsen
No point in making it harder to break in then ;)
By the government, no. :)
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I've suggested the same thing several times before. Here's the drawbacks:
It would cost the local governments Millions in fines, probationary fees, and put 100's of probation officers and social workers out of work.
It would add roughly $100 to the cost of a new car.
It would save lives. (And we can't have that now, can we?)
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I think it's an untenable idea. Gadgets are limited in what they can do, and this one would not have the desired effect of significantly reducing alcohol related accidents.
In any event, it should be an option and not a required part of every car sold. It may help those who don't want to drink and drive, or who need to know if they are too impared to drive (kinda like a HAL 5000 computer in the car, i.e. it could drive you where you needed to go if need be, while you play AH on the drive over.) Otherwise imo this idea won't stop drunk driving or even reduce it effectively.
Les
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didn't we try to ban booze once allready?
I seem to recall that back in the 80's there was a movement to have the breathalizer installed on the cars of people convicted of druk driving... I believe they even tried it in some small amount of cars.
oh... bet I could figure out a way around it pretty simply... bet there would be any number of chips that defeated it sold withing a month.
lazs
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The computer in my car wouldn't let me drink and drive even with manual over-ride.
Les
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Breathalizers in every car? Sounds like a horrible idea. I prefer personal freedoms, and I'm happy to live with the consequences. I don't care if they do it in Norway though...I don't live there.
Lazs...they do use the in-car breathalizer as a tool of punishment up here. I had a friend a while back who had one installed in his Elky. The thing was unreliable as hell (sometimes it blew positive when he wasn't drinking, sometimes it blew negative when he was drinking), and the installation did some funky things to his in-dash electrical.
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can you imagine how nasty the mouthpeice would get after awhile?
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i wonder if a drunk car thief could start your car and steal it?
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Originally posted by lazs2
believe me... if they do it to cars then boats are next and then motorcycles and then bicycles and then your front door... and then if you blow too high a level it will shoot you with indellable die and an alarm will go off and you will be under arrest.
lazs
wORD.
The bottom line is that PEOPLE DO STUPID THINGS and no gadget Uncle Slam forces on us will ever change that.
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sob.... I agree with you that personal freedom is much more important than personal security. I think the founders felt the same.
lazs