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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: mechanic on September 19, 2005, 08:14:55 AM
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....anyone of the guys who fly there now, JG54, Gunfighters, checkertails,etc,etc, decided to quit.
I must say now that i enjoy every (almost) fight in the CT beit culling noobs by their thousands or being gang raped by leather clad aces.
The CT is our little world in the large community of AH, and i wouldnt change anything for love nor money.
i dont even mind fighting storch when he makes me chase him round the map. it adds variation.
the true beauty of AcesHigh2 is that you dont have to spend hours fighting boring AI planes. every pilot fights you in a different style.
some of you smack talk, some of you stay silent, some of you hate everone and make it clear. :) but in truth it matters not.
the CT is where the best fights are in AH2, without a doubt.
I thank you all for being a part of something i enjoy so much.
Batfink
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I make you chase me in the vertical, I can't run from your nasty tempests or La's :D
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storch has gotten very good in the 109g10 with his circle climbing, my mistake is that I try to follow him in lesser allied planes ie 51 or 38
I don't fly the temp or the spit14
the CT is a fun time with just a handful of ppl on each side. I predict it still will be even after TOD is launched. Very Rare to find a fight as long or intense in MA.
to all who make it possible
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Originally posted by Eagler
the CT is a fun time with just a handful of ppl on each side. I predict it still will be even after TOD is launched. Very Rare to find a fight as long or intense in MA.
to all who make it possible
I'll second that. win, lose or put up with slash's bad moods the CT is the very best in spontaneous 1 v 1 or 2 v 2 cartoon combat. on any given day there are very skilled people on that help with attitude adjustments for the non cartoon world.
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Another thing I use it for is learning a new aircraft. Nothing will get you better in a plane you're not familar with, than going up against a bunch of good sticks. The odds of you finding a good pilot in the MA are about nill as compared to almost every run in the CT. Even if you're getting into 2-3vs1s, it causes you to get use to the veiws and push the plane. Problem is you die a lot and have to leave your ego at the door which many can't do b/c they've developed such a rivalary with others in there.
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the CT is where the best flying in AH2 happens 99% of the time.
anyone who desputes that i ask to fly CT exclusively for a month then try the MA. I assure you it can feel like shooting drones down in IL2 when you find the hordes.
every CT merge you feel alert and ready to fight your best effort from the start. like the British media we put ourselves down too much here on the board. the possitives still greatly outnumber the negatives. I hope we never lose the CT.
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Most people say they dont like the CT because of the "trash talking" I call BS on that MA has a million times more then the CT, they dont like it beacause ALL the CT regulars have a plane type they fly and they learn it and how to fly it. Most people that fly the MA come to the CT and get thier arses handed to them and they dont like it. Theyd rather go kill noobs in the MA then fly with the best in the CT. The "trash talk" is because people in the CT are some of the best sticks in AH and we dont like competition.:D
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I'll agree with the good fights, I don't know about the best sticks. Sure there are some good pilots in the CT, but there are some outstanding sticks who fly the MA and rarely if ever fly the CT. Sure there are a lot of trash talkers in the MA, which is precisely why there's no need for it in a small arena like the CT.
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i tried to get a few more in tonight. Stang and my squadmate came.
first my squadie left because he got fed up with the bad taste for you two, you know who you are.
my squaddie sindon left due too bad vibes and sportsmanship.
then stang came and you couldnt even grace him with politeness when he fought you.
he left because you forced him out and you forced him out cos he was giving you a hard fight if not beating you.
http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/film92.ahf
http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/film93.ahf
These two films show the whole sad picture drawn out over the space of an hour. you complained about ganging, and then ganged yourself, the you took to the hardcore BnZing and moaning untill everyone but me left. then you continued to fight me with all the advantage and never once showed any thought to the situation past the next sly witisism.
come on men, stop with your stupid intersqud rank competition, and start enjoying the flying and the moment.
no one cares who is ranked best.
lets all play like it seemed we wanted to at the start of this.
fly how you like just stop the over use of the rude obnoxious attitude card, please.
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I have to agree with Bear. I think that, on average, the skill level in the CT is definitely higher than that of the MA. However, I don't buy that the skill level of the very best of the CT regulars rivals that of the very best of the MA regulars.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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If those films you posted are of the fights earlier today what I'm sure you'll see is two guys setting up one guy with both alt and speed advantages along with nice little clever comments being made by you and stang and perhaps those other two players that were on in allied colors. during one fight there were three of you on me coming off of the runway. no thanks i'll pass on viewing them. but I will say that I enjoyed the fights and wished you had let me fight one of you alone even with your alt and speed advantage.
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i would agree also, there is nothing as savage as the catagory 5 MA furball.
but on the other hand the MA gives you the advantage of numbers even though the fight is even.
you will fight:
20% noobs
30% mission gamers
30% reasonable to good fighters
19% very good to ace.
1% ninja assasins
this makes survivabilty in the ma easier than when its 5 on 3 in CT. no messing around.
and in ct you will fight 5% noobs 95% very good to ace and maybe the odd nija assasin.
its not a comparison that is viable.
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ya batfink you are right about the MA and the CT. I sometimes go three or four days without a death in the MA. I can't go two minutes without multiple deaths in the CT. also I'm almost embarrraseed to ask but how would you view a film someone posted?
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just download the link, right click, 'save target as'
save it to desktop, then double click on it, the AH film viewer will open by itself.
once in there put on icons and recorded view options to make it easier to learn the basic of the viewer.
you can put it full screeen also
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Bat Im getting tried of this. We started out good earlyer then you started saying stuff to storch. I was fighting your squadie and storch was fighting you I dont know why your squadie left but I dont remember anyone saying anything to him setp for me
ing him. Then stang came on and I was heading over to fight him while you were fighting storch. You killed storch and came after me right after me and stang merged and yes you ganged and picked me. You want the film of that? Then I fought stang and some how his LA5 out turned my full flaping 109F. He left a few minutes later I would love the clip of us ganging you. If what you are talking about is stoch fighting you and me cirlcing 4-5k above watching the fight then while storch augered I was on the phone and dove in about 30secs after stoch was dead then you need to rethink what ganging is. Then storch left right after he said something, but I didnt hear because I had my headset off still on the phone. Then you uped again and I B&Zed you and hurt you pretty bad instead of turn fighting a P40E in a 109 while still on the phone. After I seen your engine was dead I broke off and RTBed. See I could have vulched you or finnished you off but I was being nice and I let you go land. After that you said something like good fight storch and I told you storch was gone you said something like I can see your flying like a weenie to. Oh btw did I say about when you were on the phone so storch waited instead of just killing you while you were afk? Oh and your the guy blabing about rank not us. How about right when I got there and you said you were ganna fight you squadie so I said Ill stay out and watch? See we could be a bunch of A holes and gang and ect. but we are trying to fly like yall want w/o picking and ganging. Then while doing that YALL start ganging and picking. So yall want us to go back to the old JG54 or you want us to fight "fair"?
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I have to agree with Bear. I think that, on average, the skill level in the CT is definitely higher than that of the MA. However, I don't buy that the skill level of the very best of the CT regulars rivals that of the very best of the MA regulars.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Well no. We arent as good as you or kappa,Mane,4ACES,etc. We do try but thats asking a bit much:D
btw, I put Grits, hub, and Superdud down as references on my application. Was that a bad thing to do?
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hehe Don't get me wrong, I think there are plenty of fine sticks in the CT. However, some players have this mistaken notion that they can move from the CT to the MA and become instant gods among men. I really doubt the truthfulness of that conjecture.
I do believe that the CT contains relatively few totally clueless new players. Thus you really don't have the luxury of the sorts of easy kills you often find on the staggeringly bad folks who run rampant in the MA. On the other hand, at the high end I doubt that the very, very best of the CT regulars contain skills unmatched by the very best of the best MA guys.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
hehe Don't get me wrong, I think there are plenty of fine sticks in the CT. However, some players have this mistaken notion that they can move from the CT to the MA and become instant gods among men. I really doubt the truthfulness of that conjecture.
I do believe that the CT contains relatively few totally clueless new players. Thus you really don't have the luxury of the sorts of easy kills you often find on the staggeringly bad folks who run rampant in the MA. On the other hand, at the high end I doubt that the very, very best of the CT regulars contain skills unmatched by the very best of the best MA guys.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Hehe, coming to the realization that everthing we do in this game doesn't warrant boasting a bigger brag than if you were best at Connect-Four on your block, is true enlightment.
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True.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
hehe Don't get me wrong, I think there are plenty of fine sticks in the CT. However, some players have this mistaken notion that they can move from the CT to the MA and become instant gods among men. I really doubt the truthfulness of that conjecture.
I do believe that the CT contains relatively few totally clueless new players. Thus you really don't have the luxury of the sorts of easy kills you often find on the staggeringly bad folks who run rampant in the MA. On the other hand, at the high end I doubt that the very, very best of the CT regulars contain skills unmatched by the very best of the best MA guys.
-- Todd/Leviathn
Pretty much sums it up for those of us with a clue.
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Originally posted by Slash27
btw, I put Grits, hub, and Superdud down as references on my application. Was that a bad thing to do?
Good move, I r TeH Sm@rt3st w00t!
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This argument has been going on and on and on and is quite stale.... The CT rules of etiquette can make it much more enjoyable especially if the numbers are low, but there's no reason to get all bent out of shape when the eye of the beholder believes someone else is breaking the rules. I think most of the CT regular understand this. IMO if you want a good 1v1 go to the DA, the CT is not a very good place to do that. As soon as the number goes above 15 the rules of etiquette seem to go out the window anyway...
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Originally posted by Larry
Bat Im getting tried of this. We started out good earlyer then you started saying stuff to storch. I was fighting your squadie and storch was fighting you I dont know why your squadie left but I dont remember anyone saying anything to him setp for me ing him. Then stang came on and I was heading over to fight him while you were fighting storch. You killed storch and came after me right after me and stang merged and yes you ganged and picked me. You want the film of that? Then I fought stang and some how his LA5 out turned my full flaping 109F. He left a few minutes later I would love the clip of us ganging you. If what you are talking about is stoch fighting you and me cirlcing 4-5k above watching the fight then while storch augered I was on the phone and dove in about 30secs after stoch was dead then you need to rethink what ganging is. Then storch left right after he said something, but I didnt hear because I had my headset off still on the phone. Then you uped again and I B&Zed you and hurt you pretty bad instead of turn fighting a P40E in a 109 while still on the phone. After I seen your engine was dead I broke off and RTBed. See I could have vulched you or finnished you off but I was being nice and I let you go land. After that you said something like good fight storch and I told you storch was gone you said something like I can see your flying like a weenie to. Oh btw did I say about when you were on the phone so storch waited instead of just killing you while you were afk? Oh and your the guy blabing about rank not us. How about right when I got there and you said you were ganna fight you squadie so I said Ill stay out and watch? See we could be a bunch of A holes and gang and ect. but we are trying to fly like yall want w/o picking and ganging. Then while doing that YALL start ganging and picking. So yall want us to go back to the old JG54 or you want us to fight "fair"?
its more a matter of disgresion and you should know this as you still practice it.
if you see two planes winging close up, and you are more than one guy you should expect co-operation, who ever denied shooting at ny given target if not a ho in a 2v2, 3vs2 or more?
you guys willstill fight co-operative when it suits you, and then whine when it doesnt.
we should all drop the MA stereotypes ;cherrypick' 'gangbang' etc. its so boring when it isnt true.
I could post many films showing this in action, and many films of everyone dogfighting en mass instead of 1 on 1s and you know that too.
most importantly, watch the film for ch200 usage, notice your own attitudes and how you come accross compared to ours. even if we think things we keep it to our teamates and ourselves.
i wont argue this out, it will only go stale.
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
hehe Don't get me wrong, I think there are plenty of fine sticks in the CT. However, some players have this mistaken notion that they can move from the CT to the MA and become instant gods among men. I really doubt the truthfulness of that conjecture.
I do believe that the CT contains relatively few totally clueless new players. Thus you really don't have the luxury of the sorts of easy kills you often find on the staggeringly bad folks who run rampant in the MA. On the other hand, at the high end I doubt that the very, very best of the CT regulars contain skills unmatched by the very best of the best MA guys.
-- Todd/Leviathn
just to clarify my statement that flying the CT for a months and then moving to MA again can make you feel like clubbing seals at times was more a reflection on the easier kills side.
i know all too well that the good and great MA sticks fight just as good and better any given day, only when you meet one you dont expect it and you might not fly as well as in the CT at first.
99.9*% fly them both anyhow so there is not so much of a distiction between the two as we might be lead to think.
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Bat I hate to say this but your an idiot I watched the films and unless your blind to I was heading to stang while you were fighting storch then you came and ganged me. YES 2v1 is a gang. Oh and I love how you blame to no dar on me that jsut plain stupid. And look at everytime we "trash talked" yall look who starts taking **** first then whines later. I really love all the atempted HOs that you tryed while fighting storch and ganging us then saying we ganed you. Take a really good look at film two and tell me that we are ganging you. So next time you want to start **** and then try to blame us for **** we didnt do think first. Maybe if you open you eyes while your watching the films youd see it.
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again, this film you quoted was intended as a fair representation of tonights ct fight, i did not claim anywhere in the text tonight that you were being terrible players, except maybe i may comment on your negative attitude when losing. tody in this film i was shooting any red icon that came into my sights, notice how at times there is the descision made to fight one on one.
i was hoing storch, i had no vision through my oil and he was ho;ing back after a long and drawn out alt fight.
you are talking about film92 i presume? watch it again and read all the c200 text. notice the very first fight is a one on one with storch and i let him ditch with no engine. notice the attitudes. nice and calm. the smack was flowing from the start but on a low and humurous level. then after stang came in and we just we're better, you guys lost heart and went sour like a piece of fruit infont of us.
there was no ganging, all fair fights, my 'cherry pick' on your 'fight' with stang was infact a well timed move and a fairly lucky snapshot that beat stang's merge as i was coming from another angle. niether of us had claimed you. storch then came up and was stangs, i stayed out. stang won. then 'the fearfull gangbang of storch's f4f' was infact storch, misreading which plane he should merge with on a 2 v 1 merge, we merely have the experience to merge so that at least one of us get on the end a lone fighter
maybe you need to watch another film or two and then edit your post before you look an idiot yourself. (sigh)
http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/P51_3vs1.ahf
this was only a few weeks ago, from my last films batch.
can dig out many more. i film ad save almost all furballs and 1 on 1s in the CT that last more than a few mins
but why bother , we all should get along and fly for fun.
watch it again i beg of you.
http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/film92.ahf
read it carefully and unbiased.
fast forward to the last 30 seconds, you say 'storch wont ever vulch' then you both procede to 2 on 1 me for goodness sake.
you are infact making a scene out of this incedent and further degrading the CT adn yourselves.
this is my last post to you in this tread because i wish to reamin on speaking terms with you at least.
abolish the rank system in the CT please.
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in that exchange when TK typed you the storch won't vultch or if my memory serves me right gang is what he wrote. i told TK anyone except him. :D meaning you of course. i gave you a short burst on one lamely pressed pass just to throw you off balance a bit. however, from now on I'll fly three sectors to gang up on you just so you know :D the other thing is we both pretty much suck at HO'n so we should quit, or at least we should quit HO'n each other and HO others that way at least 50% of the HO'rs will likely score. :D
on a personal note, when do you sleep? you seem to be on here posting films like an intardnet spielberg so much that i'm becoming curiously concerned for your welfare. :D go set some posts or something.
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i only missed those 3 hos because of oil damage, i can hit you with a clean screen :D
I like it that you little cuties are ganging up to take us down, but i dont think its fair for TK to claim that you lot never gang bang.
just play how you play and dont complain when you get beat, especially when its not a 1 on 1 fight.
no i never sleep, sometimes i go for 48 hours awake, 12 hours sleep, 8 hours work, 12 hours sleep.
creativity is a nocturnal creature, music doesnt make itself at 9am in the morning.
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I havent ganged anyone in about 2weeks sept for thats Jabo mission that we did last week and grits got in our way. The gang when storch made one pass that you are talkign about really dosent count because you were pretty much dead before he uped. I put 3 20mms in your tail before he got off the ground I was trying to land that last hit and I did I didnt need storchs help. I would have let you RTB but storch wouldent have let you get your gears down so I desided to finnish you off.
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^^^^ if you believe yourself here, then you need to:
A) watch film92 (again) read the text, and laugh at your own mistaken words.
B) stop making the past up as it suits you on the boards ;)
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Hey CT,
First let me ask how do I put a symbol under my name on this post?(noob to posts)
Mechanic, your right about CT. It is the best place to fly ( in my opinion) the sticks are usually very good and most of the time it is 1v1 (the best test of a pilots skill). Now I have been ganged many times (uh ALOT of times lol my score doesn't reflect my skill hehheh).
The smack talk is in ma too but you don't see it as often because there is so much talk going on. It's very personal in CT so any talk is noticed.
I wish more people would fly there different times of the day. I get accused of porking, but I fly all times of the day with nothing to do but bomb for no reason lololol, hoping someone will show up, sometimes I just put it on auto and leave heheheh, when I get back my buffs are 25K being chased by a 262 lol.
Anyway enuff of my history, don't let the smack ruin your good time, It's all fun !!!!