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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on September 18, 2005, 08:23:13 PM
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"What they didn't steal they trashed," Richmond said, gazing through a window of her shop, before the soldiers were able to break open the door. "They got what they could and ruined what they left."
It was a scene repeated over and over Saturday as business owners were allowed back in to some sections of the city to begin the long process of cleaning up and rebuilding.
http://www.komotv.com/stories/39277.htm
A majority of the N.O. residents personify everything that is wrong with America, IMO.
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Rip, I've said it before.. those are OUR refugees; OUR looters, OUR Somalia.
This is NOT racist commentary.
This is proof positive that the welfare system is broken. The education system is broken. The Local government is broken. The state government is broken. The federal government is broken.
Time folks looked at the evidence, admitted failure and started on fixing the damn problem instead of just denying the truth.
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Or maybe do something about it...
Thomas Jefferson himself, expected that the people should rebel if the Government gets as bad as it is today....He gave the Constitution which we operated on for 200+ years about 20 years before it should have been replaced.
Here's one quote from a letter to James Madison
"I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government."
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And here's the Other about our rebellion against england.
"And can history produce an instance of rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. They were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. "
You see..you aren't supposed to just leave it to the government to change the government.
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Heck. Everyone can use a new TV now and then. :rofl
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Rip, I've said it before.. those are OUR refugees; OUR looters, OUR Somalia.
This is NOT racist commentary.
This is proof positive that the welfare system is broken. The education system is broken. The Local government is broken. The state government is broken. The federal government is broken.
Time folks looked at the evidence, admitted failure and started on fixing the damn problem instead of just denying the truth.
It also proves that we're about a week and a half away from the third world (if that).
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watch out MT will come in here and tell you about two different pictures taken by two different photographers and given two different captions based on the authors eye witness acounts completly shows that it's all racism that we see and nothing else.
Then Raider will come in here and argue his poor little heart out being proven wrong every turn and bringing up facts from fantasy land.
And then the thread will get locked.
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Looks like the angels of death are already hovering over this thread.
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Hold on
You ever think that the threat racism itself hurts this problem? Seriously, we could have some of the greatest minds in this country that want to fix some of these problems but don't dare say anything bad (even statistically factual) about minorities for fear of being branded a racist.
For the last 2 weeks I've been saying this is a racial cry of wolf. Some people really need to let go of their anger and their politics and fix this.
Personally if Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson spent as much time telling their people to: 1. finish High School and try for college 2. Don't have kids until you are married 3. Don't get married until you are financially secure, as they do blaming Bush There'd be alot fewer problems in this world.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Rip, I've said it before.. those are OUR refugees; OUR looters, OUR Somalia.
This is NOT racist commentary.
This is proof positive that the welfare system is broken. The education system is broken. The Local government is broken. The state government is broken. The federal government is broken.
Time folks looked at the evidence, admitted failure and started on fixing the damn problem instead of just denying the truth.
I agree but its time people stopped looking to their party as the solution. Both parties are part of the problem.
We need a real look at the problems and real solutions not more BS from both parties. Partisan politics just screws us an gives them more power.
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Thankfully the rioting and looting of peoples own neighborhoods in the current New Oreleans tragedy is unprecedented for inner city american communities. So we have no cause to think it will happend again under similar stressful situations and thus there is no reason to ask uncomforable questions.
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just why would we not expect the same thing to happen in say LA after a massive quake, or in any other major city following a major disaster?
Gunslinger hit it on the head. The flipping minorities have been coddled for so long on the teat of welfare and socialism, this is what we get as a result.
This is a problem not only in NO, but across the whole of America.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Thankfully the rioting and looting of peoples own neighborhoods in the current New Oreleans tragedy is unprecedented for inner city american communities. So we have no cause to think it will happend again under similar stressful situations and thus there is no reason to ask uncomforable questions.
I'm dubious about the use of the word 'unprecedented'. I saw the Watts riot, younger folk from out there may recall a minor (by comparison) disturbance in south central.
When SHTF, it's always the neighborhoods where the participants live that suffer first and the most.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Thankfully the rioting and looting of peoples own neighborhoods in the current New Oreleans tragedy is unprecedented for inner city american communities. So we have no cause to think it will happend again under similar stressful situations and thus there is no reason to ask uncomforable questions.
LOL
Hell, when rioting and looting starts over winning a basketball title I don`t really think it takes much to be used for an excuse.
Unprecedented ? Hardly.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
This is a problem not only in NO, but across the whole of America.
Didn't the Vandals and Huns and Barbars sack, rape, pillage, and loot?
It seems when society breaks down for any reason similar behavior has been common throughout history.
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It would be racist to round up every black in the area and imprison or hang them... to point out that the looters, by and large, were black is not racist. It is a fact.
If I were black I would be condeming those who looted. I would not want to be associated with them... If you defend them you are tainted by them.
lazs
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The sad thing is the looters have hurt recovery. There are stores that should be open right now but are not because they were stripped bare and some set on fire. If any of these people can be identified on video, they should be imprisoned for years. These looter have directly created some of the suffering going on right now. They looted a damn barber shop! Stole all the chairs!
Thankfully, a few businesses were guarded and looters were met with m16 fire. So we'll have some grocery stores. We wouldn't have them had the looters be allowed to continue pillaging the city.
On the good side, its going to require a little more work to live in New Orleans. Most conveniences will be gone for a long time. I think people who feel some entitlement won't want to live here anymore. No one will be able to make the excuse "I can't find a job." You can't walk three feet without bumping into a job now.
If there is any good to come out of this, its that New Orleans will be a working city again instead of a cesspool of laziness and drug warfare.
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No one is defending looters. But if you think they looted BECAUSE they were black then you are probably a racist.
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In south central... the store owners that defended their stores with firearms were not looted.
lazs
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Originally posted by BTW
The sad thing is the looters have hurt recovery. There are stores that should be open right now but are not because they were stripped bare and some set on fire. If any of these people can be identified on video, they should be imprisoned for years. These looter have directly created some of the suffering going on right now. They looted a damn barber shop! Stole all the chairs!
Thankfully, a few businesses were guarded and looters were met with m16 fire. So we'll have some grocery stores. We wouldn't have them had the looters be allowed to continue pillaging the city.
On the good side, its going to require a little more work to live in New Orleans. Most conveniences will be gone for a long time. I think people who feel some entitlement won't want to live here anymore. No one will be able to make the excuse "I can't find a job." You can't walk three feet without bumping into a job now.
If there is any good to come out of this, its that New Orleans will be a working city again instead of a cesspool of laziness and drug warfare.
That's because they were probably raised to put "themselves first" and be selfish. Not because "they are poor". Excuses won't work in this case.
Karaya
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Who is they?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
No one is defending looters. But if you think they looted BECAUSE they were black then you are probably a racist.
What if you think they were looting because of the culture they've been raised in? (White, black, yellow, whatever...)
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The looters?
lazs
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What do you call it when you don't show the looting or try to justify the looting because of the race of the looters? Stinks of racism to me.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
No one is defending looters. But if you think they looted BECAUSE they were black then you are probably a racist.
DING DING DING
Winner!!!!
Any bozo who thinks that there is some sort of looting gene in black people is an idiot.
Example:
Recently as the Israelis were leaving Gaza there was a dispuite over some irrigation plants and houses that were going to be problematic in terms of the fact that they were valuable assets which were going to be "given" to the Palestinians.
Sooooo, a group of Jews in North America got together and bought the assets and then handed all legal title to the Pals. It was theirs...free and clear.
The next thing that happens is bitter in fighting amongst the Pals. The police lose control over the situation and the assets were looted or totally destroyed.
It ain't a black thing...it is a human thing.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
No one is defending looters. But if you think they looted BECAUSE they were black then you are probably a racist.
Regardless of Race, Religion, Creed, Sex. Looting is a Punishable Crime, depending on the value of items STOLEN, it is a FELONY.
Karaya
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I remember listening to this interview while somewhere on an interstate hwy and wondering if I had a home..
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168684,00.html
>>COLMES: I understand. I don't want to get off track here. I want to talk about the issue of going and taking things in a tragedy like the one we're seeing on our screens right now.
Are you saying — and I think it's all right to go take water or food to feed your family when there's anarchy. But what about taking televisions? What about taking things that you can't even plug them in. Is that the same thing?
WATKINS: Well, if you define looting as going into someone else's turf and taking something that doesn't belong to you, you can argue that we're looting in Iraq right now.
COLMES: You're not answering my question about is it OK to take a plasma television?
WATKINS: What I'm saying is that you can't point the finger at these people that you've been calling looters and all these other things.
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