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Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 08:47:05 AM
My son is playing his first year of Jr. football. Here is an excellent run for a huge 17 yard gain: (Warning: 2mb gif format, series of photos)
He cuts inside, the next guy that tries to tackle him he does a spin move, they finally get him after a huge gain.

http://home.comcast.net/~ripsnort60/Good_Run.gif

Here is his first touch down ever!
http://home.comcast.net/~ripsnort60/gggif.gif
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on September 19, 2005, 08:56:49 AM
Uh.. I thought you're only supposed to torture house guests with old home videos.. :confused:

:D

Glad to see you've managed to bring up a decent child. Too many people these days can't. WTG Rip!
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 09:00:35 AM
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Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Uh.. I thought you're only supposed to torture house guests with old home videos.. :confused:

:D

Glad to see you've managed to bring up a decent child. Too many people these days can't. WTG Rip!


I can't say enough about the coaches, they continously stress rule number 5.."Never quit", and they preach to the kids about this in football, in school work, and in their lives when they mature. Every practice they discuss "never quit". Hats off to an excellent coaching staff.

Oh, and we won 31-0 on Sat. :)
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Gunslinger on September 19, 2005, 10:33:26 AM
WTG rip.  Cool photos too.  I can't wait till Gunslinger Jr can play sports.  His mom wants him to play soccer but I decided to quote my father "no son of mine is playing commie-ball"
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 10:38:57 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
WTG rip.  Cool photos too.  I can't wait till Gunslinger Jr can play sports.  His mom wants him to play soccer but I decided to quote my father "no son of mine is playing commie-ball"


'Luck on that Gun. Thanks for the kind words.

You have to guage your son as he matures,. My oldest is the typical Alpha Male type. He begged and begged to play tackle footbally for a year, we finally let him.  The youngest doesn't like team sports as much, he's played two years of soccer and baseball, but he's not interested in baseball anymore. So, we won't force him to play. He still likes soccer but he's not the Alpha Male personality that his bigger brother is...he is into "individual sports" like swimming.
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Simaril on September 19, 2005, 10:56:19 AM
One real advantage of "commie ball" -- physical size is much less important than it is for other primary US sports, like footabll and basketball. Skill can be developed by hard work even without having been blessed with statistical outlier size, which lets smaller kids have an opportunity to excel.

Plus, around here, teh soccer players have this alternalive music look that is much cooler than the typical jock persona..



And Rip -- WTG on the run! Can imagine the way it felt to watch it happen from the stands! :aok
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Gunslinger on September 19, 2005, 11:24:04 AM
also that's cool that the coaches "mentor" as much.  Alot of people do not realize how much influence a sports caoch can have on a youngin early on in life.  To this day I regrett quiting football.  My freshman year I broke my collar bone and dislocated my shoulder all in one hit.  The coach and the trainer wanted to set it on the field and I wasn't having that.  Left the game, walked home and asked my mom to drive me to the hospital.

She had this utter look of horror and confusion on her face that I will never forget.

Next day I turned in my pads and was done with sports all together.  No football, wrestling, or track.  My senior year I contemplated going out for cross country to help train for bootcamp.

EDIT:

I don't really have a problem with soccer.  My dad hated the sport because they took up our practice fields all the time in peewee league.
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 11:27:18 AM
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Originally posted by Simaril

And Rip -- WTG on the run! Can imagine the way it felt to watch it happen from the stands! :aok


Thank you! And I have the privelege of being on the sidelines with the kids, thus my close up shots.  Only players, coaches and camera man allowed on the sidelines. :D

Here is a direct link from our webpage to all the shots I've taken from Training camp in August all the way through to Sat. Its updated weekly.
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=8238651&uid=2726312&members=1
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 11:29:23 AM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger

EDIT:

I don't really have a problem with soccer.  My dad hated the sport because they took up our practice fields all the time in peewee league.


OMG! LOL! That happens to us ALL the time! Freaking Soccer heads get priority over most of the practice field, we get alittle tiny piece of the field. Funny part is...they hardly even USE the whole field!  11 of them and 45 of us...go figure..:mad:
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Nilsen on September 19, 2005, 11:30:29 AM
Good stuff Ripsnort, congrats. :)
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 11:46:03 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Good stuff Ripsnort, congrats. :)

Thanks Nilsen. :) Gordon only touched the ball 4 times when playing offense. (he's a second string player), but....those 4 carry's gave him 34 yards and a TD,  a 8.74 avg yard per carry. Something tells me he'll be a starter next year. ;)

He also sacked the QB on a Safety Blitz.
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Iceman24 on September 19, 2005, 01:05:11 PM
back in h-school my coaches made me play commie ball lol ( soccer ) just to help get better footwork, omg i hated it. I was a 6'5 290lb defensive end and offensive takcle and I had to go run around and kick a soccer ball with a bunch of smaller faster guys lol it sucked... And when track & field season came around I threw shotput and discuss but always had to work out with the runners, Mon-wed-friday i had to work out with the milers and on tues and thursday the 100 yard sprinters. I thought they were punishing me but I would have never been able to play college ball at UT without it, it made me so much quicker and balanced I would recommend it to anyone, even if you don't like the sport.
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Curval on September 19, 2005, 01:10:09 PM
Great pics Rip!:aok

The kids on the opposing team need to learn how to tackle though...maybe they should take up rugby.  Too much trying to grab shoulders and bring them down (at least in the top series of pics).  That is hard, particularly if you aren't the biggest guy around.   Grab both legs and hold on tight and there is NO WAY the runner is going anywhere.
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Iceman24 on September 19, 2005, 02:10:59 PM
hitting and tacking power in football is all about quickness and leverage... If you are faster and lower than the other guy at the point of impact, he's the 1 that will be hurting. Velocity X weight = Force of Impact... But what this formula forgets is leverage, if 1 player hits another with perfect form, head up, rear down, and sticks his face mask in the others chest, the guy lower will win 90% of the time. Unless the other player is just way bigger than the other, like twice the size... I used to coach a peewee team a year ago and I went into it with the mindset to just let these kids have fun and just teach em the basics, proper form and hitting stances, never made em run allot of sprints or anything, the kids just loved it, they loved coming to practice. I never had a problem with any parents wanting there kids to play more or less, it was just a really good time for everyone involved. We went 7-3 but like I said I wasn't concerned with winning and losing, but some of these other teams had coaches screaming at there kids, cussing at them at times, you could just see that those kids were not having any fun at all. I think thats really sad because thats when football is the purest and those kids will grow up with a negative impression of football and most likely not play Jr. or high school ball. Once the kids  get into highchool you can start making a huge deal about winning, but other than that just let em have fun. The worst thing is when a parent trys to play through there kid, luckily I didn't have any of those on my team
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Iceman24 on September 19, 2005, 02:23:20 PM
tell your son I said nice moves... I see a nice Walter Peyton stiff arm on #35 and then a great Barry Sanders spinorama. Tell him to keep that arm in until the defender gets close then stiff arm, especially with that nice forearm pad your son has on he should be able to put a nice punch/stiffarm on a defender and not hurt his hand. Tell him to keep it tucked until the last second then try and punch the other player in the head. Its a running backs best friend and unless the defender sees it coming is caught completely off gaurd and off balance. And always tell him to run low or as low as he can without falling over, thats how running backs put punishment on defenders, they run into them real fast/hard, while staying lower... it also makes the back allot harder to tackle because all of his momentum is moving foraward. Look at any good running back in the NFL... Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Jim Brown... They all ran real low to the ground, kept the center of gravity real low and it made em real hard to tackle, thats how they seemingly bounce off of defenders, there actually hitting them really hard and knockin the defenders back and they can't tackle them... Thats the only thing I would have him work on, running way high like that is just asking for a kill shot by a defender, may be a lil faster runnin like that, but just asking for a shot in the chest/stomach
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 02:53:13 PM
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Originally posted by Iceman24
tell your son I said nice moves... I see a nice Walter Peyton stiff arm on #35 and then a great Barry Sanders spinorama. Tell him to keep that arm in until the defender gets close then stiff arm, especially with that nice forearm pad your son has on he should be able to put a nice punch/stiffarm on a defender and not hurt his hand. Tell him to keep it tucked until the last second then try and punch the other player in the head. Its a running backs best friend and unless the defender sees it coming is caught completely off gaurd and off balance. And always tell him to run low or as low as he can without falling over, thats how running backs put punishment on defenders, they run into them real fast/hard, while staying lower... it also makes the back allot harder to tackle because all of his momentum is moving foraward. Look at any good running back in the NFL... Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, Jim Brown... They all ran real low to the ground, kept the center of gravity real low and it made em real hard to tackle, thats how they seemingly bounce off of defenders, there actually hitting them really hard and knockin the defenders back and they can't tackle them... Thats the only thing I would have him work on, running way high like that is just asking for a kill shot by a defender, may be a lil faster runnin like that, but just asking for a shot in the chest/stomach


Trust me, you've not posted anything I and the coaches haven't already rehearsed him in...after many pictures and movies of practice since August, he's tired of hearing me tell him the things you mention above.  He'll probably get his clock cleaned "standing tall" one day, then he'll understand the need to get low. :)  

Thanks...Its very refreshing to hear the same advice from another source!
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 02:59:41 PM
I just wanted to add, that when he saw this series of pics (we again discussed his need to get low) the first thing he noticed is "I should have switched the ball to the outside hand". :aok He's learning!  He just needs to put thought into action. Not bad for a 1st year player.:aok
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Iceman24 on September 19, 2005, 03:27:39 PM
no definately not bad at all, he's already showing instincts that are great such as that stiff arm and spin, he never thought about doin them, he just did it... and you just can't coach that stuff. Once he gets a few games under his belt, he'll start to lower them shoulders and become a train, he'll figure it all out, right now as long as he's having fun thats all that matters. he has allot of football yet to play and allot more coaches, some will be FOS and the others great. Fun is the name of the game now.
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 19, 2005, 03:31:03 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
WTG rip.  Cool photos too.  I can't wait till Gunslinger Jr can play sports.  His mom wants him to play soccer but I decided to quote my father "no son of mine is playing commie-ball"


Just point out to her the fact that injury for injury there your kids more likely to get hurt and more injuries occur in soccer then in Tackle football.
And in football the kids are padded or otherwise protected almost form head to toe.
shin pads thiegh pads,hip pads,cup,flack jacket (rib protector)
then you can get the collar to protect the neck, Shoulder pads,
Helmet for the noggen and mouth peice.

Add to that Force = mass X acceleration.

Well these kids arent that big (mass)  arent really all that
fast (acceleration) so they really dont generate all that much force

LOL My sister in law wouldnt let my nephew play football cause she was afraid he'd get hurt so she let him play soccer figuring it would be safer where  over a two year period he  managed to break his ankle,his nose, and his arm.

If she still is resistant well then sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do and just tell her "this is the way its gonna be" and stand your ground and dont give in.

she'll get over it
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 03:33:27 PM
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Originally posted by Iceman24
no definately not bad at all, he's already showing instincts that are great such as that stiff arm and spin, he never thought about doin them, he just did it... and you just can't coach that stuff. Once he gets a few games under his belt, he'll start to lower them shoulders and become a train, he'll figure it all out, right now as long as he's having fun thats all that matters. he has allot of football yet to play and allot more coaches, some will be FOS and the others great. Fun is the name of the game now.


Absolutely. Fun is what it is all about, but its amazing how these kids just LOVE structured discipline that comes with football. They (the coaches) are hard on the kids, but they NEVER put them down in a humiliating fashion. Sure, they tough on the kids, no talking during practice, make them do push ups when they go offsides during practice, the occasional outbursts from coaches yelling at the kids to go 100%, not 50%... etc., but out of 45 players, not ONE had dropped out of the program.  Let me give you an idea of how good the coaches are in Puyallup....we were 1.5 hours early for sign up this past spring, and we were the 39th player taken....over 300 kids showed up for 45 positions!  Of course being the state Jr. football champion (for their weight class) the year before helps too ;)

My kid is borderline obsessed with the sport now...kinda scarey, really...:confused:
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 19, 2005, 03:46:43 PM
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Originally posted by Simaril
One real advantage of "commie ball" -- physical size is much less important than it is for other primary US sports, like footabll and basketball. Skill can be developed by hard work even without having been blessed with statistical outlier size, which lets smaller kids have an opportunity to excel.

Plus, around here, teh soccer players have this alternalive music look that is much cooler than the typical jock persona..



And Rip -- WTG on the run! Can imagine the way it felt to watch it happen from the stands! :aok


Speaking for Football while size does have its advantages. Heart, and/or talent plays a big part in it too and can often negate size.

One of the best players I coached was also the smallest player on the team. How good? Good enough to be on the starting D-line

By contrast one of the worst players I ever coached was also the biggest kid I ever coached.
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Iceman24 on September 19, 2005, 03:46:51 PM
My kid is borderline obsessed with the sport now...kinda scarey, really...

ahh another 1 hopelessly addicted lol thers worse things than football... Honestly if I wouldn't have played ball I would have been a hoodlum. Thats the only thing that really kept me in check. The fear of a coach finding out I skipped class or something and making me run until I puked kept me out of allot of trouble. It also instills allot of pride in younger kids, and gives them allot of character developement... Its like they say football isn't a sport its a way of life ;)

Good luck this season, keep us posted on how ya'll are doin
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Iceman24 on September 19, 2005, 03:51:48 PM
look at emmitt smith, 1 of the smallest players to play the game, also the #1 running back in its history... I'm a true believer in heart makes the player, not the size or speed. Randy Moss may be the most athletic reciever to play the game, but he will never be 1/2 the player Jerry Rice was because he has no heart, he's there for a paycheck... Lavar Arrington may be the biggest fastest linebacker to play in the NFL but he won't be 1/2 the linebacker LT or Ray Lewis because he doesn't have the heart
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 19, 2005, 03:57:03 PM
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Originally posted by Iceman24
hitting and tacking power in football is all about quickness and leverage... If you are faster and lower than the other guy at the point of impact, he's the 1 that will be hurting. Velocity X weight = Force of Impact... But what this formula forgets is leverage, if 1 player hits another with perfect form, head up, rear down, and sticks his face mask in the others chest, the guy lower will win 90% of the time. Unless the other player is just way bigger than the other, like twice the size... I used to coach a peewee team a year ago and I went into it with the mindset to just let these kids have fun and just teach em the basics, proper form and hitting stances, never made em run allot of sprints or anything, the kids just loved it, they loved coming to practice. I never had a problem with any parents wanting there kids to play more or less, it was just a really good time for everyone involved. We went 7-3 but like I said I wasn't concerned with winning and losing, but some of these other teams had coaches screaming at there kids, cussing at them at times, you could just see that those kids were not having any fun at all. I think thats really sad because thats when football is the purest and those kids will grow up with a negative impression of football and most likely not play Jr. or high school ball. Once the kids  get into highchool you can start making a huge deal about winning, but other than that just let em have fun. The worst thing is when a parent trys to play through there kid, luckily I didn't have any of those on my team


dead on balls accurate 100%

I used to like to stress agility footwork drills and proper technique.
Really pays off gametime when the kids arent tripping over their own feet LOL

Had one long time ref tell me after a game I had one of the best tackling defences he'd ever seen which I took as quite a compliment

One night a week for one hour we used to let them have their own mini game. Just let em choose up their own sides and call all the plays. The coaches would ref but othewise pretty much stay out of it.
Kids loved it. And its amazing just how much they grasp
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 19, 2005, 03:59:30 PM
BTW Rip.

WTG on the kids progression. Glad to see hes doing so well.

Ment to say that in first post but got carried away in my thoughts LOL
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 04:03:13 PM
Thanks Iceman/ Dred.

Thanks for sharing your stories guys. I never played football and its all "new" to me, I like to hear your perspectives as you remember it.  All I know is Iceman is spot on, sports in general usually keep a kid on the straight and narrow.  On that note, I now use "Football Practice and games" as leverage to get as many reading minutes from my oldest as we want! :D  If he's hesitant about homework, I just have to begin to pronounce "football" and he's at the desk cracking away at the homework and reading. :D
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Iceman24 on September 19, 2005, 04:22:40 PM
I used to like to stress agility footwork drills and proper technique.


CC thats a fundamental if you ask me, thats why in highschool my coached made me work out with the soccer players, then in the offseason work out with the track guys... i hated it, but my junior and senior season it really paid off, and I got a nice schollarship for it :)  free college is great, and when you play ball at college, everything is free lol

Rip football used to be and I guess still is my life, I played since I was 5 all the way to college at univerity of texas, played for 2 years there and busted my knee up for about the 5th time lol had to have a total reconstuct twice, basically had to learn to walk twice lol. But even after that I couldn't stay away. I started playing minor league ball and that was a blast until 2 seasons ago, i was playing left tackle on offense and the RB got tackled into the back and outside of my knee again and I tore it up again, and at that point I said that's it no more lol I'm obviously not gonna go pro, might as well put that business degree to good use lol But I can't watch a game on tv without at least thinking about going back and playing again, its the most fun I know how to have with clothes on anyways lol
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 04:37:24 PM
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Originally posted by Iceman24
I used to like to stress agility footwork drills and proper technique.


CC thats a fundamental if you ask me, thats why in highschool my coached made me work out with the soccer players, then in the offseason work out with the track guys... i hated it, but my junior and senior season it really paid off, and I got a nice schollarship for it :)  free college is great, and when you play ball at college, everything is free lol

Rip football used to be and I guess still is my life, I played since I was 5 all the way to college at univerity of texas, played for 2 years there and busted my knee up for about the 5th time lol had to have a total reconstuct twice, basically had to learn to walk twice lol. But even after that I couldn't stay away. I started playing minor league ball and that was a blast until 2 seasons ago, i was playing left tackle on offense and the RB got tackled into the back and outside of my knee again and I tore it up again, and at that point I said that's it no more lol I'm obviously not gonna go pro, might as well put that business degree to good use lol But I can't watch a game on tv without at least thinking about going back and playing again, its the most fun I know how to have with clothes on anyways lol


Sounds like alot of good memories Iceman!  Good on you!  You should look into teaching others what you've enjoyed so much for so many years, you sound as though you'd make a good coach.
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: eagl on September 19, 2005, 04:47:42 PM
Rip,

How come all dem helmets gots questionmarks on teh sides?

:)
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 19, 2005, 05:01:48 PM
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Originally posted by eagl
Rip,

How come all dem helmets gots questionmarks on teh sides?

:)


LOL! I'd never viewed it that way, but now that yo mention it! :rofl

Maybe we could be called "Who's your Daddy?" team? :p
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Nwbie on September 19, 2005, 10:39:34 PM
Hey Rip,

I sat here reading this and checking out the vids.. looks like a natural...hold on, After reaching the ripe age of 49 I now need to bend back my fingers, somehow having the cartilage ripped in all the knuckles of my left hand from a poor arm tackle, with hand caught in the face mask has affected my typing ability, I sit here and oh wait...i need to straighten out my left leg and switch positions with my right leg, seems having both my acl's torn and my right calf muscle ripped in my senior year of college, has affected my ability to sit still for more than three minutes at a time..but anyway...oops had to crack my neck, have to do that probably 20 or 30 times a day, seems like playing linebacker since 6th grade has compressed some of my neck joints and I can only stretch them by snapping my head around in a circular motion til I get a nice load cracking sound, and the neat thing is, i do it without thinking alot, and it really grosses the ladies in the office out..get a lot of ..eeewwwss ....what the hell was that? comments...then I proceed to crack my elbow for chuckles...the one with the floating ligament that the doctor told me eventually will most likely either disentegrate or even better, get locked into the joint causing excruciating pain..so i got that to look forward too.... cuz it hasn't disentegrated yet lol... was probably not a good idea to tackle a guy as I was getting blocked by throwing out my left arm and cltoheslining the poor bastard..but hey - it was instinct... anyway...the funny thing was...you had me back in 6th grade there... the excitement.. everything lol
btw
My boys golf and are musicians, but I bet their kids play football lol

NwBie
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 20, 2005, 07:25:40 AM
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Originally posted by Nwbie
Hey Rip,

I sat here reading this and checking out the vids.. looks like a natural...hold on, After reaching the ripe age of 49 I now need to bend back my fingers, somehow having the cartilage ripped in all the knuckles of my left hand from a poor arm tackle, with hand caught in the face mask has affected my typing ability, I sit here and oh wait...i need to straighten out my left leg and switch positions with my right leg, seems having both my acl's torn and my right calf muscle ripped in my senior year of college, has affected my ability to sit still for more than three minutes at a time..but anyway...oops had to crack my neck, have to do that probably 20 or 30 times a day, seems like playing linebacker since 6th grade has compressed some of my neck joints and I can only stretch them by snapping my head around in a circular motion til I get a nice load cracking sound, and the neat thing is, i do it without thinking alot, and it really grosses the ladies in the office out..get a lot of ..eeewwwss ....what the hell was that? comments...then I proceed to crack my elbow for chuckles...the one with the floating ligament that the doctor told me eventually will most likely either disentegrate or even better, get locked into the joint causing excruciating pain..so i got that to look forward too.... cuz it hasn't disentegrated yet lol... was probably not a good idea to tackle a guy as I was getting blocked by throwing out my left arm and cltoheslining the poor bastard..but hey - it was instinct... anyway...the funny thing was...you had me back in 6th grade there... the excitement.. everything lol
btw
My boys golf and are musicians, but I bet their kids play football lol

NwBie
:confused: :eek: :huh :lol
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Curval on September 20, 2005, 08:32:37 AM
No need to worry Rip.  Nwbie obviously was playing football not American football, according to Drediock:

"Just point out to her the fact that injury for injury there your kids more likely to get hurt and more injuries occur in soccer then in Tackle football.
And in football the kids are padded or otherwise protected almost form head to toe.
shin pads thiegh pads,hip pads,cup,flack jacket (rib protector)
then you can get the collar to protect the neck, Shoulder pads,
Helmet for the noggen and mouth peice."

Soccer is DANGEROUS!


:aok
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: midnight Target on September 20, 2005, 08:37:06 AM
I'm sorry, but did that furiner Curval actually give tackling advice in this thread? Or was I imagining things?
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Eagler on September 20, 2005, 08:37:57 AM
encourage swimming to the younger one

may not get a billion $$ contract but can get him through college while providing strength and flexibility at the same time with minimum possiblity of injury
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Curval on September 20, 2005, 08:51:37 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm sorry, but did that furiner Curval actually give tackling advice in this thread? Or was I imagining things?


I played Rugby for years in the UK mate.  As I was never the biggest guy on the field tackling meant grabbing legs and holding on for dear life.  Tackling high the way I see that team attempting in the first series was a sure-fire way to get an elbow to the chops and the inability to bring the guy down.  It would also draw the ire of our coaches.
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Ripsnort on September 20, 2005, 09:14:27 AM
Aye, Curval, one of the biggest problems with kids this age is getting them to hit low...they believe that just contact alone will bring another player down....it doesn't, and they learn, slowly, but they learn.

What I didn't capture on camera (lens change, dammit!) was the first play on defense that my son was involved in...the Defensive Coordinator, knowing full well that my son has knocked out two team mates in practice over the last 6 weeks, sent Gordon (Known as "The Terminator" by his team mates) on a safety blitz.He made it through the line, and he hit high (arrrgh!) However, he hit the QB so hard in the backfield that you could hear the helmut to helmut contact in the stands 50 yards away.  My wife was sitting in the stands and the parents around her were asking "Whos kid was THAT?!?". Needless to say she couldn't shut up about that hit all this week. :)
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: FiLtH on September 20, 2005, 09:19:03 AM
I played soccer in Jr High. I was small back then. I didnt play sports in HS though. I got in with a party crowd and wasted time alot getting high and stuff. Although Id hate to relive my teen years, if I had the chance, thats one thing I would have changed.
Title: Proud father moment
Post by: Simaril on September 20, 2005, 05:08:48 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Just point out to her the fact that injury for injury there your kids more likely to get hurt and more injuries occur in soccer then in Tackle football.....

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Gotta call you on this one, Dred.  American  football is a great game and great tradition, but it is far more dangerous than soccer.

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From University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Sports Medicine
Soccer is a great way to build endurance, improve speed, and promote fitness, all while enjoying the camaraderie of a team sport. And according to experts, soccer is a relatively safe activity, with an injury rate of one-fifth to one-half of that in American football.  


http://sportsmedicine.upmc.com/MySportSoccerTop5.htm


Football's pads are there BECAUSE of the increased risk. The fundamental difference is simple -- in football, the game requires high speed impact at often non-physiologic angles. (Hear those ACLs pop!) In soccer, contact is supposed to be incidental, as a byproduct of pursuing or striking the ball. Playing the opponent rather than the ball gets you a penalty, and coming from behind can get you thrown off the field. Of course, injuries happen in soccer -- but the overall rate, and the overall rate of critical injuries, is lower than football.
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Post by: DREDIOCK on September 20, 2005, 06:54:09 PM
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Originally posted by Simaril
Gotta call you on this one, Dred.  American  football is a great game and great tradition, but it is far more dangerous than soccer.

 

http://sportsmedicine.upmc.com/MySportSoccerTop5.htm


Football's pads are there BECAUSE of the increased risk. The fundamental difference is simple -- in football, the game requires high speed impact at often non-physiologic angles. (Hear those ACLs pop!) In soccer, contact is supposed to be incidental, as a byproduct of pursuing or striking the ball. Playing the opponent rather than the ball gets you a penalty, and coming from behind can get you thrown off the field. Of course, injuries happen in soccer -- but the overall rate, and the overall rate of critical injuries, is lower than football.


Could be true just not what I have been lead to beleive or what I have personaly witnessed.
Nephew case in point.

But untill you enter highschool and above your typically not going against very fast people or haveing people at a great disproportion to one another size  and maturity wise.

I've seen very few serious injuries at the lower (pop warner) levels. Actually Ive only seen one (broken leg) but that was in a pilup that just just as easily happened in Soccer.

The vast majority of injuries Ive seen football wise have been sprains (mostly mind) and bruises, though my son broke his fingertip by smacking it on someones helmet in practice.

If the game is taught correctly, and played as its taught. Football can be a very safe sport.
Typically the injuries I've seen usually come from using improper tehcnique

I have however seen kids with broken legs,ankles,noses and one kid that needed oral surgery from playing soccer.

Now on a national level you may be entirely correct. As I said that however is not what I have been lead to beleive and not what I have seen through personal experiance
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Post by: Sixpence on September 20, 2005, 10:50:25 PM
Now that is cool. Rip, I have comcast, can I host something like that?
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Post by: Ripsnort on September 20, 2005, 11:36:15 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Now that is cool. Rip, I have comcast, can I host something like that?

Yes. Just upload it to your online storage.  I used Unfreez (freeware) to make the gif, the first is about 12 frames I believe, and the 2nd is 10 frames.
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Post by: Iceman24 on September 21, 2005, 09:31:22 AM
I for 1 believe that in youth sports, baseball is probably the most dangerous for a child. I always played football but my little bro, kind of like Rips other son really wasn't into sports, he played baseball a few years but never really got into it. I remember a bunch of games that kids got hit in the face with pichtes, or pitches were hit back into the pitcher's face or chest, and for a young kid that is serious blow because there bones and muscles haven't developed fully. If I remember correctly a few kids have actually died as a result of being hit in the chest area. I think in youth sports the risk is always there in football and soccer, football most likely being more injury prone than soccer, but you know it also toughens em up gets em ready for the outside world when they get older, especially running backs lol. Because what is life really, dodging tackles and being and actually taking some hits, but no matter what you get back up again and finish the game.... OTH if I had it to do over again I would definately play golf instead of football. I remember suiting up 105 degrees outside, muggy as can be, getting ready to start afternoon practice and watching the golfers walk past in the khaki shorts and t-shirts with 9 irons in there hands gettin ready to go play 9 holes. I now realize that those kids were way smarter than me :)... All the actors and athletes want to be golfers but you never see any golfers that want to be athletes or actors lol
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Post by: SaburoS on September 21, 2005, 12:04:13 PM
Rip,
AWESOME!
Your kid's got some moves. As long as he stays motivated (looks like he found 'his' sport, and stays (major) injury free), his college career will be free.  :)

If you don't have one, time to invest in a video camera as well.

WTG!
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Post by: Ripsnort on September 21, 2005, 12:10:00 PM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Rip,
AWESOME!
Your kid's got some moves. As long as he stays motivated (looks like he found 'his' sport, and stays (major) injury free), his college career will be free.  :)

If you don't have one, time to invest in a video camera as well.

WTG!


Thank you! I do have a Digicam, but I found still photography can capture a moment in time that tells a much larger story than video. Video editting can be a very long process as well.  I do mix some video in with the "still picture movies" that I make, but I don't do much of it anymore.

His college education is already paid for whether or not he gets a scholarship.:cool:  If he does get a scholarship, he's going to have one nice hefty down payment for a house!(granted 1929 doesn't re-occur in the stock market by then!)
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Post by: Iceman24 on September 21, 2005, 12:42:27 PM
i wish my parents would have saved for my college lol, I wouldn't have had to work at a bar after practice and offeasons all night lol now that I think about it, that was the funnest time I ever had. Every chick in the world hung out there because all the teams ate / drank there... wish i could invent a time machine lol
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Post by: SaburoS on September 21, 2005, 04:35:33 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Thank you! I do have a Digicam, but I found still photography can capture a moment in time that tells a much larger story than video. Video editting can be a very long process as well.  I do mix some video in with the "still picture movies" that I make, but I don't do much of it anymore.

His college education is already paid for whether or not he gets a scholarship.:cool:  If he does get a scholarship, he's going to have one nice hefty down payment for a house!(granted 1929 doesn't re-occur in the stock market by then!)


The new ones are incredible. There's a new Panasonic ~$3k that's professional quality.
A friend of mine was telling me about it.
"Volunteer" your wife to be the videographer :D
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Post by: Ripsnort on September 21, 2005, 05:36:17 PM
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Originally posted by SaburoS
The new ones are incredible. There's a new Panasonic ~$3k that's professional quality.
A friend of mine was telling me about it.
"Volunteer" your wife to be the videographer :D

I hear they record on DVD directly now! That might get me back into that market....